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  SNAFUdamus

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OP  10/07/13 8:28:18 AM#1

What is going to make this game different  than every other MMO out there. I mean, we now have classes in a game they promised would be skill based.

Now I hear that the combat will be target based and not based on AIMING? Really, so this is just another in a VERY long line of MMOs where all you do in combat is spam the TAB KEY, find a target then SPAM skill keys until the target is dead? in 2013 copying other MMOs is STILL all game companies know how to do?

What happened to aiming?

What happened to ACTIVE BLOCKING?

 

 

What is different about ESO now? It looks to me like it is just another WoW, SWToR, or pick what ever garden variety game that requires zero skill to play.

The more I read about the game the more disheartened with it I become.

  tom_gore

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10/07/13 8:29:52 AM#2
Because it looks like only SOE can make FPS mechanics work in an MMO (and Aventurine, sort of).
  Ender4

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10/07/13 8:33:51 AM#3

Well all of the aiming combat MMOs have been pretty bad and the combat systems haven't really worked all that well once you really dig into them. GW2 probably has the best setup, some stuff is targeted, some is aimed and if something gets between you and an enemy the targeted stuff will hit them.

Aiming is not an important part of combat anyway, positioning is. If you have to position yourself properly then the system will work.

  TheBigDRC

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I popped too many blood vessels to give a damn anymore.

10/07/13 8:43:11 AM#4

So you're going on something you've heard rather than seen, huh?

I wouldn't give it much merit at all. That's how needless panic and stupid actions rise is from the furor of a crowd that takes baseless information and uses it as a weapon.

Just wait until we actually SEE something concrete to discern for ourselves.

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  pierth

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10/07/13 8:57:18 AM#5

Are they really adding tab targetting? I may have to give this a try.

Any chance of adding editable macros such as Rift?

  Shaigh

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Joined: 3/07/13
Posts: 337

10/07/13 9:12:30 AM#6
Originally posted by SNAFUdamus

What is going to make this game different  than every other MMO out there. I mean, we now have classes in a game they promised would be skill based.

Now I hear that the combat will be target based and not based on AIMING? Really, so this is just another in a VERY long line of MMOs where all you do in combat is spam the TAB KEY, find a target then SPAM skill keys until the target is dead? in 2013 copying other MMOs is STILL all game companies know how to do?

What happened to aiming?

What happened to ACTIVE BLOCKING?

 

 

What is different about ESO now? It looks to me like it is just another WoW, SWToR, or pick what ever garden variety game that requires zero skill to play.

The more I read about the game the more disheartened with it I become.

You have to aim attacks.Tab key allows you to attack one mob in a crowd.

  DeniZg

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Joined: 1/29/12
Posts: 582

10/07/13 9:53:22 AM#7

My interest in this game has dropped substantially after the reveal of their combat targetting system.

However, after several leaks and discussions on certain web sites, I've realized that their combat system is the most similar to Neverwinter Online, which I actually enjoyed the most out of any MMO.

In Neverwinter, you have to manually aim, but you don't have to be extremely precise, you just have to aim close to your target, otherwise, the skill will not fire. 

Granted, it's not cool and skill based as Wildstar aiming system, but it's definitely not tab-targeting.

  cnutemp

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Joined: 7/01/12
Posts: 239

10/07/13 9:59:17 AM#8
Originally posted by SNAFUdamus

What is going to make this game different  than every other MMO out there. I mean, we now have classes in a game they promised would be skill based.

Now I hear that the combat will be target based and not based on AIMING? Really, so this is just another in a VERY long line of MMOs where all you do in combat is spam the TAB KEY, find a target then SPAM skill keys until the target is dead? in 2013 copying other MMOs is STILL all game companies know how to do?

What happened to aiming?

What happened to ACTIVE BLOCKING?

 

 

What is different about ESO now? It looks to me like it is just another WoW, SWToR, or pick what ever garden variety game that requires zero skill to play.

The more I read about the game the more disheartened with it I become.

