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  Quizzical

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OP  9/23/13 7:50:09 PM#1

They're better than the original Surface RT and Surface Pro, to be sure.  But they're not likely to fare much better, as the competition has gotten better, too.  The Surface 2 faces the same problem as the Surface RT:  Windows RT, and hence, not much software available.  The target audience seems to be people who want to run Microsoft Office on a tablet, but don't want to run much else.  They'll probably all buy a Surface 2, which means that it will sell about as well as the original Surface RT.

Meanwhile, the original Surface Pro faced the dilemma that there weren't any viable x86 tablet chips available.  Today, there are two:  AMD Temash and Intel Bay Trail Atom.  So naturally, Microsoft chose neither, going instead with a 15 W Haswell chip.  A 15 W chip in a tablet is a bad idea for a variety of reasons, and the $900 price tag without the touch cover that is half the point of the tablet dooms the Surface Pro 2 to sell about as well as the original Surface Pro.  At least it will have lower idle power consumption, and hence longer battery life.

  lizardbones

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9/23/13 7:52:15 PM#2

$900? Who in the world is going to spend $900 on a tablet?!? Good grief. I bet they didn't stick a Nvidia 770M chip in there for graphics either, did they. Schmucks.

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  Quizzical

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OP  9/23/13 8:05:54 PM#3
Originally posted by lizardbones

$900? Who in the world is going to spend $900 on a tablet?!? Good grief. I bet they didn't stick a Nvidia 770M chip in there for graphics either, did they. Schmucks.

If you want a discrete video card in a tablet, then that's what the Razer Edge is for.  And that's even more expensive.  And will get you a "tablet" thicker than some clamshell laptops.

  ray12k

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9/23/13 9:50:23 PM#4
Originally posted by lizardbones

$900? Who in the world is going to spend $900 on a tablet?!? Good grief. I bet they didn't stick a Nvidia 770M chip in there for graphics either, did they. Schmucks.

lol better off with a nexus at 125.00

  Ridelynn

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9/23/13 10:38:34 PM#5


Originally posted by lizardbones
$900? Who in the world is going to spend $900 on a tablet?!? Good grief. I bet they didn't stick a Nvidia 770M chip in there for graphics either, did they. Schmucks.

The top-end iPad (Cellular 128G) is $929. It's only running an Apple A6X, and has no discrete graphics. It has ~10hr battery. That is paying the Apple Tax though, but there is a market for a $900+ tablet.


The funny part:
Microsoft is claiming anything from 75% to 2.5x longer battery life on the Pro 2 versus the Pro, but hasn't really released any concrete numbers regarding battery life. Granted, they didn't really release any concrete numbers for the Pro 1 either, just stating that the RT was around 8 hrs, and it was longer than the Pro.

To me, battery life is probably one of the top specs for a tablet. If it's dead, it's useless, and if it weighs more than a brick, it's not going to get carried around. A tablet, for me, needs to pretty well last all day with moderate use and be comfortable enough to carry around with me really noticing that I'm carrying it around.

My personal benchmark is a day of airline travel. A typical cross-country trip for me has, on average, one layover lasting around 45-120min sandwiched between a pair of 3 hours flights, with a waiting period of around an hour after you clear security on the front end of the trip. My iPad can last through all of that playing Angry Birds or reading Kindle, and still have enough juice to play MP3s on the car ride out of the airport.

Most tablets are ok on the weight (the Razer Edge may be out there, I've not picked one up), but the Pro battery life was abysmal and that pretty well turned it into nothing better than a laptop which needed near-constant teathering to a power outlet.

  Dreamo84

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9/23/13 10:47:15 PM#6

Just seems like anyone interested in the Pro is probably just going to buy a touch screen laptop instead. The whole thing is a novelty really.

Tablets are kind of a novelty as a whole though. I love my iPad 4 but i'll be honest pretty much everything I use it for I could do on my phone too. I never liked laptops though and it's nice having a portable option that's bigger than my phone.

  Kilrain

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9/23/13 10:55:00 PM#7
Originally posted by Fendel84M

Just seems like anyone interested in the Pro is probably just going to buy a touch screen laptop instead. The whole thing is a novelty really.

