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Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn 

Reviews  » Fun to try, not worth a sub, weak game overall

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  sumdumguy1

Elite Member

Joined: 2/20/11
Posts: 902

9/23/13 3:44:47 AM#61
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, without restating everything all over again that others have said, I respectfully disagree with the OP.  I am glad to have played this game so I can make an informed decision for myself.  I have a differing opinion, I enjoy this game and will sub and continue to play this game myself.
  User Deleted
9/23/13 3:54:59 AM#62
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989

 

 Yeah, it's unfortunate the MMO genre isn't for everyone. If you can't stand grind, lots of questing, and other repetitive tasks you most likely won't like any MMO. These games (use to) require a lot of patience to obtain items.

 

   That's just a bad aspect of the genre due to developer laziness. GW2 definitely took great steps out of that direction, although it definitely has its fair share of repetition....

   What players need is more procedurally generated content. How about procedurally generated jumping puzzles? PvP arenas? How about SPvP as leveling progression? It's ridiculous how many options are on the table, but how stagnant MMOs have been.

  It's understandable that the more fun stuff is too costly. There's a reason why there are so few jumping puzzles in relation to other content, like renown hearts, or even personal story quests that were trivial to make (outside of the art).

 Even WoW had some VERY great quests in Cataclysm, but they were very few in comparison to the tedious ones.

 TSW has some great quests as well, but for every good one there are 10 kill X/retrieve Y ones.

  I think MMOs will leave the repetition mire eventually and graduate to single-player goodness... just give them another 20 years.

 

 

  muthax

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Joined: 11/15/05
Posts: 608

9/23/13 4:19:07 AM#63
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Fusion
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Fusion
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Piechunks
Originally posted by Tinybina
 

 

Edit:  I also find it amusing that so many of you like this game, yet ever time I come to these forums I see the same people patrolling them.  If the game is so good then WHY ARE ON THESE FORUMS AND NOT PLAYING IT!?...

 

Maybe they have a stake in it .... *hint* *hint*

 

 If it wasn't for the one gripe I have about this game. I'd say in my personal opinion it's perfect. I've already discussed the flaw that I have with this game already and I'll say it again. It's the difficulty and the difficulty Yoshi "promised/promising" it's not really hard at all and please don't mention the fact that no one has defeated Coil - 5. My guild is one of the few who's actually on Coil - 5 and I'll say this right now, it's damn near impossible to beat.

For what reason do you ask?

 Well It's not that they made it hard, truly the first 5 bosses are incredibly easy and have some pretty straight forward mechanics. The issue lies with what Yoshi - P "forgetting" to mention to the customer base and that there's an entire 24 man raid missing from the game at the moment.

 Yeah, that's right, the only reason very few people will be able to "complete" Coil 5 is due to the fact that very few can obtain the proper gear to complete the final turn. Fortunately for casual players, you all will have plenty of time to goof off until November. By the time that November rolls around we'll have the Crystal Tower. Unfortunately for the player-base who has already made it through the first 4 turns, we'll most likely be geared out and waiting for the next 6 months. Because the extreme modes and Crystal Tower are pre-coil content.

 So in actuality this games raiding is actually quite easy and I'm quite disappointed in Yoshi - P and the developer team for misleading their customers in the belief that the content was going to be quite hard.

For your basic WoW'er / I want it now / instant gratification MMO'er, it's quite hard and they've probably already left :)

It's no where near FFXI hard, but it's still harder than most current "gen" MMO's out there (this can be witnessed with pretty much 80% of the dungeon PUGs), if they made it any harder, it would be bleeding players like no tomorrow.

 Fortunately this game does hold better ground as far as "difficulty" when comparing it to WoW content. I do have to admit our guilds first time through the fights did take roughly 1-8 hours at most to complete. I'm sorry, however I come from the old gaming era where many people didn't always win. Not everyone needs to be a winner and it's okay that there's someone who'll always be better than you.

 It's always good to have content that's incredibly hard for you to beat. It gives the customer something to come back for. If people continue to follow the easy instant gratification formula like WOW as example; you're going to fail. Dark Souls is a prime example of a game in which is increasingly difficult. Not only is it difficult but Dark Souls 2 has already been touted to be much harder. We don't want trivial content, we want to be challenged.

I too am from the "old" era and i wholeheartedly agree with the challenge aspect. Also loved Dark Souls to bits and am anxiously waiting for 2! gladly this time around it's not a crappy port which needs community fixes to make even playable :)

But you need to look at this from the company point of view, they're there to make profit, not to drive "casuals" away, you think FFXIV would be operating more than 2 months if it was as challenging and hard as DS? Hell no.

 Fortunately that's what's great about companies like Blizzard and Square-Enix. They don't need the casual customers money in comparison to companies like EA who are spending their investors money. Companies like EA have deadlines to make a profit off of their share holders investments.

