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  khameleon

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GAMER 4 LIFE = YOUNG 4 LIFE

 
OP  10/22/13 11:16:30 AM#1

As many can see by posts in every MMORPG forum whether current or future, PC gamers are all complaining and bored and have little hope for any MMORPG games. Why? They are burned out, they have been playing these games for 10-15+ years, many people put in 10+ hours a day every day for all that time too(as sick as that may seem, its common for an MMORPG gamer).  So, its not the games that are bad, its the gamers that are just burned out.

Now comes along the PS4 and comes with it millions and millions of gamers that never have touched an MMORPG before as they play on consoles only many of them. The ones that have played MMORPGs probably have not been too "hardcore" into them because they play a lot on their PS1, PS2, PS3, etc. all those years.

DC Online, EQ Next, FFXIV, Elder Scrolls Online and many more will all be on the PS4. These games wil be something new, exciting and refreshing to the PS4 console crowd. 

These games will be played on Big screen TVs and look awesome and play awesome as the PS4 while not as strong as a top gaming rig, will still play any current game at top settings and everyone will have the same hardware, nobody will be suffering from lag or crap settings while the guy next to him in game is on a better machine. 

I really see the MMORPG genre growing and having a lot of excitement coming soon due to the infusion of console gamers and  the games being played on the huge screens by a new group of players that are not going to be bored right away or come in burned out like most PC gamers are that join these games nowadays and complain from day 1.

I myself am a PC gamer for the most part over the past 5+ years, but I grew up on consoles and look forward to seeing the consoles join the MMO world and breathe life into a genre that PC gamers have pretty much given up on and taken for granted the last few years because of burn out. 

 

 

 

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  Neo_Viper

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If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

10/22/13 11:20:37 AM#2

As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play. A MMORPG which releases and shares the same servers between PC and console gamers will be a MMORPG I won't even try.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

My computer is better than yours.

  IsilithTehroth

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10/22/13 11:23:01 AM#3
Consoles usually dumb down mmorpgs in almost every aspect. Although with the tech improvement it may be a little better. For every other game the new consoles will help push pc tech and make generally all non mmorpg games better.

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  immodium

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10/22/13 11:24:18 AM#4
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

Why wouldn't you want console gamers to invade your game? PC players are just as annoying. :)

  Neo_Viper

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If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

10/22/13 11:28:50 AM#5
Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

Why wouldn't you want console gamers to invade your game? PC players are just as annoying. :)

Compared to places like (e.g.) XBox Live, the worse MMO communities look like they are full of highly intelligent people.

To make it short, the MMO community is already bad enough, it doesn't need to be made worse by the invasion of console teenagers.

Not to mention that keyboard+mouse is infinitely superior to a gamepad to control a MMO, and it would create imbalances and massive whining from the console crowd resulting in dumbing down the game to adapt to them.

My computer is better than yours.

  cura

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10/22/13 11:32:23 AM#6
Yeah, it will breath more simplicity and shallowness. No thank you. 
  immodium

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10/22/13 11:38:07 AM#7
Originally posted by Neo_Viper
Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

Why wouldn't you want console gamers to invade your game? PC players are just as annoying. :)

Compared to places like (e.g.) XBox Live, the worse MMO communities look like they are full of highly intelligent people.

To make it short, the MMO community is already bad enough, it doesn't need to be made worse by the invasion of console teenagers.

Not to mention that keyboard+mouse is infinitely superior to a gamepad to control a MMO, and it would create imbalances and massive whining from the console crowd resulting in dumbing down the game to adapt to them.

Totally agree with you on with the red part.

The thing is ES is more a console franchise now. Skyrim is a console game, Oblivion felt like a console game (not to sure if that one was developed for console then ported).

ESO seems to be developed for PC so heres hoping combat isn't dumbed down.

  User Deleted
10/22/13 11:39:38 AM#8

At the very least, console devs may bring some much needed professionalism to the genre. MMO devs are masters of bullshit, blowing a budget, and missing deadlines.

  Nadia

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10/22/13 11:41:38 AM#9
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

 EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

that is true - but there have been strong hints by SOE

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/09/soe-all-our-mmos-in-development-have-a-console-component/

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/12/everquest-next-not-planned-for-playstation-4-yet

 

  Milander

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10/22/13 11:46:18 AM#10
Originally posted by Neo_Viper
Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

Why wouldn't you want console gamers to invade your game? PC players are just as annoying. :)

Compared to places like (e.g.) XBox Live, the worse MMO communities look like they are full of highly intelligent people.

To make it short, the MMO community is already bad enough, it doesn't need to be made worse by the invasion of console teenagers.

Not to mention that keyboard+mouse is infinitely superior to a gamepad to control a MMO, and it would create imbalances and massive whining from the console crowd resulting in dumbing down the game to adapt to them.

