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  nilden

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OP  10/22/13 10:07:06 AM#1

Warcraft 4, Neverwinter Nights 3, Knights of the Old Republic 3, and I have serious fears about the next Elder Scrolls installment.

My main question here and what I would like to discuss is what if you heard Fallout, Grand Theft Auto, Mass Effect, Starcraft, or any other popular franchise was announcing a MMORPG. Would you be excited, disappointed or both at the prospect of going MMO? The main concern being other games will not be developed because of the MMO.

I wish we still got the games I listed at the start of this post instead of having to compromise franchises into MMOs. I feel like there is still a huge market for the non-MMO games to exist in and sadly they do not get made.

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  Phaserlight

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10/22/13 10:11:51 AM#2

I'm pretty sure that's a false cause; just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it will never happen.  I think it's really up to the game studios to decide "hey, why not go on and make another [insert favorite IP here]  game, even though there's that one MMO going"... along with a number of other factors including the market, etc.

With all the news about WoW subs on the decline, I wouldn't be surprised to see Warcraft 4 at some point.

/2c 

edit: I don't think it's even necessarily true that an MMO must fail in order for there to be a non-MMO sequel... so... ignore that comment about WoW.  Gah!

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  Gravarg

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10/22/13 10:16:42 AM#3
I wouldn't mind another Warcraft RTS :D
  nariusseldon

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10/22/13 10:54:57 AM#4

I am not too concern if some sequels do not get made. I thought people here actually like innovation instead of clamoring for more and more sequels.

There is enough entertainment in the world anyway.

  elocke

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10/22/13 10:58:43 AM#5
Final Fantasy has 2 MMOs and is still churning out single player FFs. Warhammer also had an MMO and still pooped out some RTSs, FPSs, TPSs and so on.   So...me thinks the point here is moot.

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  nariusseldon

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10/22/13 12:01:01 PM#6
Originally posted by elocke
Final Fantasy has 2 MMOs and is still churning out single player FFs. Warhammer also had an MMO and still pooped out some RTSs, FPSs, TPSs and so on.   So...me thinks the point here is moot.

BTW, warhammer quest is a great turn-based iOS dungeon romp. A bit short .. but good nevertheless (another example of games don't have to be long to be fun).

 

  lizardbones

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10/22/13 12:04:17 PM#7

What about games that we might actually see because MMOs and multiplayer gaming are an expected thing now?

Multiplayer Fallout would probably be cool.

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  Neo_Viper

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10/22/13 12:06:22 PM#8
Originally posted by lizardbones

What about games that we might actually see because MMOs and multiplayer gaming are an expected thing now?

Multiplayer Fallout would probably be cool.

I'd love to see more smaller scale quality multiplayer games I could play with friends. Things like Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2, where you can also edit and build your own worlds.

Things like a multiplayer Skyrim would be awesome (yeah I know there's a mod, but it's quite crappy).

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  Quirhid

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10/22/13 12:10:41 PM#9
Originally posted by lizardbones

What about games that we might actually see because MMOs and multiplayer gaming are an expected thing now?

Multiplayer Fallout would probably be cool.

Please, no.

Co-op games maybe, MMOs definite no.

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  immodium

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10/22/13 12:14:55 PM#10
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by lizardbones

What about games that we might actually see because MMOs and multiplayer gaming are an expected thing now?

Multiplayer Fallout would probably be cool.

Please, no.

Co-op games maybe, MMOs definite no.

If ES 6 doesn't release with a co-op mode I'd be shocked.

  nariusseldon

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10/22/13 12:16:38 PM#11
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by lizardbones

What about games that we might actually see because MMOs and multiplayer gaming are an expected thing now?

Multiplayer Fallout would probably be cool.

Please, no.

Co-op games maybe, MMOs definite no.

many MMOs are more or less Co-op games anyway.

I would like a SP turn-based fallout on my tablet though.

  superniceguy

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10/22/13 12:24:17 PM#12

KOTOR 3 may end up being made, as EA have acquired rights to make Star Wars games now, and they own Bioware, the only worry now though is that it may not be high quality, as it will be developed by EAware, more than Bioware, with the Doctors quitting.