Source?

  zevni78

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Joined: 12/02/10
Posts: 1125

10/07/13 10:21:30 AM#9

Yes, I've had this confirmed by PAX and beta players, this is "soft" aiming, TES purists will not like it but its a technical limitation, Zeni seem very aware of the limitations of mmos, and rather than try to innovate they compromise.

I guess it won't be that bad once you get used to it, though I know some beta testers that hate it with a passion. It will at least superficially look like TES combat, and may be as immersive for some.

  Tibbz

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Posts: 621

"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a group"

10/07/13 11:16:13 AM#10
Originally posted by zevni78

Yes, I've had this confirmed by PAX and beta players, this is "soft" aiming, TES purists will not like it but its a technical limitation, Zeni seem very aware of the limitations of mmos, and rather than try to innovate they compromise.

I guess it won't be that bad once you get used to it, though I know some beta testers that hate it with a passion. It will at least superficially look like TES combat, and may be as immersive for some.

^ This, kind of a hybrid tab targeting.

We will get a Great Elder Scrolls game, with some additional Generic MMO features..  All good to me .  

  vmoped

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Joined: 3/07/04
Posts: 1722

10/07/13 5:15:26 PM#11
Originally posted by SNAFUdamus

What is going to make this game different  than every other MMO out there. I mean, we now have classes in a game they promised would be skill based.

Now I hear that the combat will be target based and not based on AIMING? Really, so this is just another in a VERY long line of MMOs where all you do in combat is spam the TAB KEY, find a target then SPAM skill keys until the target is dead? in 2013 copying other MMOs is STILL all game companies know how to do?

What happened to aiming?

What happened to ACTIVE BLOCKING?

 

 

What is different about ESO now? It looks to me like it is just another WoW, SWToR, or pick what ever garden variety game that requires zero skill to play.

The more I read about the game the more disheartened with it I become.

 What happened to common sense?

What happened to checking facts?

What happened to not going beserk on the interwebs everytime someone "hears" something?

There is no tab targeting, only soft locking.  You still actively aim, you still actively block.

MMO Vet since AOL Neverwinter Nights circa 1992. My MMO beat up your MMO. =S

  keithian

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Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 3029

10/07/13 5:44:44 PM#12

To help educate the original poster or anyone else that panics from what was written, here is how the targeting works which I think is a very healthy compromise between the single player game and the reality of placing balanced combat in an MMO for all skill types..especially since targeting in PVP or situations in PVE will be more complex due to the # of characters on the screen at once which was rarely if ever an issue with the single player games. Source is Tamriel Foundry.

There are two targeting systems in ESO. The first is the default system of "soft-lock" targeting which essentially assists the player in aiming attacks and projectiles provided they have their reticle aimed reasonably closely to an enemy player or monster. Allow your reticle to stray too far away from your target, and your attacks will miss altogether. The second targeting system is similar to "tab-targeting", this allows you to focus a specific enemy within a group to manually specify the target of your attacks. An important note with this system is that you are still required to aim your attacks towards your target. The tab locking simply exists to help you specify which enemy out of a crowd of multiple targets is the focus of your attacks.

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  SNAFUdamus

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Joined: 1/26/10
Posts: 60

 
OP  10/09/13 2:16:35 PM#13
Originally posted by vmoped

 What happened to common sense?

What happened to checking facts?

What happened to not going beserk on the interwebs everytime someone "hears" something?

There is no tab targeting, only soft locking.  You still actively aim, you still actively block.

 

Going berserk? Really you think my post was that of a person going berserk?

 

Its tab and spam no matter how you try to justify it.

  thecapitaine

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Posts: 400

10/09/13 2:25:52 PM#14
Originally posted by SNAFUdamus
Originally posted by vmoped

 What happened to common sense?

What happened to checking facts?

What happened to not going beserk on the interwebs everytime someone "hears" something?

There is no tab targeting, only soft locking.  You still actively aim, you still actively block.

 

Going berserk? Really you think my post was that of a person going berserk?

