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  Hyanmen

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Joined: 10/11/06
Posts: 4964

10/23/13 5:48:28 AM#101
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

FF:ARR FATE grinding: People not having fun by doing something not actually intended to get to a point that doesn't really matter as fast as possible. Just so they can do the same thing over and over again to gain a piece of virtual loot.

  masterbrood

Novice Member

Joined: 12/15/04
Posts: 62

10/23/13 5:57:47 AM#102
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

 

I lol'ed

Seriously though....the bottom line is that the game is lacking in content right now.  Honestly?  I have no issues with that.  Why?  Because it's brand frickin new.  If people are expecting a game at launch to have as much content as games that have been around for YEARS (as most of the detractors clearly state in every single post about how x game that's been around for 5+ years has way more content.....duh) they will be sorely dissapointed in any launch title.

-The only sure thing about the future is uncertainty

  User Deleted
10/23/13 6:17:29 AM#103
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

You might as well afk in some hub and "take your time". It would amount the same.

Did i hit the nerve there or sumtin? Chill out bro

  User Deleted
10/23/13 6:18:43 AM#104
Originally posted by masterbrood
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

 

I lol'ed

Seriously though....the bottom line is that the game is lacking in content right now.  Honestly?  I have no issues with that.  Why?  Because it's brand frickin new.  If people are expecting a game at launch to have as much content as games that have been around for YEARS (as most of the detractors clearly state in every single post about how x game that's been around for 5+ years has way more content.....duh) they will be sorely dissapointed in any launch title.

So your suggestion is to just drop it now and revisit it in 5+ years as then it will have enough content.

On some level i agree.

On another level FFXIV is out now and compete with what is out now, not what was 5+ years ago.

  bcbully

Elite Member

Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7185

10/23/13 6:31:55 AM#105
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by masterbrood
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

 

I lol'ed

Seriously though....the bottom line is that the game is lacking in content right now.  Honestly?  I have no issues with that.  Why?  Because it's brand frickin new.  If people are expecting a game at launch to have as much content as games that have been around for YEARS (as most of the detractors clearly state in every single post about how x game that's been around for 5+ years has way more content.....duh) they will be sorely dissapointed in any launch title.

So your suggestion is to just drop it now and revisit it in 5+ years as then it will have enough content.

On some level i agree.

On another level FFXIV is out now and compete with what is out now, not what was 5+ years ago.

launching with ultra fast progression and two or three options for when that progression is complete is the issue. 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  masterbrood

Novice Member

Joined: 12/15/04
Posts: 62

10/23/13 6:42:14 AM#106
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by masterbrood
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

 

I lol'ed

Seriously though....the bottom line is that the game is lacking in content right now.  Honestly?  I have no issues with that.  Why?  Because it's brand frickin new.  If people are expecting a game at launch to have as much content as games that have been around for YEARS (as most of the detractors clearly state in every single post about how x game that's been around for 5+ years has way more content.....duh) they will be sorely dissapointed in any launch title.

So your suggestion is to just drop it now and revisit it in 5+ years as then it will have enough content.

On some level i agree.

On another level FFXIV is out now and compete with what is out now, not what was 5+ years ago.

launching with ultra fast progression and two or three options for when that progression is complete is the issue. 

This is the other half of the problem.  They kind of shot themselves in the foot by making it so quick.  It is what it is though.

-The only sure thing about the future is uncertainty

  User Deleted
10/23/13 6:47:03 AM#107
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by masterbrood
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

 

I lol'ed

Seriously though....the bottom line is that the game is lacking in content right now.  Honestly?  I have no issues with that.  Why?  Because it's brand frickin new.  If people are expecting a game at launch to have as much content as games that have been around for YEARS (as most of the detractors clearly state in every single post about how x game that's been around for 5+ years has way more content.....duh) they will be sorely dissapointed in any launch title.

So your suggestion is to just drop it now and revisit it in 5+ years as then it will have enough content.

On some level i agree.

On another level FFXIV is out now and compete with what is out now, not what was 5+ years ago.

launching with ultra fast progression and two or three options for when that progression is complete is the issue. 

So take FFXIV and suggest how to make progression significantly slower within limits of a game that FFXIVARR is.

  SpottyGekko

Elite Member

Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 2854

10/23/13 6:51:53 AM#108
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

You might as well afk in some hub and "take your time". It would amount the same.

Did i hit the nerve there or sumtin? Chill out bro

 

He's just laughing at your absolute inability to accept the fact that other people experience things differently to you

You seem to believe that your opinion is the "absolute truth", and anyone who doesn't agree with you is either stupid or lying.

  monochrome19

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/09/13
Posts: 322

10/23/13 7:15:32 AM#109
in the time it takes a normal person to lvl to 10 you managed to lvl a class to 50? Damn dude... thats insane.
  User Deleted
10/23/13 7:16:36 AM#110
Originally posted by SpottyGekko
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

You might as well afk in some hub and "take your time". It would amount the same.

