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  Arglebargle

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10/17/13 2:59:48 PM#41

The last, overlong, console generation has a bit of influence here.   Many games are targetted at 6+ year old technology.  PCs of a modest stripe can handle them.  Not nearly as much pressure to upgrade.   A new generation of consoles will raise the bar some.   As an example, in the next couple of years you will see serious multi-threading becoming the norm. 

 

Given the major backers of the two standard consoles desires to run them for another five years, this effect will only be active for a short time though.   Scalability increases may help here.

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10/17/13 4:16:34 PM#42
This topic got me to thinking, time for a new gaming laptop.

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  Reklaw

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10/17/13 4:33:14 PM#43
Originally posted by Atrocitus

Massive declining sells of the PC are making news articles columns. The death throes of the pc are in full effect

as the smart phone and tablets take the vacated throne.

 

 

Will this switch effect MMO gamers? Is buying a gaming PC going to become difficult?

 

 

 

 Nvidia and AMD say NO to this. Just look what's ahead.

Sure it might become harder to buy games in stores because most gamestores have slim downed their PC games section.

Yet we can not ignore the amount of pc games that can be digitaly bought.

Sure the PC might once again became either businness used or for the actuall PC gamer who wants graphics and gameplay to go deeper then what "could" be done on console's. Thought the next gen console do come close to yesterday's(2 years ago)  high end pc system.

There still be gamers (like me) who want to be visually blown away by next gen graphics and console still are not reaching that of what tommorow generations of gaming systems can achieve.

For those of you who have been with consoles the next gen might blow you way visually just like they did 2 years ago on high end pc systems. But while they might be a decline in live store sales I bet most do not count digital purchases or just think about how succesfull Steam is which is just one example. And just look at the SteamBox, which will still be a PC centered gaming system yet with the possibilty to stream and play the games of your pc in your living room. I think they are on to something. Mainly because I know there are people who will never touch a console but might at the same time enjoy just hanging out with friends on the couch playing some games.

I do believe we will see more MMO's on the PS4 and XBOne so we might aswell already get use to that.

  satanoclause

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10/17/13 6:51:11 PM#44
The new consoles are pc's... lol...

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  Classicstar

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10/17/13 7:01:45 PM#45

Do you realy think that pc gamers sitting in there dungeon suddenly all going to play on smartphone or tablet?

Don't think so.

But the decline is true mainly for mainstream who eather go console or there phones and tablets.

Yes its little harder getting parts now i see some shops i always buy my parts shrinking in diversity and have maybe 10 differetnt AMD cards and 20 nvidia cards or only few memory and highend suffers like corsairs ddr 3 platinum series suddely few shops i normally go dont have them anymore.

I dunno what future brings but im bit worried also.

We can see eather decline or maybe a rise of pc's if this is good its hard to tell?

Rise is if the new approach AMD(very aggresive approach indeed) introduce mantle if succes this could repeat history with GLIDE in 90's and nvidia plus intel will lose major but this is still speculation we will see what AMD say in NOVEMBER when they reveal there plans with MANTEL.

Microsoft is btw helping alot in decline of PC with windows 8 and not support win7 with DirectX and if XP dies they start fast destroying win7 also you eather go win8 or consoles or MS say screw you.

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  NightBandit

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10/17/13 7:13:27 PM#46
Originally posted by Atrocitus

Massive declining sells of the PC are making news articles columns. The death throes of the pc are in full effect

as the smart phone and tablets take the vacated throne.

 

 

Will this switch effect MMO gamers? Is buying a gaming PC going to become difficult?

 

 

 

Dude that might be the case over the pond in the US but we aint falling for this buy our smart phone tablet shit over here. I would of thought it was pretty oblivious with the newer consoles going down the lets make them like a PC route that the PC is here to stay and grow larger because it has the self build and power gamers want and need. Also people like me build our own mega over clocked toys which you aint getting in no slim crap handset.

Also people are getting savvy to the high street shops selling them piles of crap for loads of $$'s that's they throw away in 12 months time or never get used and a re passed on the whoever wants them.  TAKE it from me the PC aint dying sunshine.

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  Thorqemada

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10/17/13 7:16:32 PM#47


Originally posted by Atrocitus
Massive declining sells of the PC are making news articles columns. The death throes of the pc are in full effect

as the smart phone and tablets take the vacated throne.

 

 

Will this switch effect MMO gamers? Is buying a gaming PC going to become difficult?

 

 

 


The Performance Level of my PC is probably 3 times that of one of the new Consoles.
No game really uses this power for more gameplay, only some overdone visuals.
I dont plan to buy a PC the next 5 years, maybe even 10 years.
I could play most of my good games with an PC that is 7 years old only upgrading the GPU to the Level of those that were released 2 Generations ago...

Lower sales dont mean a lower base of installed PCs, it only means a slower growth!

PS: I expect Consoles to become restrictive PCs in the future...they be already based on PC tech...Consoleros may claim a Win but in reality they only have a restricted PC in their house.

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  donpopuki

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10/17/13 7:19:38 PM#48
The Razor Oculus and IPad X will be the future of MMOs.
  Thorqemada

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10/17/13 7:20:42 PM#49

Delete this pls for double posting

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  Ridelynn

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10/17/13 7:26:16 PM#50

I wonder how much of the decline in PC sales is due to the fact that they have been mostly "fast enough" for the past few years.