FF XI did not stop FF XII and FF XIII from being made, so there is still hope of games being made even with MMOs, but less likely due to developers concentrating on the MMOs than making new games

  goldtoof

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10/22/13 1:07:23 PM#13
Originally posted by nilden

Warcraft 4, Neverwinter Nights 3, Knights of the Old Republic 3, and I have serious fears about the next Elder Scrolls installment.

My main question here and what I would like to discuss is what if you heard Fallout, Grand Theft Auto, Mass Effect, Starcraft, or any other popular franchise was announcing a MMORPG. Would you be excited, disappointed or both at the prospect of going MMO? The main concern being other games will not be developed because of the MMO.

I wish we still got the games I listed at the start of this post instead of having to compromise franchises into MMOs. I feel like there is still a huge market for the non-MMO games to exist in and sadly they do not get made.

well in the case of elder scrolls.  Bethseda are currently working on fallout 4, set in the Boston area.  After that they are making TES6.  ESO isn't being made by bethseda.

 

As for games I would like as MMOs.

Chivalry - would be like a medieval planetside

DOOM 2 - hell on earth

Elite - but thats happening anyway

  Konfess

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10/22/13 1:08:29 PM#14

The communities main complaint with SWTOR was that is was KoTOR 3.  I said it during beta.  The VA story and side quests would feel like speed bumps to MMO gamers, and they did.  I'm not gonna call the space combat "on rails", I'm gonna call it what it has always been a "Turret Shooter Mini Game".  This is something that KoTOR has always had.

 

I don't believe that Fallout Online is dead.  I expect that Interplay will repurpose the work that was done and release it, when and if they can.  Bethesda fought for control of the IP, I still expect ZeniMax Online to do something with it.

 

True MMOs are resource hogs, but soon the industry will learn how to manage the demand and churn out MMO for the price of single player games.

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  lizardbones

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10/22/13 1:13:29 PM#15


Originally posted by Quirhid

Originally posted by lizardbones What about games that we might actually see because MMOs and multiplayer gaming are an expected thing now? Multiplayer Fallout would probably be cool.
Please, no.

Co-op games maybe, MMOs definite no.




Yeah, I wasn't talking about MMORPGs. More along the lines of player run servers. Basically what's possible with Minecraft. Though I expect if stuff like this does happen, all of the "servers" will be run on the developers' servers.

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  aspekx

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10/22/13 1:16:54 PM#16

im actually more concerned that we won't get an ES co-op game than anything else.

 

i really wish they had released a co-op for Oblivion and Skyrim tbh.

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  DamonVile

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10/22/13 2:55:18 PM#17

Do we really need a warcraft 4 or a dragon age part 26 ?

I'd rather see these titles get ruined by mmos and new titles with new stories created. I hate seeing movies remade. I don't really want to see all my old favorites become tired old games that have just been hollowed out so ppl can dump money into them.

  immodium

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10/22/13 2:58:06 PM#18
Originally posted by DamonVile

Do we really need a warcraft 4 or a dragon age part 26 ?

I'd rather see these titles get ruined by mmos and new titles with new stories created. I hate seeing movies remade. I don't really want to see all my old favorites become tired old games that have just been hollowed out so ppl can dump money into them.

Depends.

If they are just re-skinning old game mechanics then yeah. However if Warcraft 4 was pushing new innovative mechanics within the RTS genre then yes please, give me Warcraft 4. Same for Dragon Age 26. :)

  ElRenmazuo

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10/22/13 6:43:10 PM#19
I want a warcraft single player rpg with some rts gameplay in it, kind of like how Brutal Legend mixed rpg with rts elements.

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  Nitth

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10/22/13 6:48:39 PM#20


Originally posted by goldtoof

Originally posted by nilden Warcraft 4, Neverwinter Nights 3, Knights of the Old Republic 3, and I have serious fears about the next Elder Scrolls installment. My main question here and what I would like to discuss is what if you heard Fallout, Grand Theft Auto, Mass Effect, Starcraft, or any other popular franchise was announcing a MMORPG. Would you be excited, disappointed or both at the prospect of going MMO? The main concern being other games will not be developed because of the MMO. I wish we still got the games I listed at the start of this post instead of having to compromise franchises into MMOs. I feel like there is still a huge market for the non-MMO games to exist in and sadly they do not get made.
well in the case of elder scrolls.  Bethseda are currently working on fallout 4, set in the Boston area.  After that they are making TES6.  ESO isn't being made by bethseda.

That is speculation and rumors.


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