Tablets are kind of a novelty as a whole though. I love my iPad 4 but i'll be honest pretty much everything I use it for I could do on my phone too. I never liked laptops though and it's nice having a portable option that's bigger than my phone.

while I don't agree that tablets are a novelty, I use my galaxy note 10.1 for school/work and play, I do agree that if someone was going to buy the pro they would be better off with a laptop. I had the Lenovo ideapad Yoga for a month ( needed a discrete card so I traded in for a bulkier laptop *sadface ) and it was way fkn better than the surface.

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  Cleffy

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9/24/13 2:18:09 AM#8
The thing I find Microsoft has succeeded on is making such a crappy device, their OEM partners can make more competitive products and thus don't really need to compete with Microsoft. I think the main reason why Microsoft even entered the tablet space was due to external pressures to offer a proprietary tablet device by many techno journalists. Thus they made a token device.
  jdnewell

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9/24/13 11:22:56 AM#9
Originally posted by Fendel84M

Just seems like anyone interested in the Pro is probably just going to buy a touch screen laptop instead. The whole thing is a novelty really.

Tablets are kind of a novelty as a whole though. I love my iPad 4 but i'll be honest pretty much everything I use it for I could do on my phone too. I never liked laptops though and it's nice having a portable option that's bigger than my phone.

Tablets are not a novelty at all. I personally use my Galaxy Note 8.0 on a daily basis for work. Every other rep for the company I work for also uses a tablet pretty much daily.

You do have the segment who use them as an e reader and to play angry birds on the couch. A big segment of the business population use tablets 5+ days a week for work.

Tablets are not going anywhere anytime soon. The business sector will see to that if nothing else.

Spending $900 + on a tablet is for a select few with disposable income that can afford it. That segment wont be booming anytime in the near future. I use my tablet many many hours a week, and I felt bad for spending what I did on mine, which was less than $400.

  Quizzical

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OP  9/24/13 7:48:00 PM#10
Originally posted by jdnewell
Originally posted by Fendel84M

Just seems like anyone interested in the Pro is probably just going to buy a touch screen laptop instead. The whole thing is a novelty really.

Tablets are kind of a novelty as a whole though. I love my iPad 4 but i'll be honest pretty much everything I use it for I could do on my phone too. I never liked laptops though and it's nice having a portable option that's bigger than my phone.

Tablets are not a novelty at all. I personally use my Galaxy Note 8.0 on a daily basis for work. Every other rep for the company I work for also uses a tablet pretty much daily.

You do have the segment who use them as an e reader and to play angry birds on the couch. A big segment of the business population use tablets 5+ days a week for work.

Tablets are not going anywhere anytime soon. The business sector will see to that if nothing else.

Spending $900 + on a tablet is for a select few with disposable income that can afford it. That segment wont be booming anytime in the near future. I use my tablet many many hours a week, and I felt bad for spending what I did on mine, which was less than $400.

Must not be terribly computer-intensive work if a tablet can handle it.  I'd complain vociferously if my employer so much as tried to take away one of my monitors (yes, plural).

  Nitth

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9/24/13 7:56:55 PM#11


Originally posted by Quizzical

Originally posted by jdnewell

Originally posted by Fendel84M Just seems like anyone interested in the Pro is probably just going to buy a touch screen laptop instead. The whole thing is a novelty really. Tablets are kind of a novelty as a whole though. I love my iPad 4 but i'll be honest pretty much everything I use it for I could do on my phone too. I never liked laptops though and it's nice having a portable option that's bigger than my phone.
Tablets are not a novelty at all. I personally use my Galaxy Note 8.0 on a daily basis for work. Every other rep for the company I work for also uses a tablet pretty much daily. You do have the segment who use them as an e reader and to play angry birds on the couch. A big segment of the business population use tablets 5+ days a week for work. Tablets are not going anywhere anytime soon. The business sector will see to that if nothing else. Spending $900 + on a tablet is for a select few with disposable income that can afford it. That segment wont be booming anytime in the near future. I use my tablet many many hours a week, and I felt bad for spending what I did on mine, which was less than $400.
Must not be terribly computer-intensive work if a tablet can handle it.  I'd complain vociferously if my employer so much as tried to take away one of my monitors (yes, plural).

He didn't say anything about computer intensive work, He said Business.


