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Darkfall: Unholy Wars

Darkfall: Unholy Wars 

General Discussion  » Keep Thinkg I Would Not Like This Game But So Tempted To Try It, Help?

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OP  10/26/13 5:48:28 PM#1

I originally made this thread and because of peoples replies, it made me not wanna buy this game. As I read through the threads I read about a dedicated group of haters of DF:UW so maybe some of those people were replying to me.


I have always wanted a fantasy mmo with gameplay like Skyrim and this game is the closest to that. ESO would be closer but it has all world pvp restricted to cyrodiil and you can't even see enemies when you are in enemy faction zones so I will probably never play ESO because of this.


I enjoy PVE but I prefer PVP, I am looking for huge 100+ battles, and lots of great exploration and huge cities to conquer and explore, does this game have all this?

I also prefer playing in a first person view yet 99% of gameplay videos I see are all 3rd person, does 3rd person view give more of an advantage or something? Like increased field of view.

I also hope the population is high and has at least 1000-5000 people online 24/7 on the NA server.


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10/26/13 6:03:40 PM#2

If it's one thing this site has it's a dedicated group of haters.

If you think you'll like it, best way to find out is play it. You'll never really know until you do.


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10/26/13 6:13:57 PM#3

It has some of the things you want and doesn't have some others.


Exploration/conquering cities: HELL YES! I love sieges in DFUW. I love the politics and personal history involved in different cities around the map. 


PVP: It's skill-based, which is awesome. It's basically the only free aim, skill-based mmorpg  that I can think of.


However, it has faults. There are NOT a ton of people playing. It's not going to be teeming with life. It's not as bad as people make out, but if you're looking for a super populated world, this isn't it. That's at least partly by design. If the world were crowded, you'd never be able to get anything done. Terrain matters. Sneaking up on enemies and ambushing them is an actual thing in this game. If it were just a mash of a bunch of people, that wouldn't be the case. It's more like how you'd expect "real life" to be. 


Also, as of a couple of months ago, it was somewhat buggy. The UI and mechanics takes some getting used to. I never minded that kind of thing in games, but you might.


It is definitely a really good game if it's your cup of tea. You should definitely at least try it. However, if you DO end up trying it, make sure you muscle through the first week or so because it's VERY hard to get into. It's a rough world to survive in so it may turn you off at first.



EDIT: Yes the community is awful. A lot of bitter Darkfall 1 vets who don't like the changes they've made to the game.


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10/26/13 6:26:29 PM#4

It sounds like the game for you. I played at launch and for about 2 months after, The game was thrilling!

It had bugs and a few problems but the whole full loot pvp was just great.


I'm not sure what the game is like atm neither do I know what the population is.


The reason I stopped playing was just because I didn't have the time to play and be able to compete, People had more prowess in a week than I had in 2 months. Give it a shot if you like Skyrim combat.

P.S I highly recommend Macros, In fact they are a must.


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10/26/13 6:30:53 PM#5
Resist the urge! Macros are definitely not a must. I had never played DF1 but was still probably in roughly the 95th percentile of players in DFUW and I never used a single macro. There's just no need.

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10/26/13 11:59:01 PM#6

Save your money. The combat is nothing like Skyrim, and the population is so bad that you see posts like this:


That's just one of many threads resulting from the low population. Many of the others get deleted by their moderators.


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10/27/13 12:20:27 AM#7
DF is a collection of great ideas. 

There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein


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10/27/13 12:34:25 AM#8
Originally posted by Loktofeit
DF is a collection of great ideas. 

Great ideas, but terrible realization.


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10/27/13 10:36:36 AM#9

Whats the point of spending the money to find soon out that the game fail ?

The vast majority of the players who waited for many years on DF and played DF1 and this abnormity called DF:UW stoped to play. the chances you will like it is minimal.


If you like FPS, play a excelent shoter.

If you like MMORPG's there are lots of good MMORPG's with many good features  this one is mediocre at best missing vital features.

