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  ellobo29

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10/03/13 10:35:52 PM#21

The game looks decent, and I dont mind subscription games...... however from what I have seen, this dont look sub worthy. Decent games dont get my money, only GREAT games get my money.

And currently there is only 2 I find worthy of that title. Meh I will wait 6 months till it goes f2p.

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  GeezerGamer

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10/03/13 10:46:30 PM#22

I would pay for and support a P2P model, but not when it has a formal RMT plan built in.

One or the other, but this monthly sub and CRED or whatever it's called is a deal breaker for me. as long as one can convert real cash into in-game currency, it might as well be a cash shop.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Thorkune

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10/03/13 10:54:33 PM#23
Originally posted by flizzer
And I'll try Wildstar when it goes f2p....

This /\

It will eventually happen. WoW is apparently the only game that can avoid it.

  bcbully

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10/03/13 10:55:40 PM#24
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I would pay for and support a P2P model, but not when it has a formal RMT plan built in.

One or the other, but this monthly sub and CRED or whatever it's called is a deal breaker for me. as long as one can convert real cash into in-game currency, it might as well be a cash shop.

I'm interested in seeing how they plan to balance out the economy. How will the non CRED buyer compete with the I can't wait to buy CRED players. 

 

Quick fast and in a hurry you might see some crazy prices that will quickly make non-buyers 2nd class players. 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  DamonVile

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10/03/13 11:08:11 PM#25

They plan to take your $60 and your $15 a month and running a cash shop till people are so sick of feeling like they're getting bent over, then switching to free to play and acting like they're doing some great thing for everyone !

This is a real example of a money grab.

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  Realbigdeal

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10/05/13 8:56:40 AM#26
Originally posted by Thorkune
Originally posted by flizzer
And I'll try Wildstar when it goes f2p....

This /\

It will eventually happen. WoW is apparently the only game that can avoid it.

For one, i think it's all about timing. For 2, i think wow is a great game and it's not easy. By not easy, i mean that the game itself wants you to grind in order to make things easier. This route is pretty long and this is why the longevity of wow is internal. You must go trough fails first to succeed after especially for raids. I heard from so many how hard the lich king and other raids are and how coordinated each must be. Yes, it's just an other wack a mole game, but as long as the challenge is there, it's fine.

There's other ways to make wow easier and i did not use these methods coz it only ruin it for me. I'm talking about addons and autohotkey third party programs. It's not intended by the developers so i have nothing against them for these disasters.

As for wildstar, the way i see this game, it's not progression for me. The telegraph system and the way the devs want to introduce us in the game tells me that they dont want us to go trough failure in order to succeed after. They just want us to look at the red lights to dodge them and to finish the dungeon, raid, boss or quest as fast as possible with no one dead.

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  IceAge

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10/07/13 7:02:48 AM#27
Originally posted by Mr.Kujo
Originally posted by skeaser
I'm fine with subs. The $15 mark is $0.50 a day, less than a soda costs.

Does paying $0.50, $0.30, or $0.01 a day makes it any less wrong when it is not justified?

If I can get as many gameplay from any new mmo that came out last year, as from any new single player, then it is reasonable that I shouldn't pay anything more than a price of a single player for it.

You can pay $50 for a doughnut if you don't have anything better to do with your money, but it doesn't change the fact that doughnut is not worth that much.

Why would I give even $0.01 to anyone if I think I shouldn't. It is not about quantity, you pay for something.

Wow, this mentality .. 

If is not justified for you, that does not mean is not justified by me or any other person who likes the game. You still get SOMETHING for you precious 0.50$ a day. Even if you kill a goblin per day, that is something. 

For me, P2P is what makes a big difference between the devs, community and the quality of the game.  I don't care if there are people who says that F2P community is the same with P2P, because I know that this NOT true and whoever says this, then he's a part of "THAT" community.

Some people said that this game will go F2P in 1 year or so. Well, then,I enjoyed 2 years in Aion as a P2P member, so I will be a happy P2P player for a year in Wildstar to. 