Actually Xbox live people on their worse day are angels compared to the League of Legend players on their BEST. As for the "But but, keyboard is so much better in an MMO" I play an MMO just fine WITH the PC people on my ps3 and we all seem to enjoy it (yes I'm talking about FF14, which has been seriously hurt because of PC users and their exploits)

But really, PC, Console, smart phone, tablet, who cares we're all gamers for crissakes. Drop the "Well I'm a PC player, so I'm superior" crap and the MMORPG world will be a lot more enjoyable :)

I'm a Gamer, on any platform I can play.

 

  Neo_Viper

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If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

10/22/13 11:51:08 AM#11
Originally posted by Milander
Originally posted by Neo_Viper
Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

Why wouldn't you want console gamers to invade your game? PC players are just as annoying. :)

Compared to places like (e.g.) XBox Live, the worse MMO communities look like they are full of highly intelligent people.

To make it short, the MMO community is already bad enough, it doesn't need to be made worse by the invasion of console teenagers.

Not to mention that keyboard+mouse is infinitely superior to a gamepad to control a MMO, and it would create imbalances and massive whining from the console crowd resulting in dumbing down the game to adapt to them.

Actually Xbox live people on their worse day are angels compared to the League of Legend players on their BEST. As for the "But but, keyboard is so much better in an MMO" I play an MMO just fine WITH the PC people on my ps3 and we all seem to enjoy it (yes I'm talking about FF14, which has been seriously hurt because of PC users and their exploits)

But really, PC, Console, smart phone, tablet, who cares we're all gamers for crissakes. Drop the "Well I'm a PC player, so I'm superior" crap and the MMORPG world will be a lot more enjoyable :)

I'm a Gamer, on any platform I can play.

LOL isn't a MMORPG. And yeah, I agree, it has the community filled with the most elitist asshats of online games.

And see your reaction? "yes I'm talking about FF14, which has been seriously hurt because of PC users and their exploits". Pretty much what I was talking about. You can't move as precisely and fast with a controller than you can with a mouse+keyboard, and that's what the console games consider "exploits". It's just like someone back in time trying to play Doom 100% with the keyboard against someone playing with a mouse - he would be utterly owned.

My computer is better than yours.

  SavageHorizon

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10/22/13 11:51:23 AM#12
Originally posted by Neo_Viper
Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

Why wouldn't you want console gamers to invade your game? PC players are just as annoying. :)

Compared to places like (e.g.) XBox Live, the worse MMO communities look like they are full of highly intelligent people.

Yes it has got a bad community, thankfully i have a PS3 as well as my PC and don't have to put up with Xbox live.

To make it short, the MMO community is already bad enough, it doesn't need to be made worse by the invasion of console teenagers.

This above line makes you just as bad as the so called teenagers you are moaning about, stones and glass houses come to mind.

Not to mention that keyboard+mouse is infinitely superior to a gamepad to control a MMO, and it would create imbalances and massive whining from the console crowd resulting in dumbing down the game to adapt to them.

Total fabrication on your part lol, you have no proof of the part i've highlighted in red.

Think you will find that the average age of console gamer's is around the 30 years of age mark.

I wonder what you would say if people started moaning about old age pensioners of 55 playing games.

Fro someone who claims to be 55 you sure sound like one of the teens you are going on about.

Oh and game pads for mmo's have come along way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31VUjynjed0

I prefer mouse and keyboard and i'm sure i'll be able to get one for my PS4 if i want.

I'm buying TESO on the PS4 to play on my 55in samsung smart tv, i could buy it for my PC but i'll leave that to games like EQN.

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  vmoped

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10/22/13 11:52:28 AM#13
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play. A MMORPG which releases and shares the same servers between PC and console gamers will be a MMORPG I won't even try.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

 The irony of this statement is the ffxi has one of the best communities and is shared across consoles and pcs, ffxiv also has a great community as well.  Regardless of the game's mechanics, the communities are fabulous, regardless of what hardware the player uses.  Hardware does not correlate with personality mate.  I have met awesome people on both, and not so awesome people on both.  Assuming one crowd is more mature than the other is just plan ignorance.  People once tried that with races as well...

Cheers!

MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S

  Neo_Viper

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If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.

10/22/13 11:53:04 AM#14
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Neo_Viper
Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

Why wouldn't you want console gamers to invade your game? PC players are just as annoying. :)

Compared to places like (e.g.) XBox Live, the worse MMO communities look like they are full of highly intelligent people.

Yes it has got a bad community, thankfully i have a PS3 as well as my PC and don't have to put up with Xbox live.

To make it short, the MMO community is already bad enough, it doesn't need to be made worse by the invasion of console teenagers.

This above line makes you just as bad as the so called teenagers you are moaning about, stones and glass houses come to mind.