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10/27/13 1:49:03 PM#10

Please point me in the direction of another giant seamless persistant world, with full loot pvp, and player city sieging that is on the market and better than Darkfall:UW today.


Otherwise, I will continue playing Darkfall and enjoying it.



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10/27/13 2:18:24 PM#11
Thought along the same lines as the op, bought it and regretted it.  Simply put its missing things.   It has potential but like so many games it falls short.

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OP  10/27/13 3:18:17 PM#12
Well how is the population? Would those of you have it agree that from 8pm-2 am Eastern time there would be about 1000-5000 online?

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10/27/13 3:20:59 PM#13
Originally posted by Macrinus101
Well how is the population? Would those of you have it agree that from 8pm-2 am Eastern time there would be about 1000-5000 online?

Feels much less than 1000. I don't have raw numbers so I can't give an exact estimate on population other than how it looks and feels to me (IMO). I can ride around and not see a single player.

Originally posted by salsa41
are you have problem ?


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OP  10/27/13 3:21:44 PM#14
Originally posted by sumdumguy1
Thought along the same lines as the op, bought it and regretted it.  Simply put its missing things.   It has potential but like so many games it falls short.


Thanks, we will have to wait until 2016 for the next big open world sandbox full loot pvp mmo. Embers of Caerus will probably be a lot more successful than this game since it has a higher budget and was crowd funded, it will also probably be free to play.

I will probably not buy DK:UW though but still, playing this MMO as a Warrior with a first person view would really satisfy me. I still think I should try it but it might end up being a waste of money. I doubt I could convince anyone to let me use their account, there would be no risk anyway since you probably have all your account recovery options, I would not try to change anything anyway. I would just start a new character and play it.

Would anyone be willing to not play for 2 weeks and let me use their account?


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10/27/13 3:26:09 PM#15

shroud of the avatar is sand box open world pvp

45$ and no sub. alpha releasing end of the year.


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10/27/13 4:16:01 PM#16
Op, the game is $40, its nothing compared to buying a ps4 or even a new car. If your worried about wasting $40 on a game that sounds ECACTLY what you want then sorry you should stick to f2p.

Darkfall is an amazing game and I love playing it and have been since day 1. I highly recommend it to friends

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OP  10/27/13 4:41:25 PM#17
I have the money to buy it, I just don't like wasting money. It would be more than 40$ since I need to Sub so it would be 55$. I might buy it today. I like a MMO with good populations though and people say it does feel like there are less than 1000 in the game world at anyone time. Still, DF:UW game world is larger than most MMO's on the market so maybe there really is more people online, they are just spread throughout the world more. I really hope there at at least 700-2000 people online 24/7.


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10/27/13 4:54:29 PM#18

Noone else can tell you whether you will like this game or not, the only way to find out is to play it yourself.

While I was frustrated with the slow development progress since DFUW release, the return of Claus and the recent pvp patch gives me hope.

There is a freedom in this game that I have only ever experienced in UO. 

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Favourite games have been: UO, Lineage2, WoW, Darkfall, Lotro


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10/27/13 6:22:38 PM#19
Nobody can say for sure, but the prime time game population feels like 500 or less.  I resubbed (yes I'm a sucker) to try out the latest patch and I regret it. You rarely run into other players, and when you do, its a pack of overpowered duelists that will kill you in seconds. It's always the same pack of duelists though. They are from a clan that is frequently called out for hacking/cheating on the forums. I don't know how they find me all the time, it's like they can track me somehow.

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10/27/13 6:45:41 PM#20
Most fun I've had in an mmo since eq1. Trust me OP you do not want a ton of people running around when you are trying to get stuff done solo. The best mmo world I've found (vanguard is close but there are no chunk loading times in this game). Join a clan that's active and you will find things to do with them every night. I enjoy the slower pace of the crafting and gathering. There really is no other game out there like it.
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