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  Zalmon

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Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 323

10/24/13 9:19:51 AM#21
Originally posted by DocBrody

yeah I´m on an european server, Jar Kai Sword.. not much going on on planets.

 

The problem is the planets are dull and static, it is more fun to queue for PvP atm or do an occasional flashpoint.

When the Space Shooter comes people will do that.

 

I believe SWTOR is now at the population of SWG at its final days.

220 servers merged to 17, still not much going on

I play a lot more Secret World recently, also Age of Conan, and I see people everywhere. Not interested in Final fantasy at all

 I hardly run into players in TSW other than the Agartha where everyone hangs out. Same for AOC. Only because you see a lot of players at one spot where you are doesn't mean game is very populated. It is matter of perception. TSW and AOC were never known to be highly populated.

  Malasorte

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10/24/13 9:24:16 AM#22
all went New Republic :D
  maxima29

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10/24/13 9:34:10 AM#23
Originally posted by DocBrody

yeah I´m on an european server, Jar Kai Sword.. not much going on on planets.

 

The problem is the planets are dull and static, it is more fun to queue for PvP atm or do an occasional flashpoint.

When the Space Shooter comes people will do that.

 

I believe SWTOR is now at the population of SWG at its final days.

220 servers merged to 17, still not much going on

I play a lot more Secret World recently, also Age of Conan, and I see people everywhere. Not interested in Final fantasy at all

Oh come on now!  Are you implying that AoC and TSW have a higher population then SWTOR?  I've played all three in my experience Swtor has more going on hands down not even close, but I'm on a us server shadowlands .

  As for swg I've made a practice to not even try and reason with people who reference this on every Swtor post.  One they (not you) are delusional and desperately failing at trying to take down swtor.  You can call them out (not you) they report you and staff here is very pro swg and very sympathetic to this crowd and you will get a slap on the hand.  But on swg vs Swtor Swtor still has a higher population then swg could ever dreamed of...there is a reason is closed.

  simplius

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Joined: 12/12/12
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10/24/13 11:11:26 PM#24

okay, but did it take 6 years to make swg? did swg have one of the biggest budgets in gaming history?

swtor was designed, and sold as the new wow

and they did have the initial sales

but that only lasted, until people got wise

wows first box is still 5$ on the open market..8 years after

how much is a swtor box going for these days?

  skyline385

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Joined: 7/09/13
Posts: 601

10/25/13 12:02:20 AM#25
Originally posted by simplius

okay, but did it take 6 years to make swg? did swg have one of the biggest budgets in gaming history?

swtor was designed, and sold as the new wow

and they did have the initial sales

but that only lasted, until people got wise

wows first box is still 5$ on the open market..8 years after

how much is a swtor box going for these days?

And all of this matters because...???

  CIB3

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Joined: 7/16/10
Posts: 40

10/25/13 5:10:59 AM#26
SWTOR is empty?!?!  I'm so happy... maybe BW (and subscribers too) will see the importance of those free players. And stop to consider them just garbage players.
  Zalmon

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Joined: 12/02/11
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10/25/13 7:11:36 AM#27
Originally posted by CIB3
SWTOR is empty?!?!  I'm so happy... maybe BW (and subscribers too) will see the importance of those free players. And stop to consider them just garbage players.

Sorry to be a spoil sport and ruin your happiness but no SWTOR isn't empty.

  DocBrody

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Joined: 4/24/13
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10/25/13 7:26:03 AM#28
Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by CIB3
SWTOR is empty?!?!  I'm so happy... maybe BW (and subscribers too) will see the importance of those free players. And stop to consider them just garbage players.

Sorry to be a spoil sport and ruin your happiness but no SWTOR isn't empty.

Primetime, last time I checked 6 players on Alderaan

 

I did some quests and met no one on a Friday evening. Only one instance.