  Skullagrim

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10/17/13 7:31:58 PM#51

MMO's is a very strong market. PC gaming is not going anywhere.

I built my pc almost a year ago. My hardware is better than the next gen consoles. Just sucks I have to wait for developers to get up to speed. lol

Probably will upgrade my graphic card to a 6g next year. Some people are car people, but my baby is my pc. :)

  aRtFuLThinG

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10/17/13 7:47:40 PM#52
Originally posted by Ozimandeus

With things like Steambox and Steam controllers on the horizon, with Oculus Rift and crap loads of innovative stuff coming on the horizon, the likely victims will be the consoles over the next 5 years.

^ This.

 

Consoles are the actual dying breed here - this is because tablets and smartphones can easily replace the type of gaming that console provides. And even if they can't (because of the type of controller/peripherals), PC could've easily took care of that.

 

Thus consoles basically and other such proprietary OS devices that are exclusively developed for gaming have no reason to exist anymore. They can easily be replaced by devices that uses open OS platforms (such as android) or already existing multi-purpose proprietary OS platforms (such as Windows or Mac).

 

Console therefore IS the dying breed, not PC.

  Hardanger

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10/17/13 7:50:40 PM#53

what

 

 

 

 

 

ever

  cyrician

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10/18/13 4:57:50 AM#54

Meh what rubbish ...

 

 

 I have heard for years the decline of the P.C

 

This will never happen.....

 

people are just making their own.

 

Long live the P.C 

 

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  Quizzical

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10/18/13 6:00:01 AM#55

The decline in PC sales is because most people who need a desktop already have one and don't feel the need to upgrade it.  Desktops often last a long time.  Smartphones and tablets, not so much.

  Baowoulf

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10/18/13 4:12:11 PM#56

I have to disagree with consoles being the ones dying. There are some games I think are better on consoles just like some games are better on PC.

 

I prefer FPS on the PC but platforms on the console for one. While a mouse and a keyboard are great and I prefer them for a FPS game. A controller is much better for me at least when say playing a platformer. Also I know you can connect a controller to a PC but it still isn't the same in my opinion. The feel of it just is better on a console just like with a PC and FPS games. Obviously there are exceptions thou. I liked playing the Halo and Resistance series of games.

 

The main threat is like happened to Nintendo and the Wii. Nintendo had a good hardcore base with the solid games it had on the SNES/N64/GC but then it seemed like they totally forgot about their hardcore base. They may have fixed it later on but I actually forgot they were around after being a fan of theirs having tons of systems and handhelds.

 

If something does happen it will come from within. Tablets, smartphones pfft they aren't PC's and consoles.

  daltanious

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10/19/13 4:45:43 AM#57
Originally posted by Atrocitus

Massive declining sells of the PC are making news articles columns. The death throes of the pc are in full effect

as the smart phone and tablets take the vacated throne.

  

Will this switch effect MMO gamers? Is buying a gaming PC going to become difficult?

  

"Massive decline" in sells of PCs is mith that will not happen. Never ever will that silly tablets, smart phones, .... replace 22" monitors with good pc.

  Purutzil

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10/19/13 4:58:35 AM#58

I feel the 'decline' is mostly those not very tech savy grabbing the tablets/smart phones and it being enough for them. PC gaming as far as I know is actually on the rise (granted maybe I'm talking out my rear end). As mentioned, its less that people aren't having pcs at all as much as more people become tech savvy and are able to 'fix' their own computers easier. I'm sure big companies like dell and hp are losing business as people learn better their systems are generally overpriced and bloated, leading the chance for other businesses to prop up and take sales from them.

 

Over-all, I just don't see a decline, just an improvement on how much people know about computers. Sure, mobile gaming is rising rapidly, but PC is no where near a decline, if anything I'd say consoles are currently hurting the most.

  soratta

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10/21/13 1:32:44 AM#59
Originally posted by Purutzil

I feel the 'decline' is mostly those not very tech savy grabbing the tablets/smart phones and it being enough for them. PC gaming as far as I know is actually on the rise (granted maybe I'm talking out my rear end). 

I second this part. Prior to the rise of smartphones/tablets, people could only turn to PCs for e-mail, surfing, internet (pre-wifi days), and would have to buy them regardless of how tech-savvy they were. Even then, the people who bothered to upgrade or modify their PCs were the tech-savvy and/or businesses. They might just be comparing PC sales versus that of the increase of smartphone/tablet sales and just went ahead and said that "PC is dying" when it honestly isn't, for reasons already mentioned before.

 

It just happened that the people who didn't truly need the full spectrum of PC usage can opt for something else that meets their wants/needs.

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10/21/13 1:48:16 AM#60
nVidia, AMD, Oculus Rift, and Steam Machines/OS/Controllers are going to blow the roof off this mutha. 2014 is going to be a very interesting (awesome) year for PC gamers. This is the first time I haven't been excited for a new console gen, and IOS/Android games might catch the casuals on the go, but nothing will kill the PC this coming year. Nothing.

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