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  Ridelynn

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9/24/13 8:49:40 PM#12


Originally posted by Nitth

Originally posted by Quizzical

Originally posted by jdnewell

Originally posted by Fendel84M Just seems like anyone interested in the Pro is probably just going to buy a touch screen laptop instead. The whole thing is a novelty really. Tablets are kind of a novelty as a whole though. I love my iPad 4 but i'll be honest pretty much everything I use it for I could do on my phone too. I never liked laptops though and it's nice having a portable option that's bigger than my phone.
Tablets are not a novelty at all. I personally use my Galaxy Note 8.0 on a daily basis for work. Every other rep for the company I work for also uses a tablet pretty much daily. You do have the segment who use them as an e reader and to play angry birds on the couch. A big segment of the business population use tablets 5+ days a week for work. Tablets are not going anywhere anytime soon. The business sector will see to that if nothing else. Spending $900 + on a tablet is for a select few with disposable income that can afford it. That segment wont be booming anytime in the near future. I use my tablet many many hours a week, and I felt bad for spending what I did on mine, which was less than $400.
Must not be terribly computer-intensive work if a tablet can handle it.  I'd complain vociferously if my employer so much as tried to take away one of my monitors (yes, plural).

He didn't say anything about computer intensive work, He said Business.


The funny thing about computer work. The vast majority of the time working on the computer is spent waiting on the person, not vice versa. Sure, there are a few genuine computer-intensive work loads that pop up in a typical business/workplace- program compile time, graphics touchups, video work, very large cross-linked spreadsheets, work on large data sets. Bust most "computer work" is probably spent reading email, updating light weight documents (<10 pages), and playing on Facebook.

Not everyone runs Nuclear Holicaust weather simulations on a daily basis, most people could get by with a tablet and function fairly well as far as computing power goes - it's just the interface part they typically choke on at first.

  jdnewell

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9/25/13 8:02:00 AM#13
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by jdnewell
Originally posted by Fendel84M

Just seems like anyone interested in the Pro is probably just going to buy a touch screen laptop instead. The whole thing is a novelty really.

Tablets are kind of a novelty as a whole though. I love my iPad 4 but i'll be honest pretty much everything I use it for I could do on my phone too. I never liked laptops though and it's nice having a portable option that's bigger than my phone.

Tablets are not a novelty at all. I personally use my Galaxy Note 8.0 on a daily basis for work. Every other rep for the company I work for also uses a tablet pretty much daily.

You do have the segment who use them as an e reader and to play angry birds on the couch. A big segment of the business population use tablets 5+ days a week for work.

Tablets are not going anywhere anytime soon. The business sector will see to that if nothing else.

Spending $900 + on a tablet is for a select few with disposable income that can afford it. That segment wont be booming anytime in the near future. I use my tablet many many hours a week, and I felt bad for spending what I did on mine, which was less than $400.

Must not be terribly computer-intensive work if a tablet can handle it.  I'd complain vociferously if my employer so much as tried to take away one of my monitors (yes, plural).

I never said anything about computer intensive work. I dont spend my day sitting in a cubicle with facebook on one monitor and excel on another.

I am a sales rep who travels, mainly driving. I use my tablet to email, look up product & pricing for my customers, pull up and show the customer products & pricing while standing there talking to them, document on the fly my sales reports, ect.. I have the Galaxy note 8, so I can write and take notes on the tablet wherever I am.

I also carry a laptop with me to do the more computer oriented work, which for me mainly consists of pricing products and placing them in excel, and a few other company specific reports thats its just easier to do on a laptop vs tablet.

Business covers much much more than cubicle warriors writing code, or whatever it is you do.

Best not to assume or put words in others people mouths.

 

Edit: The company I work for is not huge compared to some, but we do have around 80 or so reps who use tablets on a daily basis. And the manuf. reps I come in contact with seem to use them quite a bit as well.

  Nadia

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9/25/13 8:52:02 AM#14

I'm surprised Microsoft is still trying to peddle WinRT

 

for $400 in October,  you will be able to buy a 4gig RAM 64gig Win8.1 Tablet

http://liliputing.com/2013/09/asus-introduces-349-transformer-book-t300-convertible-tablet-bay-trail.html

or $349 for the 2gig ram 32 gig version

 

 

 

  dave6660

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9/30/13 10:48:53 AM#15

If somebody wants to use Office then why would they buy a tablet?  Typing anything more than a few sentences on those virtual keyboards is really annoying.  Sure you can attach a keyboard but then why not just get a laptop.

Maybe when Steve Ballmer finally retires Microsoft will come to their senses.

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  JeroKane

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9/30/13 10:57:24 AM#16
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by jdnewell
Originally posted by Fendel84M

Just seems like anyone interested in the Pro is probably just going to buy a touch screen laptop instead. The whole thing is a novelty really.