To anyone who said that they will try the game when it will become F2P or B2P, well , see ya then ( I hope you have a VERY very very long time to wait :) )

 

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  NagelRitter

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10/07/13 5:39:23 PM#28
Originally posted by IceAge

Some people said that this game will go F2P in 1 year or so. Well, then,I enjoyed 2 years in Aion as a P2P member, so I will be a happy P2P player for a year in Wildstar to.

In a similar vein, I enjoyed Rift while it was P2P, and once it went F2P, it just didn't really feel the same.

Favorite MMO: Vanilla WoW
Currently playing: GW2, EVE
Excited for: Wildstar, maybe?

  F2Plague

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10/07/13 11:59:49 PM#29
Originally posted by IceAge
Originally posted by Mr.Kujo
Originally posted by skeaser
I'm fine with subs. The $15 mark is $0.50 a day, less than a soda costs.

Does paying $0.50, $0.30, or $0.01 a day makes it any less wrong when it is not justified?

If I can get as many gameplay from any new mmo that came out last year, as from any new single player, then it is reasonable that I shouldn't pay anything more than a price of a single player for it.

You can pay $50 for a doughnut if you don't have anything better to do with your money, but it doesn't change the fact that doughnut is not worth that much.

Why would I give even $0.01 to anyone if I think I shouldn't. It is not about quantity, you pay for something.

Wow, this mentality .. 

If is not justified for you, that does not mean is not justified by me or any other person who likes the game. You still get SOMETHING for you precious 0.50$ a day. Even if you kill a goblin per day, that is something. 

For me, P2P is what makes a big difference between the devs, community and the quality of the game.  I don't care if there are people who says that F2P community is the same with P2P, because I know that this NOT true and whoever says this, then he's a part of "THAT" community.

Some people said that this game will go F2P in 1 year or so. Well, then,I enjoyed 2 years in Aion as a P2P member, so I will be a happy P2P player for a year in Wildstar to. 

To anyone who said that they will try the game when it will become F2P or B2P, well , see ya then ( I hope you have a VERY very very long time to wait :) )

 

I have no problem with subscription model. In fact I prefer it, but to have box price, sub and cash shop is a joke. I knew the day would come. I hope this fails.

  rensta

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10/08/13 12:39:39 AM#30

“And it is, fewer people play City of Heroes, they peaked out at - I don’t know the numbers - something like 200,000. But 200,000 subscribers paying $15 a month, if you do the math, that makes about as much money as selling 6 million boxes, if they last long enough.”  

You can see he is referring to GW2  (almost 4  million boxes) but he forgets one fact, out of the 500k  people who play the game daily( equal around 2.5 Million active accounts),about 10%-20% maybe even more buy ingame gems each month (gems are a currency you can buy for real life money) the price starts at 10$ for 800 gems..... so do the math again. 


Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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  Fusion

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10/08/13 12:55:50 AM#31
One thing i absolutely love about PLEX/CREDD system, is that it eliminates RMT spam (might have some desperate gold-farming sweatshops try, but notice quickly that it's futile).

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  IceAge

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10/08/13 1:18:03 AM#32
Originally posted by F2Plague
Originally posted by IceAge
Originally posted by Mr.Kujo
Originally posted by skeaser
I'm fine with subs. The $15 mark is $0.50 a day, less than a soda costs.

Does paying $0.50, $0.30, or $0.01 a day makes it any less wrong when it is not justified?

If I can get as many gameplay from any new mmo that came out last year, as from any new single player, then it is reasonable that I shouldn't pay anything more than a price of a single player for it.

You can pay $50 for a doughnut if you don't have anything better to do with your money, but it doesn't change the fact that doughnut is not worth that much.

Why would I give even $0.01 to anyone if I think I shouldn't. It is not about quantity, you pay for something.

Wow, this mentality .. 

If is not justified for you, that does not mean is not justified by me or any other person who likes the game. You still get SOMETHING for you precious 0.50$ a day. Even if you kill a goblin per day, that is something. 