Warzones take 5-10 minutes to pop

 

guess it's time for another server merge, because my server is totally boring and underpopulated

  CrazKanuk

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Joined: 10/06/09
Posts: 1216

10/25/13 7:31:42 AM#29
Originally posted by JeroKane

This game, just like many others, took a serious hit in population when FFXIV:ARR released back end of august.

 

Sorry, this isn't the reason. As much as fans would like to believe it, the universe didn't come to a stop when ARR was released. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if SWTOR has more subscribers than ARR now that the first month is done. 

 

I found much the same issue when I was playing (even before ARR) and it's more likely due to the fact that you're in areas where other people aren't. Just like most MMOs, there is very little reason to return to a planet once you're done on it, so people simply don't. If you hung out around fleet, there would likely be more people. 

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  hikaru77

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10/25/13 7:34:50 AM#30
Originally posted by JeroKane

This game, just like many others, took a serious hit in population when FFXIV:ARR released back end of august.

It´s the New flavor of the month MMO at this moment.

I noticed the same thing on Ebon Hawke (which was supposed to be a decent pop server too) when I logged in two weeks ago to check Things out and all zones were dead during prime time. Maybe 1 - 3 players in a zone and a handful of players on Fleet.

The only Groups going atm are endgame Groups. Unless you still manage to have some friends in a guild at the same Level as you to Group With.

No, it didnt. The people who play games like SWTOR is not the same as the one playing FFXIV. There was nothing like a ¨hit¨ or huge drop with the FFXIV release, and the ones who left to play it (maybe 2% of the swtor players), was on swtor once again after a week. Low levels Planets where empty since day 1, is a design problem, not a population problem, and with all the exp boosters people just do the main history and dont care about everything else. The Population on swtor is good and growing everysingle day after the 2.4 update. FFXIV did nothing to SWTOR population.  http://www.torstatus.net/shards/us/stats  some stats about swtor, green numbers show u how the population is growing.  

And to the OP, endgame is where you start playing SWTOR.   

  maxima29

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Joined: 9/30/13
Posts: 241

10/25/13 7:44:09 AM#31
Originally posted by DocBrody
Originally posted by Zalmon
Originally posted by CIB3
SWTOR is empty?!?!  I'm so happy... maybe BW (and subscribers too) will see the importance of those free players. And stop to consider them just garbage players.

Sorry to be a spoil sport and ruin your happiness but no SWTOR isn't empty.

Primetime, last time I checked 6 players on Alderaan

 

I did some quests and met no one on a Friday evening. Only one instance.

Warzones take 5-10 minutes to pop

 

guess it's time for another server merge, because my server is totally boring and underpopulated

Last I checked on primetime last Friday fleet had 5 instances and the new area had 4.  Fp popped in under 5 min, we ran palace and there were 36 people in there.  You claim that it took 5 min to pop a wz and that equals server merge really?  I have sat in que on wow for almost two hrs before and that is cross server.  I understand you were trying to bash Swtor but 5-10 min que time actually proves they don't need to merge servers cause they are healthy!  

  TheRealDarkeus

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Joined: 6/26/13
Posts: 282

“I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.

10/25/13 9:13:20 AM#32
I just started messing around with the game again and it seems pretty populated. when I play.  Not heavy but there are people.
  Gardavsshade

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Joined: 6/27/11
Posts: 632

10/25/13 10:57:12 AM#33

Whether a Players sees many other Players in SWTOR depends on what time they play ... "Prime time" doesn't mean the same thing to all Players and that might be the disconnect here between what the OP experiences and what others here report. Depending on when I log in SWTOR can either feel like a single player game or a very busy MMO, or anywhere inbetween.

(just a suggestion: if you are going to suggest a time to play use GMT time to pinpoint what time you report many Players ingame, not just "primetime". I see many more Players in PvE zones from 2000gmt til 0400gmt than at any other time- Shadowlands server, NA)

It also depends what you are doing. Which Planet. Which zone (some zones only see activity while leveling and are never visited again). Which Server. Which Faction. Which Instance.

