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  ignore_me

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10/14/13 2:50:01 AM#121
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by ignore_me
Take a picture of Alderaan.

It's way past prime time now and i am not interested in posting screens of each and every planet for you. I posted the one to show his lies; if you wanna see Alderaan or anything else, download and see it yourself.

Oh too bad. I wanted to see how many we could put up. I played a bit on Friday, and though I hate this game I will say there were enough people to group with in the lower level zones. I haven't logged in with any of my 50's because it depresses me.

There are enough people everywhere. I play on Red Eclipse EU (Ebon Hawk just has some of the trial characters i created to see the community) and there were like 200 people on Alderaan during Red Eclipse Standard load last night. Groups can be formed almost instantly.

I'm going to take your word for it.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  skyline385

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Posts: 601

10/14/13 2:53:59 AM#122
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by ignore_me
Take a picture of Alderaan.

It's way past prime time now and i am not interested in posting screens of each and every planet for you. I posted the one to show his lies; if you wanna see Alderaan or anything else, download and see it yourself.

Oh too bad. I wanted to see how many we could put up. I played a bit on Friday, and though I hate this game I will say there were enough people to group with in the lower level zones. I haven't logged in with any of my 50's because it depresses me.

There are enough people everywhere. I play on Red Eclipse EU (Ebon Hawk just has some of the trial characters i created to see the community) and there were like 200 people on Alderaan during Red Eclipse Standard load last night. Groups can be formed almost instantly.

I'm going to take your word for it.

If you want it as in a serious manner and not just for the sake of hating excuses like many people here, i will post one later when it goes prime-time, right now it's in Light. The only reason i am here is because my office decided to have a holiday today, no complaints from me.

  ignore_me

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10/14/13 3:01:40 AM#123
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by ignore_me
Take a picture of Alderaan.

It's way past prime time now and i am not interested in posting screens of each and every planet for you. I posted the one to show his lies; if you wanna see Alderaan or anything else, download and see it yourself.

Oh too bad. I wanted to see how many we could put up. I played a bit on Friday, and though I hate this game I will say there were enough people to group with in the lower level zones. I haven't logged in with any of my 50's because it depresses me.

There are enough people everywhere. I play on Red Eclipse EU (Ebon Hawk just has some of the trial characters i created to see the community) and there were like 200 people on Alderaan during Red Eclipse Standard load last night. Groups can be formed almost instantly.

I'm going to take your word for it.

If you want it as in a serious manner and not just for the sake of hating excuses like many people here, i will post one later when it goes prime-time, right now it's in Light. The only reason i am here is because my office decided to have a holiday today, no complaints from me.

No, if there are people populating the servers throughout the level ranges then it's not an issue for the game. Generally SWTOR's strength is considered it's leveling up to 50, so if you can group for dungeons during that span it means there is viable population.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  Hatefull

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Joined: 6/09/04
Posts: 772

Your tears make my gun work better.

10/14/13 3:18:01 AM#124


Originally posted by skyline385

Originally posted by gamekid2k Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?
It's doing extremely well with tons or people and regular updates. Don't mind the haters here and see it for yourself. I even created this thread to get this rid of some of the false presumptions of the game because i simply hate people who hate hard-working devs over lies.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/397350



funny how you want to say it is doing 'extremely well' yet post no facts to back that up.

As of 0300 EST 14 Oct 2013, there are 8 U.S Servers. 5 East coast and 3 West coast.

East coast:

2 - PvE Servers
1 - RP-PvP
1 - PvP
1 - RP

West coast

1 - PvP
1 - RP
1 - PvE

Europe has 9 servers, 3 English, 3 Deutsche, and 3 French.

I recently started back on a East Coast PvE server and thus far it has been all right. Not to bad on queue times (I play a tank so take that with a grain of salt) and finding groups for heroics isn't to bad either. I made toons on all the U.S. servers and took them to level 10(ish), almost every server I played on had populated starter area.

My biggest gripe since returning, and I only had this issue on the Republic side (read Jedi 'good guys') of my current server is the community. I found it near impossible to get any sort of help/advice without dealing with a never ending stream of jackasses. So after a week I went over to the Dark side and have had very few issues along those lines. Not sure what is wrong with the 'light side' on my server, but it was pretty bad.

