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  Quizzical

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OP  10/08/13 4:24:07 PM#1

AMD is launching seven "new" cards shortly for a new generation of hardware.  Two are genuinely new cards, two are retail versions of cards that had previously been OEM-only, and three are new bins of old GPU chips.

The two genuinely new cards are the Radeon R9 290X and Radeon R9 290, both based on AMD's Hawaii chip.  The cards aren't out yet, and are still under NDA, so we don't know the details.  However, we do know that these are to compete against Nvidia's GK110 chip, i.e., Titan and GTX 780.

The Radeon R9 280X is the Tahiti GPU chip, and this time clocked higher than the old Radeon HD 7970, but lower than a Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition.  The Radeon R9 270X is Pitcairn, and basically a higher clocked Radeon HD 7870.  The Radeon R7 260X is Bonaire, and basically a higher clocked Radeon HD 7790 with 2 GB of video memory.

At the low end, we have the Radeon R7 250 and Radeon R7 240, both based on an Oland chip that was previously OEM-only.  This is to be AMD's new low end, and the cards are $90 and $70, respectively.  Both will have both a 1 GB GDDR5 version and a 2 GB DDR3 version; the latter exists only to give the clueless people who think that more video memory is the primary determinant of how good a video card is an AMD product to buy.

Hawaii is the most interesting launch, as we'll get to see if AMD can challenge Nvidia at the high end.  But the low end cards mean that $70 budget gaming cards with the latest and greatest architecture should be on the way, and that's also a welcome addition to the lineup.

The most interesting new feature is that the cards will now have the built-in capability to run three monitors without needing to use DisplayPort.  Rather, pick any three monitor ports, plug in monitors, and it should just work.  Sapphire had already made some custom cards to do this, but AMD is apparently bringing it to the entire lineup.

  jpnz

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10/08/13 4:35:02 PM#2
Any idea on when we get some benchmarks?

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  Quizzical

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OP  10/08/13 4:36:27 PM#3
Benchmarks for the middle three cards are out now, but largely predictable from older bins of the same chips.  For Hawaii, it's probably coming next week.  Rumors say October 15.
  skyline385

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10/08/13 4:36:39 PM#4

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_r7_260x_r9_270x_280x_review_benchmarks,1.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/722-radeon-r9-270x-r7-260x/page10.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-280x-r9-270x-r7-260x,3635-9.html

Benchmarks, reviews of all 3 cards

Sadly, it's just old cards at a new name and a price difference. No technology jumping performance increase as far as i see. But the price drop is a bit welcoming though.

  Ridelynn

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10/08/13 6:35:40 PM#5

*yawn*

The only news is here that there is no new news.

  Odinthedark1

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10/08/13 6:54:03 PM#6
Yea... the cards themselves might be good...but ever since i ditched my 6870's due to Catalyst Control Center NEVER working, i decided to stick with Nvidia =/  still waiting on that Titan/780 price drop even if only a couple hundred...maybe we will see nvidia push their cards even further than the Titan now.
  Ridelynn

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10/08/13 7:07:42 PM#7


Originally posted by Odinthedark1
Yea... the cards themselves might be good...but ever since i ditched my 6870's due to Catalyst Control Center NEVER working, i decided to stick with Nvidia =/  still waiting on that Titan/780 price drop even if only a couple hundred...maybe we will see nvidia push their cards even further than the Titan now.

Funny, everyone else can get CCC to work just fine.

  Odinthedark1

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"A fool learns from his own mistakes, a wise man learns from the mistakes of others."

10/09/13 2:05:47 PM#8
Originally posted by Ridelynn

 


Originally posted by Odinthedark1
Yea... the cards themselves might be good...but ever since i ditched my 6870's due to Catalyst Control Center NEVER working, i decided to stick with Nvidia =/  still waiting on that Titan/780 price drop even if only a couple hundred...maybe we will see nvidia push their cards even further than the Titan now.

 

Funny, everyone else can get CCC to work just fine.

IKR, i tried everything to fix it possible browsing google for, no joke, 6 hours straight...i think its possible my Windows 7 was corrupt as well as my .NET framework, it started after i updated my drivers, no matter how many times i launched CCC it wouldn't pop up. The funny thing is when i popped in my nvidia card nvidia control panel worked just fine...i've never seen anyone have that issue that couldn't fix it in all the forums i've looked up....but that frustration is in the past. Still that explanation is only gonna derail the topic, i really hope Nvidia does something to counter this soon, gotta love capitalism and competition.

TL:DR;  CCC may work for everyone else, but didn't for me. Hoping to see what nvidia does next.

  Classicstar

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10/11/13 5:06:04 AM#9

Only one im interested in is 290x and with future support hopefully for mantle this card will top notch if the price is also reasonable priced.

Mantle if succes will bring AMD radeon to top as best fastest cards.

And offorse prolly super easy to port all consolegames to pc if mantle is supported like frostbite 3 with Battlefield 4.

Exciting times in common months im looking forward to all those benchmarks AMD kicking nvidia's ASS:p(HOPEFULLY)

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  Jockan

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10/11/13 4:34:56 PM#10
Only thing I am waiting on is for the 7970 GHZ to drop just a little more so I can get another for Xfire.

  aspekx

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10/11/13 4:47:27 PM#11
any thoughts on how the R290x will compare with my 7870? christmas is coming i might be able to squeeze an upgrade out of it :)

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  Quizzical

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OP  10/11/13 4:49:55 PM#12
Originally posted by aspekx
any thoughts on how the R290x will compare with my 7870? christmas is coming i might be able to squeeze an upgrade out of it :)

The R9 270X is basically a 7870 clocked a little higher.  I'd expect the R9 290X to roughly double its performance.

  aspekx

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10/11/13 4:52:11 PM#13
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by aspekx
any thoughts on how the R290x will compare with my 7870? christmas is coming i might be able to squeeze an upgrade out of it :)

The R9 270X is basically a 7870 clocked a little higher.  I'd expect the R9 290X to roughly double its performance.

thanks, much appreciated.

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One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
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  Ridelynn

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10/11/13 5:42:39 PM#14


Originally posted by VastoHorde
Only thing I am waiting on is for the 7970 GHZ to drop just a little more so I can get another for Xfire.

The R9 280X will crossfire with it (unsurprisingly, since they are the same cards). So I guess whichever one you can find for less cash.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/radeon-r9-280x-radeon-hd-7970-crossfire-compatible,24619.html

  Jockan

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10/11/13 9:35:49 PM#15
Originally posted by Ridelynn

 


Originally posted by VastoHorde
Only thing I am waiting on is for the 7970 GHZ to drop just a little more so I can get another for Xfire.

 

The R9 280X will crossfire with it (unsurprisingly, since they are the same cards). So I guess whichever one you can find for less cash.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/radeon-r9-280x-radeon-hd-7970-crossfire-compatible,24619.html

 

Interesting

  CowboyHat

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10/12/13 12:16:34 AM#16
Originally posted by Ridelynn

 


Originally posted by VastoHorde
Only thing I am waiting on is for the 7970 GHZ to drop just a little more so I can get another for Xfire.

 

The R9 280X will crossfire with it (unsurprisingly, since they are the same cards). So I guess whichever one you can find for less cash.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/radeon-r9-280x-radeon-hd-7970-crossfire-compatible,24619.html

Will it xfire with a 7950? It's Tahiti as well. I think....