Trending Games | WildStar | Elder Scrolls Online | ArcheAge | Guild Wars 2

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,645,855 Users Online:0
Games:687  Posts:6,084,930
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Deco Online Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Everquest Next: Landmark Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Lands of Hope: Phoenix Edition LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Project Blackout Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Puzzle Pirates Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian Space Heroes Universe Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Hammers End The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Total Domination Transformers Universe Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

Elder Scrolls Online

Elder Scrolls Online 

General Discussion  » No free world open PvP, no player looting, no sandbox world, tab aiming = GUARANTEE OF FAILURE

3 Pages « 1 2 3 » Search
59 posts found
  ArzhAngel

Novice Member

Joined: 11/02/04
Posts: 427

10/12/13 7:50:50 AM#21
sounds right
  MMOredfalcon

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/18/13
Posts: 69

10/12/13 7:51:37 AM#22

Really....think I have seen this thread on every discussion for every game on this site.  Alot of games these days fail. Don't have much to do with not being able to gank every noob. Usually several other reasons why a game fails.

And TES was not  bout going out and killing entire towns while in god mode. It was more of the exploring and interaction with the world. 

  vmoped

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/07/04
Posts: 1717

10/12/13 7:52:11 AM#23

I am genuinely curious where the tab targeting is coming from.  When I played the game at convention it was aim to target with tab to soft lock onto a mob so you could continue to focus on one specific mob in a crowd.  The targeting was more like ES than an MMO.  Anyone got any info on this?

Cheers!

MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S

  Ender4

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/18/08
Posts: 2042

10/12/13 8:02:48 AM#24

I was never excited about this game because it always smelled like a money grab. Throw out the same game we've played for years now only leveraging a different IP.

  RebelScum99

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 1127

10/12/13 8:09:09 AM#25
Originally posted by Komandor

 


Yeah, open world PvP games sure do great.

UO did very great. EVE does very great. Minecraft does very great (hurr what are pvp anarchy servers).

 

UO did great because it was the only MMORPG worth playing when it was at its peak.  Eve is a niche title.  And Minecraft isn't an MMORPG.  

And if TESO had the sub numbers that UO did and EVE currently do, it would be labelled an unmitigated failure as well.  

Games with open world PVP and player looting can only ever hope to become niche games at best.  The majority of players don't want to deal with that shit and the type of player that game attracts.  

 

 

  Purutzil

Elite Member

Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 2669

The Critical Hit Pretzel!

10/12/13 8:11:15 AM#26

Cause totally, FF14 was like that and totally flopped...

 

Yeah... no.

 

While i feel it will hurt the game greatly if it DOES play the way the OP is trying to say for the sake that is elder scrolls, it wouldn't likely be enough to kill it off. As much as people say they don't want a game like it, they sure do enjoy it and for good reason. Games don't need that stuff to have fun.  

 

Again, it might not be the best thing in emphasizing the Elder Scrolls franchise (I do feel it should represent the Single player game better) but thinking the way the OP does just kind of shows a sense of being blind and close minded, something that in a way I pitty for that they would close their eyes from anything good in some silly obsession with a game having to be an exact way to 'fit their needs'.

  crasset15

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/12/12
Posts: 137

10/12/13 8:17:31 AM#27
Originally posted by vmoped

I am genuinely curious where the tab targeting is coming from.  When I played the game at convention it was aim to target with tab to soft lock onto a mob so you could continue to focus on one specific mob in a crowd.  The targeting was more like ES than an MMO.  Anyone got any info on this?

Cheers!

 

Did the arrows have physics, did they drop over distance, did you have to aim high to compensate for a distant target, could you shoot at something that was 100 meters away, did the arrows fly in a straight line to the exact spot you aimed at when you shot the arrow, or did the arrows turn to the target if you shot at a moving target but didn't aim where they were at the moment of impact? did you have to manage your arrows?

And you don't need soft lock to focus one mob in a crowd. Worked perfectly fine in skyrim without it.

  Vorthanion

Elite Member

Joined: 7/02/11
Posts: 1829

10/12/13 8:23:44 AM#28
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

This game exists because of the success of skyrim.

It will be nothing like skyrim.

It will fail after the initial hype because there is no reason to play it because there is nothing that will make it special enough to play.

 

They really need to stop making new MMOS until they have the courage to step outside the box.

The success of Skyrim was due primarily to console gamers.  In my book, the best PC versions of the Elder Scrolls series were Daggerfall and Morrowind.  I think the general consensus on this board that PC gamers are hankering for action combat in their RPG games is woefully out of line with reality and I think developers are embracing it in some desperate attempt to draw that steaming pile of console money into the MMO genre at the expense of the less robust and finicky PC crowd.