The game itself is fun, it is not nor will it ever be SWG 2, and yes there is still a mind boggling amount of cut scenes and crap to wade through. However I am finding it fun nonetheless.

PvP - The limited amount I have done is still just a boring CC fest, and imo one of the worst designed systems in MMO's, however it does seem very popular and it may be missing something. But my experience (less than 100 matches) is being chain CC'd or chain CC'ing someone until they die. Yawn fest.

The PvE stuff is fun, some of it I find refreshing, and I can say I really believe this game is worth a 2nd look. I just went into it expecting SWTOR and not something else and thus far I have not been let down.

The F2P version of this game is purely designed to make you spend money or just subscribe. Spoiler alert: it is far cheaper to just subscribe (short term any way) than it is to try and but all the basic account unlocks you will want for convenient gaming. You can however, go through the entire game for free it is just an enormous pain in the ass.

TL:DR version.

The game is going fine, it seems to be stabilized at a nice healthy player base, and I don't think anyone starting or coming back will be disappointed.

If you want a new idea, go read an old book.

  ownprocess

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Joined: 9/06/11
Posts: 20

10/14/13 4:47:40 AM#125

Just to put my two penneth in. I purchased the game at launch & got to level 39 with my Sith Assassin, then due to various reasons I stopped playing. I find that with a lot of mmo's tbh, I enjoy it initially but then things start to get repetitive and I lose interest.

Anyway, I had never uninstalled and have recently started playing the game again, creating a new character on red eclipse, and thus far I'm really enjoying being back. I've even become a subscriber again for a few months.  I've found the population to be pretty solid. I've not struggled finding people to do flashpoints, or heroic missions, and I'm enjoying the story again. I'm looking forward to finally reaching max level and trying some of the new content.

I'm sure there's plenty people who will, like me, step back in and enjoy themselves. 

  jpnz

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Joined: 6/29/06
Posts: 3565

10/14/13 5:34:34 AM#126
Originally posted by ignore_me
 

Well if you want to solo Alderaan I guess it's ok if there are like 3 people there. The fleet is a lobby, I was simply giving the other side of the story.

So you went from 'overall population' to 'specific zone population'?

Keep on moving that goal post.

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Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  NightBandit

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Joined: 1/25/07
Posts: 808

Make friends not money, then wealth will follow.

10/14/13 5:54:53 AM#127
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by OdenBlade
Star Wars: The Old Republic should have been Kickstarter project instead.

EA doing a kickstarter, you have to be kidding me?

Made me giggle EA get jack from me they just money grabbers imo.

The Bandit

  daltanious

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Joined: 4/19/08
Posts: 2011

10/15/13 3:25:55 AM#128
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?

It's doing extremely well with tons or people and regular updates. Don't mind the haters here and see it for yourself. I even created this thread to get this rid of some of the false presumptions of the game because i simply hate people who hate hard-working devs over lies.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/397350

Nothing to add. Some people just enjoy their hate (including but not only Swtor). Everyone can have negative opinion, no problem with that, but many have just that sick joy of chasing and spitting all over on games they actually do not play at all.

  User Deleted
10/15/13 3:33:35 AM#129
Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?

It's doing extremely well with tons or people and regular updates. Don't mind the haters here and see it for yourself. I even created this thread to get this rid of some of the false presumptions of the game because i simply hate people who hate hard-working devs over lies.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/397350

Nothing to add. Some people just enjoy their hate (including but not only Swtor). Everyone can have negative opinion, no problem with that, but many have just that sick joy of chasing and spitting all over on games they actually do not play at all.

Negative opinion?

So when people with very facts blamed SWTORs engine for running crap back at open beta/launch they were called haters.

Game tanked and then even James Ohlen blamed huge part of failure on borked engine.

Just one example.

So fanboism is just as bad as hating, even worse, because hate, for whatever it is, points to problems and fanboism points to....nothing at all.

  ignore_me

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Joined: 7/04/11
Posts: 2034

10/15/13 3:51:48 AM#130
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by ignore_me
 

Well if you want to solo Alderaan I guess it's ok if there are like 3 people there. The fleet is a lobby, I was simply giving the other side of the story.

So you went from 'overall population' to 'specific zone population'?

Keep on moving that goal post.

Oh I guess that overall population has no effect on zone population. This is purely about statistics without any practical application for the player?