Did i hit the nerve there or sumtin? Chill out bro

 

He's just laughing at your absolute inability to accept the fact that other people experience things differently to you

You seem to believe that your opinion is the "absolute truth", and anyone who doesn't agree with you is either stupid or lying.

Uh-huh. He is ranting, not laughing. By the way he describes it every MMO has infinite content because you can afk in a hub and just say "im taking my time". Yes, its absolute truth, its a fact.

Its also a fact most people dont want to "take their time" (especially if that "taking time" actually cost them money) and actually play the game and run out of things to do very fast. So yes, delaying the inevitable is delaying the inevitable.

You can be a lamb and support such game. Most wont.

  bcbully

Elite Member

Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7185

10/23/13 7:27:36 AM#111
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by masterbrood
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

 

I lol'ed

Seriously though....the bottom line is that the game is lacking in content right now.  Honestly?  I have no issues with that.  Why?  Because it's brand frickin new.  If people are expecting a game at launch to have as much content as games that have been around for YEARS (as most of the detractors clearly state in every single post about how x game that's been around for 5+ years has way more content.....duh) they will be sorely dissapointed in any launch title.

So your suggestion is to just drop it now and revisit it in 5+ years as then it will have enough content.

On some level i agree.

On another level FFXIV is out now and compete with what is out now, not what was 5+ years ago.

launching with ultra fast progression and two or three options for when that progression is complete is the issue. 

So take FFXIV and suggest how to make progression significantly slower within limits of a game that FFXIVARR is.

The problem is not FF's alone. It's problem with the mmorpgs of the last few years. Slowing down progression in the case of FFAR would require more quests, since it's a quest based game. If xp gains per quest was cut by 75% there would need to be 75% more quest. 

 

Here is the dilemma who wants to do 75% more kill/fetch quests? Not many I would suppose. How do you fill the void within the frame work of FFAR? There are FATES and Levies, and soon pvp. These need to be adjusted to supplement the questing, instead of superseding it.

 

 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  MagikrorriM

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10/23/13 7:33:20 AM#112

If I had a dime for every person that says, this brand new game is lacking in content. DUH it's a brand new game. Point two is the people who are complaining the most about the lack of content already started the game at level 50, and multiple classes at that. Hey if you really wanted content you should of created a new character at launch.

FFXIV to date has released with the most content ever offered by a MMO. That's because unlike other MMOs, players were beginning at level 50. I'm sorry but can't feel sympathetic to legacy players that had too many level 50s to start with, had you started a brand new character, you would be truly experiencing the content the game has to offer.

People expecting 10 years worth of content at launch, are setting themselves up for disappointment.

  Zhauric

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10/23/13 7:39:12 AM#113
Originally posted by Foreverdream

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So, back on topic, yes 5 50's and soon another(non legacy player) Some may say i've burnt myself out but that isn't my fault, it's the games for not offering enough content. Running AK 8 times a week and doing coil once a week get's old. Don't  even want to get started on the 1-2-3 crafting.

 

At least the graphics are nice

I'm sorry but this is short of ridiculous. It is YOUR fault. You have to pace yourself. No way can any game developer know exactly how every single individual approach a game. No way are they going to have the resources to have an over abundant amount of endgame as well. That is just not logical. They work with real money and manpower. This isn't monopoly.

So yeah if you burn through a game to the point you have 5 50's (I don't even have freaking one yet nor my wife and she plays damn near every day) then that is a YOU problem. Quit blaming game developers when you play an obnoxious amount of time as if they are supposed to have this inifinite of cash and resources to deliver this never ending utopia of material one month into their launch. That is just freaking ridiculous.

  bcbully

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10/23/13 7:43:00 AM#114
Originally posted by Zhauric
Originally posted by Foreverdream

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So, back on topic, yes 5 50's and soon another(non legacy player) Some may say i've burnt myself out but that isn't my fault, it's the games for not offering enough content. Running AK 8 times a week and doing coil once a week get's old. Don't  even want to get started on the 1-2-3 crafting.

 

At least the graphics are nice

I'm sorry but this is short of ridiculous. It is YOUR fault. You have to pace yourself. No way can any game developer know exactly how every single individual approach a game. No way are they going to have the resources to have an over abundant amount of endgame as well. That is just not logical. They work with real money and manpower. This isn't monopoly.

So yeah if you burn through a game to the point you have 5 50's (I don't even have freaking one yet nor my wife and she plays damn near every day) then that is a YOU problem. Quit blaming game developers when you play an obnoxious amount of time as if they are supposed to have this inifinite of cash and resources to deliver this never ending utopia of material one month into their launch. That is just freaking ridiculous.

It's frustrating hearing so many blame OP for loving the game and playing it. 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Groot

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10/23/13 7:45:48 AM#115

I have lost interest as well.  There's nothing engaging enough to pay for the sub.  Yes, I know there is a lot to do, but I have no connection with my character.  Nothing was difficult to achieve, or took any sort of time.

 

I knew what I was getting in to when I bought the game.  I was able to get a good solid month or so of gameplay and i'm OK with that. I just wish it would be able to be something long term.  I think the biggest killer for me is the way the maps are divided up for console.