Tablets are kind of a novelty as a whole though. I love my iPad 4 but i'll be honest pretty much everything I use it for I could do on my phone too. I never liked laptops though and it's nice having a portable option that's bigger than my phone.

Tablets are not a novelty at all. I personally use my Galaxy Note 8.0 on a daily basis for work. Every other rep for the company I work for also uses a tablet pretty much daily.

You do have the segment who use them as an e reader and to play angry birds on the couch. A big segment of the business population use tablets 5+ days a week for work.

Tablets are not going anywhere anytime soon. The business sector will see to that if nothing else.

Spending $900 + on a tablet is for a select few with disposable income that can afford it. That segment wont be booming anytime in the near future. I use my tablet many many hours a week, and I felt bad for spending what I did on mine, which was less than $400.

Must not be terribly computer-intensive work if a tablet can handle it.  I'd complain vociferously if my employer so much as tried to take away one of my monitors (yes, plural).

Both the Surface and Surface Pro 2 have a display port and are powerful enough to support an external screen!

It has USB 3.0 port(s), so you can Connect pretty much anything to it you want.

In fact, the Surface Pro and Surface Pro 2 are excellent tablets that performance wise are no less than the average ultrabook.

The only advantage an ultrabook has, is a larger battery, but Microsoft is fixing that With the release of the new battery touch cover.

Add to the fact, that it also has a Wacom digitizer build in, so it supports pressure sensitive pen input like the Galaxy Note.

It can run full blown Windows 8 Pro without a hitch and so you can run all Your programs on it.

So, yes especially for bussiness it´s a great portable work maschine.

Add to the fact, due to the Wacom digitizer, that plenty of Professional artists have found their way to the Surface Pro as well to use as portable on the go drawing tablet.

Especially since Wacom charges 2500 bucks for their new Cintiq Companion With same hardware specs as the first generation Surface Pro (just that it´s a 13 inch, instead of 10.1), makes the surface Pro (2) an excellent affordable alternative.

  Kilrain

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Posts: 473

9/30/13 11:09:15 AM#17
unless it comes with a digitizer pen it isn't worth it. Galaxy Note series ftw

professional web programming and design.

  Nadia

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Posts: 11227

9/30/13 11:20:19 AM#18
Originally posted by JeroKane

Both the Surface and Surface Pro 2 have a display port and are powerful enough to support an external screen!

It has USB 3.0 port(s), so you can Connect pretty much anything to it you want.

In fact, the Surface Pro and Surface Pro 2 are excellent tablets that performance wise are no less than the average ultrabook.

The only advantage an ultrabook has, is a larger battery, but Microsoft is fixing that With the release of the new battery touch cover.

Add to the fact, that it also has a Wacom digitizer build in, so it supports pressure sensitive pen input like the Galaxy Note.

It can run full blown Windows 8 Pro without a hitch and so you can run all Your programs on it.

the pricing is still questionable

w Surface, you only get WinRT

 

for $400 (half the price),  this is the competition -- a hybrid tablet/laptop w win8.1

http://liliputing.com/2013/09/asus-introduces-349-transformer-book-t300-convertible-tablet-bay-trail.html

The Transformer Book T100 features a 1.33 GHz Intel Atom Z3740 quad-core processor with turbo boosts up to 1.86 GHz.

10.1 inch, 1366 x 768 pixel IPS touchscreen display, and Windows 8.1 software.

4GB of RAM,  64GB of storage, a 1.2MP camera, and comes with Microsoft Office Home & Student.

1 micro USB port, microSD card reader, micro HDMI port, and audio jack.

The tablet dock adds a full-sized USB 3.0 port, along with a keyboard and touchpad.

  DavisFlight

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Posts: 2388

9/30/13 11:35:47 AM#19
Originally posted by dave6660

If somebody wants to use Office then why would they buy a tablet?  Typing anything more than a few sentences on those virtual keyboards is really annoying.  Sure you can attach a keyboard but then why not just get a laptop.

Maybe when Steve Ballmer finally retires Microsoft will come to their senses.

Thats why they have Surface keyboards, that's part of the thing that makes them good.

  JeroKane

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9/30/13 3:37:01 PM#20
Originally posted by Kilrain
unless it comes with a digitizer pen it isn't worth it. Galaxy Note series ftw

Didn´t you even read my post? The surface pro and surface pro 2 both come With a wacom digitizer.

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