Overall population includes the zones and the fleet, my location is just as valid as the previous one, unless you were simply out to use the fleet numbers to spin your message.

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  User Deleted
10/15/13 7:47:51 AM#131
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by ignore_me
 

Well if you want to solo Alderaan I guess it's ok if there are like 3 people there. The fleet is a lobby, I was simply giving the other side of the story.

So you went from 'overall population' to 'specific zone population'?

Keep on moving that goal post.

Oh I guess that overall population has no effect on zone population. This is purely about statistics without any practical application for the player?

Overall population includes the zones and the fleet, my location is just as valid as the previous one, unless you were simply out to use the fleet numbers to spin your message.

Dont mind him, he will link EA financial record which doesnt mention SWTORs population in any way.

Population is considerably down from F2P launch, id say its 1/3 of what it was at F2P launch, as everyone that actually plays the game knows.

What is worriying theres no "but but but its summer and vacations" excuse any more and EA has run boatload of promotions lately and major content patch landed recently. And theres no sign of any growth sadly. Maybe space WZ will bring in more people but its sub only till january....dont see it working all that well.

  skyline385

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Joined: 7/09/13
Posts: 601

10/15/13 9:25:54 AM#132

Here is something to think about.

Everyone who is PLAYING THE GAME is agreeing that the population is solid and that the game is doing well.

People who are not at all playing and probably haven't even touched it for over a year are the only ones going on and about how big of a failure the game is. I hope any sensible guy reading this can understand what's going over here.

Also, remember how some of them are also lying about playing and still going on about it's failure and the population, one of whom i proved wrong with my screenshot.

  superniceguy

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10/15/13 9:45:08 AM#133
Originally posted by skyline385

Here is something to think about.

Everyone who is PLAYING THE GAME is agreeing that the population is solid and that the game is doing well.

People who are not at all playing and probably haven't even touched it for over a year are the only ones going on and about how big of a failure the game is. I hope any sensible guy reading this can understand what's going over here.

Also, remember how some of them are also lying about playing and still going on about it's failure and the population, one of whom i proved wrong with my screenshot.

Population being solid (which is still going down as I do play the game on occasion myself and can see it, but as the servers are instanced you see no difference) does not mean the game is doing well. The people have to pay too. There being loads of population is great for playing the game with others, but is not great for the survivability of the game if people are not spending money on the game.

SWTOR is a great game but people do not want to keep paying for it.

"The message from players exiting the game is clear, 40% say they were turned off by the monthly subscription and many indicate they would come back if we offered a free-to-play model," he told analysts, according to a transcript of the conference call provided by the Seeking Alpha financial news site.

If the game was not F2P, I would even subscribe to it every other month, but since it is F2P, there is no need, the percentage of people not paying would have increased, and datanious says he plays with people not paying "I play with players that are playing not paying". How is the game going to survive and be doing well when people are playing for free?

 

  User Deleted
10/15/13 9:50:34 AM#134
Originally posted by skyline385

Here is something to think about.

Everyone who is PLAYING THE GAME is agreeing that the population is solid and that the game is doing well.

People who are not at all playing and probably haven't even touched it for over a year are the only ones going on and about how big of a failure the game is. I hope any sensible guy reading this can understand what's going over here.

Also, remember how some of them are also lying about playing and still going on about it's failure and the population, one of whom i proved wrong with my screenshot.

Population also "stabilized" as of september/october 2012 (before F2P) by EAs words.

It didnt mean it was doing well. How well its doing only EAs accountants know, but usually silence on the matter means.....bad things.

There was never word "profit" associated with "SWTOR" by EA since launch.

  Doogiehowser

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10/15/13 9:55:02 AM#135
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by skyline385

Here is something to think about.

Everyone who is PLAYING THE GAME is agreeing that the population is solid and that the game is doing well.

People who are not at all playing and probably haven't even touched it for over a year are the only ones going on and about how big of a failure the game is. I hope any sensible guy reading this can understand what's going over here.

Also, remember how some of them are also lying about playing and still going on about it's failure and the population, one of whom i proved wrong with my screenshot.

Population also "stabilized" as of september/october 2012 (before F2P) by EAs words.

It didnt mean it was doing well. How well its doing only EAs accountants know, but usually silence on the matter means.....bad things.

There was never word "profit" associated with "SWTOR" by EA since launch.

