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  gamekid2k

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OP  10/02/13 12:02:04 AM#1
Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?

Now Playing: DARKFALL Unholy Wars "Return to Open World, Full Loot PvP, Conquest in a Sandbox MMO with player driven economy! Just like classic MMOs!"

  skyline385

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10/02/13 2:15:22 AM#2
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?

It's doing extremely well with tons or people and regular updates. Don't mind the haters here and see it for yourself. I even created this thread to get this rid of some of the false presumptions of the game because i simply hate people who hate hard-working devs over lies.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/397350

  baphamet

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10/02/13 2:20:17 AM#3


Originally posted by skyline385

Originally posted by gamekid2k Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?
It's doing extremely well with tons or people and regular updates. Don't mind the haters here and see it for yourself. I even created this thread to get this rid of some of the false presumptions of the game because i simple hate people who hate hard-working devs over lies.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/397350


^ this and i am not even playing any mmo's right now.

  DavisFlight

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10/02/13 2:50:45 AM#4
Originally posted by baphamet

 


Originally posted by skyline385

Originally posted by gamekid2k Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?
It's doing extremely well with tons or people and regular updates. Don't mind the haters here and see it for yourself. I even created this thread to get this rid of some of the false presumptions of the game because i simple hate people who hate hard-working devs over lies.

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/397350


 

^ this and i am not even playing any mmo's right now.

Then how do you know it's doing well.

 

The truth of the matter is, ever since it went FTP, we haven't had any word from EA about it doing well. Initially a bunch of people registered and their revenue "doubled". Since they haven't announced any new mile stones, its safe to say it's back in decline. It's more stable than it was, but its numbers are not anywhere close to big.

And those hard working devs have already all been fired due to the financial failure that was this game. Though the publishers are to blame.

  yangdude

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10/02/13 3:13:25 AM#5

What's free in this game - isn't almost the whole game inaccessible for the f2p - or an I thinking of LOTRO?

 

EDIT - thanks for below replies.

  DamonVile

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10/02/13 3:18:01 AM#6
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?

It's doing extremely well with tons or people and regular updates. Don't mind the haters here and see it for yourself. I even created this thread to get this rid of some of the false presumptions of the game because i simply hate people who hate hard-working devs over lies.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/397350

 

I have a friend who plays in a regular static group and he often talks about the game. It's funny to see what the haters post here and how wrong they are. They want so much for the game to be failing they'll ignore anything anyone says and embellish any negative story they can find.

  skeaser

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10/02/13 3:20:24 AM#7
Originally posted by yangdude
What's free in this game - isn't almost the whole game inaccessible for the f2p - or an I thinking of LOTRO?

http://www.swtor.com/free/features

 


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  skyline385

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10/02/13 3:24:50 AM#8
Originally posted by yangdude
What's free in this game - isn't almost the whole game inaccessible for the f2p - or an I thinking of LOTRO?

You will not have certain conviniences but you can play the entire game free of cost.

  JudgeUK

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10/02/13 4:14:56 AM#9
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by yangdude
What's free in this game - isn't almost the whole game inaccessible for the f2p - or an I thinking of LOTRO?

You will not have certain conviniences but you can play the entire game free of cost.

I have returned to check out the ftp model. Also playing a couple of other ftp mmo's predominately Rift and Tera.

Swtor's model seems to be a vehicle purely aimed at getting the player to subscribe. The other two, whilst still giving benefits to subscribers, are more standalone ftp models targeted toward cash shop bonus items.

My thoughts are that a good ftp model should be able to operate as an attractive standalone offering, with the cash shop offering a wide variety of commercially attractive bonuses. In this I'd say Rift in particular has got it about right.

However, a ftp model that appears to be set up with more penalties than benefits can do more harm than good.

Why? Because it gives the impression that the ftp player is someone they didn't really want to accommodate, but circumstances have forced their hand.

You can say that this is the case for other games, and you may be right - But, these other games come across as fully accepting the change, welcoming it as an opportunity to re-invigorate their games.

I do not get this feeling with Swtor - in more or less every action, from character creation onward, there are paragraphs telling you that you are penalized, with subscription as the resolution to these penalties.

I feel that a ftp model more aligned with Rift would actually benefit swtor. But whether the developers can change their mindset to truly welcome ftp players - who are going to stay that way - I don't know.

  Aroukos

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10/02/13 4:18:12 AM#10
SWTOR is not f2p by any means. RIFT & TERA yes, but not SWTOR.
  DonVadim

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10/02/13 4:26:21 AM#11
Originally posted by skeaser
Originally posted by yangdude
What's free in this game - isn't almost the whole game inaccessible for the f2p - or an I thinking of LOTRO?

http://www.swtor.com/free/features

 

Seeing this I wonder who would ever want to "play" this game for free. The only answer I can think is a masochist. 

  User Deleted
10/02/13 4:31:36 AM#12

I don't think anyone here can say how well or poorly SWTOR is doing financially with any certainty since we don't have the information. Obvious, isn't it?

 

However, I will say that as long as they are coming out with new content that they must be making enough money to justify doing it. Since they just came out with a new patch, I guess they are not going bankrupt just yet. 

 

I don't like SWTOR. It's not my type of game, though I played it and got one character up to 40. That was enough for me. I had fun till about the mid 30s. That's just so you know, I'm not a fanboy of this game. I have subbed. I don't like their cash shop. I find the game world sterile and depressing.  The world is not open and living enough for me. But that is just me. There are literally gazillions of threads on this. ;)  I can see why other people might like it and I'm glad for them. The more games and choices on the market, the better for all of us.  I don't want to see SWTOR shut down if people are still playing and having fun - just because I don't like it.