Not to mention that keyboard+mouse is infinitely superior to a gamepad to control a MMO, and it would create imbalances and massive whining from the console crowd resulting in dumbing down the game to adapt to them.

Total fabrication on your part lol, you have no proof of the part i've highlighted in red.

Think you will find that the average age of console gamer's is around the 30 years of age mark.

How old are you?

Older than the age you mention, and most likely older than you (my age is in my profile).

 

Originally posted by vmoped
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play. A MMORPG which releases and shares the same servers between PC and console gamers will be a MMORPG I won't even try.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

 The irony of this statement is the ffxi has one of the best communities and is shared across consoles and pcs, ffxiv also has a great community as well.  Regardless of the game's mechanics, the communities are fabulous, regardless of what hardware the player uses.  Hardware does not correlate with personality mate.  I have met awesome people on both, and not so awesome people on both.  Assuming one crowd is more mature than the other is just plan ignorance.  People once tried that with races as well...

Cheers!

You possibly have been lucky with your guild there, but my experience with those games was pretty horrible - it made WoW's barren chat sound like a highly intellectual discussion between two scientists.

Hardware does correlate with personality, and I'm definitely not your "mate". Consoles = easily accessible, plug in and play. PC = harder to configure and to maintain properly (even if that has become easier past 2005). People with not a clue about how a computer works and who have a low education level play console games. Not saying that about people posting here, but in general.

Sorry, I don't enjoy the company of the "LOL WTF ROFLCOPTER" crowd, and console gamers would only make that even worse than it is today. I hope developers will keep servers separated, and I will petition for that on the forums of future games I'm interested in.

To make it clear, I don't talk about discrimination here. I have no problem with console gamers having access to MMORPGs too, as long as it doesn't mean the PC version being dumbed down to adapt to consoles. I just don't want those people in my community (=server), just as I don't want the nightclub crowd and its loud music to invade my favorite pub and it's celtic, jazz and rock music. Different people, different tastes, different places. I don't force people to come to my pub, and I won't accept people trying to force me to go to their nightclub. If a game tries that, I will just not give it any of my money.

My computer is better than yours.

  nerovipus32

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10/22/13 11:55:19 AM#15
Originally posted by Neo_Viper
Originally posted by immodium
Originally posted by Neo_Viper

As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.

Why wouldn't you want console gamers to invade your game? PC players are just as annoying. :)

Compared to places like (e.g.) XBox Live, the worse MMO communities look like they are full of highly intelligent people.

To make it short, the MMO community is already bad enough, it doesn't need to be made worse by the invasion of console teenagers.

Not to mention that keyboard+mouse is infinitely superior to a gamepad to control a MMO, and it would create imbalances and massive whining from the console crowd resulting in dumbing down the game to adapt to them.

That's not true at all, pc gamers are just as annoying as console gamers. I heard wow and lol have lovely communities /sarcasm.

  Deivos

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Iarð skal rifna, ok upphiminn.

10/22/13 11:57:35 AM#16
Originally posted by Neo_Viper
Originally posted by SavageHorizon

Think you will find that the average age of console gamer's is around the 30 years of age mark.

How old are you?

Older than the age you mention, and most likely older than you (my age is in my profile).

That rather fails to invalidate his remark/correction.

As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero. - Vaarsuvius

  azmundai

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Posts: 1424

10/22/13 11:58:59 AM#17

thanks for telling us whats wrong and how we feel.

here, have a cracker jack masters degree. you've earned it.

LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already :)

  Burntvet

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Joined: 11/16/07
Posts: 2757

10/22/13 12:04:14 PM#18
Because so-called MMO/MMORPGs aren't shallow and disposable enough already?
  Hatefull

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Your tears make my gun work better.

10/22/13 12:08:47 PM#19


Originally posted by Neo_Viper
As long as the console servers are separated from the PC servers, I couldn't care less. I just don't want the console crowd to invade games I play. A MMORPG which releases and shares the same servers between PC and console gamers will be a MMORPG I won't even try.

And EQ Next has never been announced on consoles yet. There have only been assumptions and theories by some gaming web sites, nothing more.


Agreed. I want nothing to do with a console in an MMO with me. Defiance and FFXIV have proven (to me anyway) they do not mix well. Give the consoles their own server, let PC have theirs.

If you want a new idea, go read an old book.

  goldtoof

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Joined: 10/18/13
Posts: 338

10/22/13 12:13:30 PM#20

noooooooooooooooo

"we most keep mmos the domain of the pc master race"

 

 

 

 

ONLY JOKING

For someone who wants to play just MMOs the playstation 4 looks a fantastic deal.  If you are heavily playing MMOs you won't be buying many games, which is where the PC has advantage over consoles - cost of games.  If you're just going to be playing EQN, ESO, PS2 or whatever there is no point building an expensive PC for it when they are on PS4.  If your the sort of person who buys at least a game a month though, then PC is better value for money.

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