If you think EA is the kind of company to invest money out of its own pocket in a game without making any profit on it then you really don't know EA.

They don't give a damn and would have shut down SWTOR by now if it wasn't giving them profit. It is EA for God sake only thing they care about is 'profit'.So yeah it is quite possible that game is making EA enough profit to not be shut down.

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  User Deleted
10/15/13 10:02:32 AM#136
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by skyline385

Here is something to think about.

Everyone who is PLAYING THE GAME is agreeing that the population is solid and that the game is doing well.

People who are not at all playing and probably haven't even touched it for over a year are the only ones going on and about how big of a failure the game is. I hope any sensible guy reading this can understand what's going over here.

Also, remember how some of them are also lying about playing and still going on about it's failure and the population, one of whom i proved wrong with my screenshot.

Population also "stabilized" as of september/october 2012 (before F2P) by EAs words.

It didnt mean it was doing well. How well its doing only EAs accountants know, but usually silence on the matter means.....bad things.

There was never word "profit" associated with "SWTOR" by EA since launch.

If you think EA is the kind of company to invest money out of its own pocket in a game without making any profit on it then you really don't know EA.

They don't give a damn and would have shut down SWTOR by now if it wasn't giving them profit. It is EA for God sake only thing they care about is 'profit'.So yeah it is quite possible that game is making EA enough profit to not be shut down.

As i said, only EAs accountants know, maybe they have license that they have to pay big penalties to Disney if they shut down earlier that what they signed for, maybe they want to wait for new movies, maybe they just written off lot of SWOTRs debts and now without those debts its making profit, maybe it really is making profit, maybe maybe maybe.

  daltanious

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/19/08
Posts: 2011

10/15/13 12:06:30 PM#137
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?

It's doing extremely well with tons or people and regular updates. Don't mind the haters here and see it for yourself. I even created this thread to get this rid of some of the false presumptions of the game because i simply hate people who hate hard-working devs over lies.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/397350

Nothing to add. Some people just enjoy their hate (including but not only Swtor). Everyone can have negative opinion, no problem with that, but many have just that sick joy of chasing and spitting all over on games they actually do not play at all.

Negative opinion?

So when people with very facts blamed SWTORs engine for running crap back at open beta/launch they were called haters.

Game tanked and then even James Ohlen blamed huge part of failure on borked engine.

Just one example.

So fanboism is just as bad as hating, even worse, because hate, for whatever it is, points to problems and fanboism points to....nothing at all.

I have only curiosity, have you EVER played at all Swtor? If yes, how long out of nearly 2 years in total?

Btw, "fanboisim" is COMPLETELY UNDESTANDABLE, but hate SI NOT. I never see any problem fanboy prototecting what he/she loves, wondering why hater spend so much time with game (or anything else for that matter) that does not play?

No matter my questions above back to yours last statements. WHO and WHEN blamed and WHICH engine for WHAT?? Have been since day 1 for 7 to 8 months on daily basis (and aprox. 3 months before was even available in my country) AND ENGINE DID MARVELS, no matter how many players around I could play on my 3 years aprox old computer with close to zero lag and all settings on full.

Just one example.

  User Deleted
10/15/13 12:21:36 PM#138
Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?

It's doing extremely well with tons or people and regular updates. Don't mind the haters here and see it for yourself. I even created this thread to get this rid of some of the false presumptions of the game because i simply hate people who hate hard-working devs over lies.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/397350

Nothing to add. Some people just enjoy their hate (including but not only Swtor). Everyone can have negative opinion, no problem with that, but many have just that sick joy of chasing and spitting all over on games they actually do not play at all.

Negative opinion?

So when people with very facts blamed SWTORs engine for running crap back at open beta/launch they were called haters.

Game tanked and then even James Ohlen blamed huge part of failure on borked engine.

Just one example.

So fanboism is just as bad as hating, even worse, because hate, for whatever it is, points to problems and fanboism points to....nothing at all.

I have only curiosity, have you EVER played at all Swtor? If yes, how long out of nearly 2 years in total?

Btw, "fanboisim" is COMPLETELY UNDESTANDABLE, but hate SI NOT. I never see any problem fanboy prototecting what he/she loves, wondering why hater spend so much time with game (or anything else for that matter) that does not play?