  MagikrorriM

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10/23/13 7:47:08 AM#116
I think a lot of people have missed the point, a lot of people had started this game AT level 50, or multiples of level 50s.  They have completely bypassed the whole leveling experience.
  Alamareth

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10/23/13 7:51:09 AM#117

I think people need to remember the data from the massive survey / state of the game SE released a few weeks ago.  While I blasted through levels to hit level 50 on one character in about a week, that survey showed how I was in the extreme minority.

A huge segment of the game isn't through the regular storyline, let alone hard modes, and definitely not in Coil.  For me, leveling up gathering classes and tweaking strategies for Coil is plenty for the next couple of months.  My team finally outright one shot (no deaths) Caduceus, came darn close to a one shot on ADS (bitten by the lag monster), and are progressing through Turn 4.

Do I expect to be basically through the content by next week (assuming no Twintania fix)?  Yep.  That doesn't change how many ancillary things I have to do.  I got some weird ADS plating yesterday, so perhaps that's used in the upcoming FC housing?

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10/23/13 7:54:06 AM#118
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by masterbrood
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

 

I lol'ed

Seriously though....the bottom line is that the game is lacking in content right now.  Honestly?  I have no issues with that.  Why?  Because it's brand frickin new.  If people are expecting a game at launch to have as much content as games that have been around for YEARS (as most of the detractors clearly state in every single post about how x game that's been around for 5+ years has way more content.....duh) they will be sorely dissapointed in any launch title.

So your suggestion is to just drop it now and revisit it in 5+ years as then it will have enough content.

On some level i agree.

On another level FFXIV is out now and compete with what is out now, not what was 5+ years ago.

launching with ultra fast progression and two or three options for when that progression is complete is the issue. 

So take FFXIV and suggest how to make progression significantly slower within limits of a game that FFXIVARR is.

The problem is not FF's alone. It's problem with the mmorpgs of the last few years. Slowing down progression in the case of FFAR would require more quests, since it's a quest based game. If xp gains per quest was cut by 75% there would need to be 75% more quest. 

 

Here is the dilemma who wants to do 75% more kill/fetch quests? Not many I would suppose. How do you fill the void within the frame work of FFAR? There are FATES and Levies, and soon pvp. These need to be adjusted to supplement the questing, instead of superseding it.

 

 

So, in essence, they would need:

1) significantly more content overall

or

2) make people grind same stuff for ages (aka "old school")

Truth is they adjusted progression to the amount of content they had.

  Hyanmen

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10/23/13 8:12:24 AM#119
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by Hyanmen
Originally posted by Edli
Originally posted by didjerama

As i said, intentionaly (needlessly) dragging it out because you know game is severly lacking in content.

I'm doing the same. I didn't do it because the game lacked content, I had no idea how much content it had on endgame when I started lv up several classes at the same time.

I just don't really feel the need to be in endgame as soon as possible. There is a game where I'm at too and I'm enjoying it. Endgame will have to wait, is not going anywhere anyway. 

Well now that's just a big fat lie. didjerama knows the truth and the truth is we are so afraid of running out of content at the level cap we desperately cling to the lower levels "needlessly". It doesn't matter that we feel every level is equal, that's just us lying to ourselves.

I hope you can find it in you to stop fooling yourself, too, and start accepting the Jesu....didjerama as your one and only savior.

You might as well afk in some hub and "take your time". It would amount the same.

Did i hit the nerve there or sumtin? Chill out bro

You are rejecting my feelings about the game (as if they weren't real) and trying to shoehorn your own ideals down my throat. In two sentence replies nonetheless.

I'm not intentionally dragging out the game because I "know" the game is severely lacking in content. I already explained this to you. Whatcha gonna do next, tell me once again I don't know what I'm doing?

Some serious internet Freud do we have here.

 

FF:ARR FATE grinding: People not having fun by doing something not actually intended to get to a point that doesn't really matter as fast as possible. Just so they can do the same thing over and over again to gain a piece of virtual loot.

  Hyanmen

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10/23/13 8:17:41 AM#120
Originally posted by didjerama

Uh-huh. He is ranting, not laughing. By the way he describes it every MMO has infinite content because you can afk in a hub and just say "im taking my time". Yes, its absolute truth, its a fact.

Its also a fact most people dont want to "take their time" (especially if that "taking time" actually cost them money) and actually play the game and run out of things to do very fast. So yes, delaying the inevitable is delaying the inevitable.

You can be a lamb and support such game. Most wont.

Here we go. didjerama once again telling us what I'm doing, what I truly mean by what I say  -  now all we need is him to start diagnosing me with daddy issues and hidden sexual frustrations to close the circle. That's only possible because He knows me better than I do!

It is not only me that he can speak for, as it is actually on behalf of "most people" that he can say these things. That is because in reality he knows what not only me but what everyone else want or don't want to do.

 

FF:ARR FATE grinding: People not having fun by doing something not actually intended to get to a point that doesn't really matter as fast as possible. Just so they can do the same thing over and over again to gain a piece of virtual loot.

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