SWTOR was made to help Players that prefer to go solo feel comfortable. It does that well. it does not do well at giving a warm fuzzy to those who like to group.


Nothing to see here... just another MMO Ghost....

  Illudo

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Joined: 8/23/12
Posts: 43

10/25/13 11:19:21 AM#34

Population numbers for the zone OP mentioned and the fleet for both factions:

18:15 CEST (Central Europe) on The Red Eclipse:
Republic players on Alderaan: 83
Empire players on Alderaan: 96

Total: 179 in a level 30 zone


18:15 CEST (Central Europe) on The Red Eclipse:
Republic players on Fleet: 347
Empire players on Fleet: 441

Total: 788 on Fleet

  simplius

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Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 979

10/26/13 1:12:45 AM#35
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by simplius

okay, but did it take 6 years to make swg? did swg have one of the biggest budgets in gaming history?

swtor was designed, and sold as the new wow

and they did have the initial sales

but that only lasted, until people got wise

wows first box is still 5$ on the open market..8 years after

how much is a swtor box going for these days?

And all of this matters because...???

economics..if you put more resources into a product, than it can give in return, your business will fail

any business  is relying on that fact

 

  jesteralways

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Joined: 3/17/13
Posts: 636

10/26/13 1:42:00 AM#36
Depends on which side you are playing and what time you are playing too. I am in NA Jedi Covenant server, the rep side of this server has gone completely blank unless i am doing end game Ops or FPs. but at the same time on the empire side, the business is hot as usual, no matter which planet i go on peak hour, always find lots of players to do Heroics, have 2 or 3 instances all the time. as for eu red eclipse i think imp side is hotter there too.

i want an open world, no phasing, no instancing.i want meaningful owpvp.i want player driven economy.i want meaningful crafting.i want awesome exploration, a sense of thrill.i want ow housing with a meaningful effect on my entire gameplay experience, not just some instanced crap.i want all of these free of cost, i don't wanna pay you a cent, game devs can eat grass and continue developing game for me.
Seems like that is the current consensus of western mmo players.

  Mondo80

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Joined: 11/11/04
Posts: 176

10/26/13 1:46:22 AM#37
Wait you can only have 45-50 ppl on a planet in SWTOR?

  Wizardry

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Posts: 6829

Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

10/26/13 2:04:15 AM#38

EA created a super generic questing game and does not listen or care after releasing a game.They needed to create reason to play outside of following quest markers on a map.a perfect example would be to have something like a daily server wide get together similar to Besieged in FFXI.

They needed a MUCH better system for grouping,as is the entire design no matter group or not is still based on soloing.Mobs are scattered to look like a pc game instead of any realism,just a weak effort on game design.It has nothing to do with any other games stealing the population,i was tuned off by level 20 on every class because the game was just too generic,voice overs cannot save a boring game.

I know it selfish but the entire combat system and mob system/ai needed to be totally revamped.redone.If they realized this major weakness,i would have no problem returning to the game.I  think we all would like to see a "complete" sci fi/space type game in the mmo genre because Eve does not come close to filling this void.

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  Frostvein

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10/26/13 6:47:00 AM#39

This thread reminds me of a few months after launch where people were telling me my server wasn't dead, when in fact my server was very, very dead. 20-25 people on fleet dead.

 

However, I find it hard to believe that the 17 or so servers they have left are as dead as people in this thread are claiming.

 

Too many idiots are willing to pay for or play anything with Star Wars on or in it, so its pretty far fetched to think that they don't have a relatively stable population.

  IG-88

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Joined: 8/03/12
Posts: 134

 
OP  10/26/13 6:53:22 AM#40

I started this thread as i was unable to get into any planetary destinations, i have to wait for hours without any group get matched.

 

Im interested in what makes a game an MMO, the massive multiplayer experience with player interdependancy.

Killing 20 killiks and then killing 20 rats, its not for me.

From now on, ill do flashpoints, and planetary destinations to grind so i can solo my class quests.

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