 

Basically, if they are still coming out with content, they must be profitable. However you want to define success is up to you, but for people playing and enjoying the game, it's a success. For people working there and developing content for it and having a job they like, it's a success. That's all I need to know.

 

I don't mind a good "what's the population like" thread every now and again, but I need some numbers or else it's just a bunch of speculation.

  skyline385

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10/02/13 4:39:31 AM#13
Originally posted by JudgeUK
Originally posted by skyline385
Originally posted by yangdude
What's free in this game - isn't almost the whole game inaccessible for the f2p - or an I thinking of LOTRO?

You will not have certain conviniences but you can play the entire game free of cost.

I have returned to check out the ftp model. Also playing a couple of other ftp mmo's predominately Rift and Tera.

Swtor's model seems to be a vehicle purely aimed at getting the player to subscribe. The other two, whilst still giving benefits to subscribers, are more standalone ftp models targeted toward cash shop bonus items.

My thoughts are that a good ftp model should be able to operate as an attractive standalone offering, with the cash shop offering a wide variety of commercially attractive bonuses. In this I'd say Rift in particular has got it about right.

However, a ftp model that appears to be set up with more penalties than benefits can do more harm than good.

Why? Because it gives the impression that the ftp player is someone they didn't really want to accommodate, but circumstances have forced their hand.

You can say that this is the case for other games, and you may be right - But, these other games come across as fully accepting the change, welcoming it as an opportunity to re-invigorate their games.

I do not get this feeling with Swtor - in more or less every action, from character creation onward, there are paragraphs telling you that you are penalized, with subscription as the resolution to these penalties.

I feel that a ftp model more aligned with Rift would actually benefit swtor. But whether the developers can change their mindset to truly welcome ftp players - who are going to stay that way - I don't know.

Yea the model is very restricting, but they themselves have said that the model only acts as a demo and they want people to sub. It's really bad as a f2p no doubt in that. But yea, i always sub so it doesn't bother me.

  Aroukos

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10/02/13 4:40:38 AM#14
Originally posted by DonVadim
Originally posted by skeaser
Originally posted by yangdude
What's free in this game - isn't almost the whole game inaccessible for the f2p - or an I thinking of LOTRO?

http://www.swtor.com/free/features

 

Seeing this I wonder who would ever want to "play" this game for free. The only answer I can think is a masochist. 

 

Agree 100%

  skyline385

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10/02/13 4:42:37 AM#15
Originally posted by PWN_FACE

I don't think anyone here can say how well or poorly SWTOR is doing financially with any certainty since we don't have the information. Obvious, isn't it?

 

However, I will say that as long as they are coming out with new content that they must be making enough money to justify doing it. Since they just came out with a new patch, I guess they are not going bankrupt just yet. 

 

I don't like SWTOR. It's not my type of game, though I played it and got one character up to 40. That was enough for me. I had fun till about the mid 30s. That's just so you know, I'm not a fanboy of this game. I have subbed. I don't like their cash shop. I find the game world sterile and depressing.  The world is not open and living enough for me. But that is just me. There are literally gazillions of threads on this. ;)  I can see why other people might like it and I'm glad for them. The more games and choices on the market, the better for all of us.  I don't want to see SWTOR shut down if people are still playing and having fun - just because I don't like it.

 

Basically, if they are still coming out with content, they must be profitable. However you want to define success is up to you, but for people playing and enjoying the game, it's a success. For people working there and developing content for it and having a job they like, it's a success. That's all I need to know.

 

I don't mind a good "what's the population like" thread every now and again, but I need some numbers or else it's just a bunch of speculation.

You can see the population status trend for the last 60 days here.

http://www.torstatus.net/

What Light / Standard / Heavy mean though, no one except BW can say.

  User Deleted
10/02/13 5:41:51 AM#16
Originally posted by gamekid2k
Anyone knows how many active players are currently playing SWToR?  Did f2p caused a big increase?

It did a big increase....at launch of F2P.  There were even some full serevrs.

Nowadays on occasion most populated serevrs sometimes go to heavy. Rest all full time standard.

But what exactly you want to know, 55 PvP WZs on Pubs on most populated EU server pop up in 5-10 mins in prime time.

You can get people to group for daily weeklies (i know its silly) in SX/BH.

I dont bother any more with FPs/OPs but see spam on fleet...but same spam goes on for whole time im there.

  OdenBlade

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10/02/13 6:01:09 AM#17
Star Wars: The Old Republic should have been Kickstarter project instead.
  nerovipus32

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10/02/13 6:10:40 AM#18
Originally posted by skeaser
Originally posted by yangdude
What's free in this game - isn't almost the whole game inaccessible for the f2p - or an I thinking of LOTRO?

http://www.swtor.com/free/features

 

That is probably the worst f2p model i have ever see. Whats the point of playing f2p when you really can't play. You're better off playing a different f2p mmo.

  nerovipus32

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10/02/13 6:11:44 AM#19
Originally posted by OdenBlade
Star Wars: The Old Republic should have been Kickstarter project instead.

EA doing a kickstarter, you have to be kidding me?

  User Deleted
10/02/13 6:12:33 AM#20
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by skeaser
Originally posted by yangdude
What's free in this game - isn't almost the whole game inaccessible for the f2p - or an I thinking of LOTRO?

http://www.swtor.com/free/features

 

That is probably the worst f2p model i have ever see. Whats the point of playing f2p when you really can't play. You're better off playing a different f2p mmo.

Well it is quite nice free trial that lets you fully play best parts of the game :)

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