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10/23/13 4:52:18 AM#101
Originally posted by Neo_Viper
Originally posted by Foomerang


Originally posted by Neo_Viper

Originally posted by laserit Who in the heck would play Doom or Quake without a mouse. Mice were pretty common place by the mid to late 80's never mind the mid 90's
Some people had a hard time to adapt to mice, deeply stuck in the keyboard and joystick mentality. I remember handing them their virtual asses until they finally understood that a mouse was superior.


Anyway, good, then answer my question... how would a guy using a controller fare against a guy using the "doom/quake" mouse+keyboard combo in PvP in the same game? How could he compete against a person which can instantly turn his character in any direction in all three dimensions, with fantastic precision? And I only talk about a guy with a normal PC mouse, don't get me started on a guy with a gaming mouse.

The two platforms just are not compatible balance wise. It just does not work. Unless the console player uses his console like a PC, with a mouse. But how many do that? Console players play in their couch, they don't want to have to rely on something on a table. So if you mix both platforms, the console players will be at a disadvantage, and will complain, and trouble will start.

Depends on the game. You make games that are better suited for various interfaces. I don't think one is superior to the other per se. The examples you give would favor a mouse, however I can give just as many examples where other interfaces would far exceed a mouse and keyboard.


Whether we can decide if this is dumbing down is very subjective since there are many genres where people play at an extremely competitive level using all types of interfaces.

Fact is, mice prevail in ANY video game genre except platform games since like 20 years ago.

And you can't compete with a controller when your opponent, equally skilled, is using a mouse. You just won't be able to react as fast as he will. It has nothing to do with personal skill, the console player isn't more "dumb" than the PC player, it's just the tool which is better adapted for the task at hand.

Flight Simulators........ and that certainly isn't what you implied earlier. I do quote, "People with not a clue about how a computer works and who have a low education level play console games.

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10/23/13 5:09:55 AM#102

Originally posted by khameleon
As many can see by posts in every MMORPG forum whether current or future, PC gamers are all complaining and bored and have little hope for any MMORPG games. Why? They are burned out, they have been playing these games for 10-15+ years, many people put in 10+ hours a day every day for all that time too(as sick as that may seem, its common for an MMORPG gamer).  So, its not the games that are bad, its the gamers that are just burned out.

Now comes along the PS4 and comes with it millions and millions of gamers that never have touched an MMORPG before as they play on consoles only many of them. The ones that have played MMORPGs probably have not been too "hardcore" into them because they play a lot on their PS1, PS2, PS3, etc. all those years.

DC Online, EQ Next, FFXIV, Elder Scrolls Online and many more will all be on the PS4. These games wil be something new, exciting and refreshing to the PS4 console crowd. 

These games will be played on Big screen TVs and look awesome and play awesome as the PS4 while not as strong as a top gaming rig, will still play any current game at top settings and everyone will have the same hardware, nobody will be suffering from lag or crap settings while the guy next to him in game is on a better machine. 

I really see the MMORPG genre growing and having a lot of excitement coming soon due to the infusion of console gamers and  the games being played on the huge screens by a new group of players that are not going to be bored right away or come in burned out like most PC gamers are that join these games nowadays and complain from day 1.

I myself am a PC gamer for the most part over the past 5+ years, but I grew up on consoles and look forward to seeing the consoles join the MMO world and breathe life into a genre that PC gamers have pretty much given up on and taken for granted the last few years because of burn out. 


I don't know about this. It's not enough to just plop an MMORPG onto a console to get great effects. DCUO is already running on consoles and so is Defiance and we haven't seen great effects happening.

The games themselves will have to be exceptionally appealing to get console gamers to both stick with the game and to possibly pay a subscription fee. Skyrim is one example of a game that has long lasting appeal, but it is very much the exception. Outside of online PvP, most console games are completed within a weekend, and there's not much to show that most console gamers aren't happy with being able to finish most games in a weekend.

I would consider the PS4 more of an additional distribution channel for these MMORPGs, not something that's going to revolutionize the MMORPG landscape.

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10/23/13 5:25:07 AM#103

I hope EQ Next will be on console. This would be the end of MMORPG on consoles for sure. The first EQ on PS3 was a disaster, EQ Next will be one aswell (for the console player)and I hope they will learn, that MMORPG on consoles won't work.


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10/23/13 5:32:57 AM#104

I don't care much about consoles, and some titles being on them doesn't bother me personally..


That being said, I see it as more of a minus, then a plus if I had to predict its effect.  I do not think they will make a mmo on a console as deep as they would a pc only version...I think mmos are too shallow to begin with right now, let alone being console friendly.


I could be wrong, but I do not like the current direction, and I do not see this helping that out...If you like the direction, then I see this being a plus for you probably.


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10/24/13 2:14:37 AM#105
Consoles can only kill MMORPG genre, never breathe new life. Unless you can attach keyboard and mouse to it but then ... is more computer then console. Long gone are times when I had my share of fun BUTTON MASHING. And this is what console are (mainly) all about.

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10/24/13 10:22:03 AM#106
Originally posted by daltanious
Consoles can only kill MMORPG genre, never breathe new life. Unless you can attach keyboard and mouse to it but then ... is more computer then console. Long gone are times when I had my share of fun BUTTON MASHING. And this is what console are (mainly) all about.

May be consoles can kill MMORPG and make it rebirth as something more fun to many, like Destiny.


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