For me, P2P is what makes a big difference between the devs, community and the quality of the game.  I don't care if there are people who says that F2P community is the same with P2P, because I know that this NOT true and whoever says this, then he's a part of "THAT" community.

Some people said that this game will go F2P in 1 year or so. Well, then,I enjoyed 2 years in Aion as a P2P member, so I will be a happy P2P player for a year in Wildstar to. 

To anyone who said that they will try the game when it will become F2P or B2P, well , see ya then ( I hope you have a VERY very very long time to wait :) )

 

I have no problem with subscription model. In fact I prefer it, but to have box price, sub and cash shop is a joke. I knew the day would come. I hope this fails.

Cash-shop? C'mon! CREDD is far from a cash shop in WS. 

I am telling you, if you will have the in-game cash to pay and get CREDD, you'll do that. And I am pretty sure that the CREDD price will NOT be that high and many will buy it with in-game currency. 

So in the end, lots of people will have this game as a B2P game. 

Is a win-win for the majority ( my point ) .

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  FlyByKnight

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10/08/13 1:49:38 AM#33

This whole F2P = leeches stance has got to be one of the more ridiculous things I've seen regurgitated by mmorpg fans. What? Is there some imbicilic faction of the Tea Party operating in the PC gaming world now?

 

P2P = No Spam = A LIE it's simply not true.

 

A business model is just that a business model.  A good game is a good game. You don't blame a business model for a crappy game and crappy publisher behavior.

  Zapzap

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10/08/13 3:54:35 PM#34
Originally posted by FlyByKnight

This whole F2P = leeches stance has got to be one of the more ridiculous things I've seen regurgitated by mmorpg fans. What? Is there some imbicilic faction of the Tea Party operating in the PC gaming world now?

 

P2P = No Spam = A LIE it's simply not true.

 

A business model is just that a business model.  A good game is a good game. You don't blame a business model for a crappy game and crappy publisher behavior.

I disagree F2P is a different business model for a different type of game.  F2P games are frontloaded games and not AAA games.  If you want a AAA endgame content game with quality you have to go P2P.  there have been a total of one released AAA MMOs that have released F2P.  There is a reason behind that.

  FlyByKnight

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10/08/13 5:34:35 PM#35

A games letter grading is based on the budget that is spent to create it.  The ""2P is simply the business model used to create revenue for the title.  There's really nothing to debate beyond that.

 

If a game is F2P and [insert adjective] it it's because of game design and presentation not the business model.

  Yamota

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10/08/13 5:36:10 PM#36
Because they want to make some initial money and then go F2P when the subs start to dwindle. As has been the case for every ThemePark MMO since WoW.

  Yamota

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10/08/13 5:38:44 PM#37
Originally posted by Dihoru

Whenever I see a sub these days and no comprehensive trial option mentioned from the game from the moment they said sub only I think: Either "This is bad enough they need to trick people into investing and hope to get a WoW ball going"  or "Wow, wonder how long ti'll they decide that it's better for the people they screwed over by paying money for the game and a sub that the game should be F2P.".

Btw OP F2P isn't a bubble :) , it's been around for about the same amount of time as the 15$/month deal so can it lest we get into the delightful conversation of: How is paying for something you can get for free a smart choice?

What F2P MMO was around when UO and EQ 1 was released?

And F2P is not 'getting it for free' because if that was the case then the devs would go bankrupt. Only some daft people think that F2P is actually free to play.

  Etherouge

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10/08/13 5:45:30 PM#38
I would rather buy the game for $60 and play for a month than pay $15 a month.

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  mikuniman

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10/08/13 5:47:45 PM#39
Subs are fine but unless you have a huge gaming budget you're a slave to only enjoying a few at a time. FTP or BTP offers better options to play more of a variety and play as many as your HD can hold. Those options let me come and go as I please as time permits. When rl gets in the way and I have a sub it's only wasted.
  Superchieftian

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10/08/13 5:55:49 PM#40
It doesn't matter what they say in the interview. It will be a F2P game within 6 months of release. Just watch.
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