 

Its tab and spam no matter how you try to justify it.

What part of "you still have to aim" are you not understanding? 

  Tuchaka

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Joined: 4/14/10
Posts: 466

10/09/13 2:28:19 PM#15
sad thing about this game is they are basically jamming a great sandbox into  a theme park skin with only lip service being played to actual sandbox ideas and then saying its the best of both worlds which is why i am not gonna play it.
  VincerKaden

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10/09/13 2:39:33 PM#16
Originally posted by Tuchaka
sad thing about this game is they are basically jamming a great sandbox into  a theme park skin with only lip service being played to actual sandbox ideas and then saying its the best of both worlds which is why i am not gonna play it.

I think I'm with you on that. I love the single player games of the genre. But this MMO just isn't getting me excited. There really is no "best of both worlds" when mixing sandbox and themepark. Any ingredient from one pretty much ruins the flavor of the other.

  Mardukk

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10/09/13 2:46:32 PM#17
Originally posted by keithian

To help educate the original poster or anyone else that panics from what was written, here is how the targeting works which I think is a very healthy compromise between the single player game and the reality of placing balanced combat in an MMO for all skill types..especially since targeting in PVP or situations in PVE will be more complex due to the # of characters on the screen at once which was rarely if ever an issue with the single player games. Source is Tamriel Foundry.

There are two targeting systems in ESO. The first is the default system of "soft-lock" targeting which essentially assists the player in aiming attacks and projectiles provided they have their reticle aimed reasonably closely to an enemy player or monster. Allow your reticle to stray too far away from your target, and your attacks will miss altogether. The second targeting system is similar to "tab-targeting", this allows you to focus a specific enemy within a group to manually specify the target of your attacks. An important note with this system is that you are still required to aim your attacks towards your target. The tab locking simply exists to help you specify which enemy out of a crowd of multiple targets is the focus of your attacks.

It all depends on what their definition of reasonably close is.  If they mean in the general direction it will still suck.  If they mean really close that would be ok...imo.  

What does aiming have to do with balance?  Are we too concerned that some people won't be able to aim?

  bcbully

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10/09/13 2:49:23 PM#18
doesn't matter either way to me, as long as there is an active block button. It seems so silly now for all those years I've been pvpn without being able to block an attack I see coming to me.
  iJustWant

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10/09/13 2:52:50 PM#19

I heard on Fox News that someone said that they overheard someone else say that they think some people say the sky is falling.

 

Therefore, ESO must have tab targeting, and is doomed to fail.

 

  keithian

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10/09/13 3:15:38 PM#20
Originally posted by Mardukk
Originally posted by keithian

To help educate the original poster or anyone else that panics from what was written, here is how the targeting works which I think is a very healthy compromise between the single player game and the reality of placing balanced combat in an MMO for all skill types..especially since targeting in PVP or situations in PVE will be more complex due to the # of characters on the screen at once which was rarely if ever an issue with the single player games. Source is Tamriel Foundry.

There are two targeting systems in ESO. The first is the default system of "soft-lock" targeting which essentially assists the player in aiming attacks and projectiles provided they have their reticle aimed reasonably closely to an enemy player or monster. Allow your reticle to stray too far away from your target, and your attacks will miss altogether. The second targeting system is similar to "tab-targeting", this allows you to focus a specific enemy within a group to manually specify the target of your attacks. An important note with this system is that you are still required to aim your attacks towards your target. The tab locking simply exists to help you specify which enemy out of a crowd of multiple targets is the focus of your attacks.

It all depends on what their definition of reasonably close is.  If they mean in the general direction it will still suck.  If they mean really close that would be ok...imo.  

What does aiming have to do with balance?  Are we too concerned that some people won't be able to aim?

This is just my opinion of course, but I feel after playing Skyrim that melee and stealth classes would have a HUGE advantage over range classes (minus AOE effects) if the exact same aiming system was in this MMO....especially in PVP. Again, just my opinion based on my experiences in the single player games.

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