No matter my questions above back to yours last statements. WHO and WHEN blamed and WHICH engine for WHAT?? Have been since day 1 for 7 to 8 months on daily basis (and aprox. 3 months before was even available in my country) AND ENGINE DID MARVELS, no matter how many players around I could play on my 3 years aprox old computer with close to zero lag and all settings on full.

Just one example.

Uh-huh, both incarantions of Ilum say hi.

No OWPvP in SWTOR says hi.

Exceptionally low performance for graphic level says hi.

Ability dealy says hi

...

...

...

Slide show is not marvel.

So when James Ohlen says engine is borked you still insist it isnt, Thats whats wrong with fanbois.

Fanboism is not understandable in any concievable way.

  User Deleted
10/16/13 3:50:27 AM#139
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?

It's doing extremely well with tons or people and regular updates. Don't mind the haters here and see it for yourself. I even created this thread to get this rid of some of the false presumptions of the game because i simply hate people who hate hard-working devs over lies.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/397350

Nothing to add. Some people just enjoy their hate (including but not only Swtor). Everyone can have negative opinion, no problem with that, but many have just that sick joy of chasing and spitting all over on games they actually do not play at all.

Negative opinion?

So when people with very facts blamed SWTORs engine for running crap back at open beta/launch they were called haters.

Game tanked and then even James Ohlen blamed huge part of failure on borked engine.

Just one example.

So fanboism is just as bad as hating, even worse, because hate, for whatever it is, points to problems and fanboism points to....nothing at all.

heh great minds think alike ;)

http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/

  skyline385

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/09/13
Posts: 601

10/16/13 4:12:03 AM#140
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by didjerama
Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?

It's doing extremely well with tons or people and regular updates. Don't mind the haters here and see it for yourself. I even created this thread to get this rid of some of the false presumptions of the game because i simply hate people who hate hard-working devs over lies.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/397350

Nothing to add. Some people just enjoy their hate (including but not only Swtor). Everyone can have negative opinion, no problem with that, but many have just that sick joy of chasing and spitting all over on games they actually do not play at all.

Negative opinion?

So when people with very facts blamed SWTORs engine for running crap back at open beta/launch they were called haters.

Game tanked and then even James Ohlen blamed huge part of failure on borked engine.

Just one example.

So fanboism is just as bad as hating, even worse, because hate, for whatever it is, points to problems and fanboism points to....nothing at all.

I have only curiosity, have you EVER played at all Swtor? If yes, how long out of nearly 2 years in total?

Btw, "fanboisim" is COMPLETELY UNDESTANDABLE, but hate SI NOT. I never see any problem fanboy prototecting what he/she loves, wondering why hater spend so much time with game (or anything else for that matter) that does not play?

No matter my questions above back to yours last statements. WHO and WHEN blamed and WHICH engine for WHAT?? Have been since day 1 for 7 to 8 months on daily basis (and aprox. 3 months before was even available in my country) AND ENGINE DID MARVELS, no matter how many players around I could play on my 3 years aprox old computer with close to zero lag and all settings on full.

Just one example.

Uh-huh, both incarantions of Ilum say hi.

No OWPvP in SWTOR says hi.

Exceptionally low performance for graphic level says hi.

Ability dealy says hi

...

...

...

Slide show is not marvel.

So when James Ohlen says engine is borked you still insist it isnt, Thats whats wrong with fanbois.

Fanboism is not understandable in any concievable way.

Ilum failed because of engine issues and everyone admits that, everyone on the official forums also admit that the engine is sub-par.

Open-world PvP exists on tons of planets. This is an example of people not playing the game commenting on its features.

The game was released in 2011 and will obviously not support the wooden computers that WoW could support. My computer with a modest GTX560 runs the game with everything maxed out at 40-60FPS. That is a good enough performance seeing how good it looks at max settings and how old my GPU is.

NO ABILITY DELAY, it has been fixed months ago. I just posted a video here made by myself showing how there is no ability delay. Another prime example of people not playing the game commentating on it.

Fanboy-ism in better than hating. Fanboys comment on the game because they play it and they have first hand experience of current updates within the game. Fanboys also do it just for the sake of defending what they like.

Haters exist only to spread hate. They don't play it and have no idea what's happening in the game. They just keep their experience from a half-hour playthrough from 2 years ago and use it to keep spreading lies and hate about it while insulting the people, who just want to play the game, as well as the developers, who worked hard for it.

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