  MyTabbycat

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/19/12
Posts: 297

10/12/13 9:57:47 AM#29
These types of threads always amuse me because they are based on conjecture.
  bcbully

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 6489

10/12/13 10:10:49 AM#30

1st person view! OWNED OP! OWNED!

 

seriously, for some wild reason, I'm holding on to possible great character customization, combat; there is a block button +1, and Cryodill being wtf amazing.

 

yeah I know :(

  xireaper

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/06/07
Posts: 1

10/12/13 10:11:58 AM#31

I think what the OP is trying to say if TESO isn't played the rest of the TES franchice has been, in terms of game mechanics, many fans of the TES franchise will be disapointed. If it plays like 99% of the MMO's I for one, will be disapointed. TES is always about open world freedom, doing what you want on your own terms, and being able to actually take time to aim using a bow, and manual block, and melee. 

I'm sure anyone who enjoys TES can agree if TESO is made like WoW it'll feel like a HUGE letdown. We all know it would be awesome to play Skyrim with your friends. Obviously one can't expect that on a large scale MMO platform, but the core game mechanics of TES should be consistent.

What the OP should be aware of though, without actual proof, you're mainly assuming. I for one, still hoping it to expect it to live up to the TES franchice

  Omali

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/16/09
Posts: 1061

10/12/13 10:50:06 AM#32
The Elder Scrolls also has never been about PvP, or online at all for that matter. So by that virtue, there is absolutely no way that Elder Scrolls Online can accurately follow established gameplay.

  syriinx

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/24/13
Posts: 496

10/12/13 11:00:34 AM#33
Originally posted by Vorthanion
 I think the general consensus on this board that PC gamers are hankering for action combat in their RPG games is woefully out of line with reality 

This.

I really don't think there is a big demand for action combat in MMORPGs.

  syriinx

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/24/13
Posts: 496

10/12/13 11:01:35 AM#34
Also, elder scroll games have always been good in spite of their combat, not because of it.  Combat is quite easily the weakest part of Skyrim.
  Rattenmann

Elite Member

Joined: 12/08/05
Posts: 256

10/12/13 11:09:01 AM#35

Not quite sure why tab-aiming is considered bad.

 

I for one dislike hack and slash games where i only spam my "autoattack" key over and over. Quite happy if i tab-target something, autoattack is an autoattack (duh!) and i can use my brain to choose from 40+ (usefull) skills to get the fight over with more successfully.

 

Sadly those times are over... most games now prefer action combat with a max of 8 skills. It feels so dumbed down, not even funny.

MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.

Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?

  Stimz

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/03/12
Posts: 63

10/12/13 11:12:31 AM#36
but.,..its not tab targeting..its like skyrim.

  Vapors

Elite Member

Joined: 1/16/10
Posts: 336

10/12/13 11:17:35 AM#37
Originally posted by Amjoco
Every time I play Skyrim I think, "I wish I could play with friends". No matter what happens, if I can play an ES game with a friend, they will have succeeded. Why does this site and it's fans pick things to death, and doom them to failure before they even come out?

because they always do it to any game?

and to the OP, open world pvp with player looting is such a niche, making a game with having this feature would take away the bigger amount of players away. I love this feature aswell but we PvP'ers HAS to admit that this feature is NOT popular and maybe never will be.

  Iceman8235

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/28/04
Posts: 122

10/12/13 11:40:25 AM#38
Is the game going to have a frontier style area ala DAoC and some kind of PvP progression?  If so, that's all it would really take for me to give it a try.
  Ikisis

Novice Member

Joined: 1/23/09
Posts: 287

10/12/13 11:43:13 AM#39
Originally posted by Vrika

So is your claim

a) No game can succeed unless it has at least on of the features you listed, or

b) Elder Scrolls IP will make the game worse, and because of that it's certain to fail where other games have succeeded

The things he listed are all things that are actually different, The formula TESO is following is the same old same old we have been seeing for well over 10 years now.


Full Loot PvP http://lifeisfeudal.com/ Next Generation Sandbox MMORPG

  artemisentr4

Elite Member

Joined: 12/25/08
Posts: 1410

10/12/13 12:16:32 PM#40

The OP is the perfect example of why all open PvP player looting games fail. Even EvE is a failure using the OP logic. I don't like it so it is a failed game.

 

 

“How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?”
R.A.Salvatore

3 Pages « 1 2 3 » Search