 Companies like Blizzard and Square-Enix are using money out of their own pockets to produce these games. Which allows them to keep their games P2P unlike EA for example. Also, your point doesn't quite hold up to par when it's compared to their older MMO; FFXI. It's a significantly harder MMO in comparison to all modern day MMOs, yet it doesn't need to cater to the casual market to be successful.

 I'm fine with the difficulty being in between FFXI and Wow. It'll at least give the more casual crowd a chance at the game while retaining the difficulty for the more hardcore players. However, my stance on gaming is that, "Not everyone has to be a winner." So I personally would like see incredibly hard content. I'm here to achieve insanely hard tasks; not run several dungeons 60 times before getting the 2nd-3rd best set of gear within the game.

 Unfortunately as of right now, the content is only hard because SE didn't add all of the proper raids. Once Crystal Tower is implemented into the game in 2.1 Bahamuts Coil will be no harder that simply running your standard raid.

I don't know what you smoke, but Blizzard has been making quite a lot of changes since TBC to accomodate casuals, hell the whole game has been dumbed down so much it makes Diablo III look complex

  donpopuki

Novice Member

Joined: 4/06/12
Posts: 603

9/23/13 7:37:37 AM#64
I plan to stick with the game until something new comes out like EQN or ESO. To me this is just a bridge game.

I never played a "perfect" game and this one has its own unique flaws. It's a bit grindy but aren't most Asian mmos? The 2.5 GCD is a bit nuts. The world is tiny but on the up side people are everywhere.

I love the graphics and animations. The main story line quest is intriguing. I like the class system. I having enough fun to keep me interested for the time being.
  Viper482

Elite Member

Joined: 11/04/10
Posts: 406

9/23/13 7:49:38 AM#65
This thread held my attention longer than the game.
  Kajidourden

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/20/13
Posts: 314

9/23/13 7:56:40 AM#66

K bai.

Seriously cannot wait for the free period to be over so that people will move on with their lives.

It's pretty sad that theres several users that repeated come back into the forums to QQ about the game, and lo and behold, a week later they have another thread.  And again, and again, and again.  Jokes on them for wasting their time A) playing a game they obviously don't like and B) Taking the time to post in a forum about it over and over, despite still playing.  Hypocricy abounds.....lol

  Nanfoodle

Elite Member

Joined: 5/23/06
Posts: 3712

9/23/13 7:58:25 AM#67
Will be here for the long haul. Classes that matter, a hard core trinity system that gets people to playing together, dungeons that are well designed and fun, lots of content coming out soon and already enough to show they put though into end game and a class system thats a lot of fun. In my 14 years of MMOing there has only been a couple of MMOs got me this excited and I play them each for many years, EQ1, DAoC and WoW. This game is quality.
  muthax

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/15/05
Posts: 608

9/23/13 8:03:18 AM#68
Originally posted by Kajidourden

K bai.

Seriously cannot wait for the free period to be over so that people will move on with their lives.

It's pretty sad that theres several users that repeated come back into the forums to QQ about the game, and lo and behold, a week later they have another thread.  And again, and again, and again.  Jokes on them for wasting their time A) playing a game they obviously don't like and B) Taking the time to post in a forum about it over and over, despite still playing.  Hypocricy abounds.....lol

Yes, every time is the same.

New game comes out and the nolifers get to max level in a week or two and starts derping that they are bored.

Over and over. For every game. Free month over will mean less packed servers and less morons in general

  User Deleted
9/23/13 8:06:39 AM#69
Please let that thread die, the original review is just too bad.
  StarI

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/18/06
Posts: 843

9/23/13 8:53:02 AM#70
Originally posted by Voqar

TLDR: Was fun and ok to check out; not worth a sub - not even close; overall it's a weak post WoW clone with very weak content overall;

 

 

How I felt.

  LizardEgypt

Novice Member

Joined: 2/25/09
Posts: 359

Hmm ?

9/23/13 9:24:36 AM#71
While I agree with some of the OPs points, I disagree with his overall assessment of the game. I find FFXIV to be mainly what I was looking for in an RPG, not perfect, but the closest I'm going to find. The massive negativity from OP tells me that he knew he wasn't going to enjoy it from the start.

Currently playing - FF14ARR
Previous games - SWG, World of Warcraft, ShadowBane, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall, Planetside Asheron's Call, Everquest, Everquest 2, Too many.

  echolynfan

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/26/10
Posts: 728

I ain't got a gat but I gotta soldering gun

9/23/13 9:46:59 AM#72
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Will be here for the long haul. Classes that matter, a hard core trinity system that gets people to playing together, dungeons that are well designed and fun, lots of content coming out soon and already enough to show they put though into end game and a class system thats a lot of fun. In my 14 years of MMOing there has only been a couple of MMOs got me this excited and I play them each for many years, EQ1, DAoC and WoW. This game is quality.

This ^

Currently playing SWTOR and it's MUCH better than it was at launch.

  Mtibbs1989

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 2874

9/23/13 2:05:12 PM#73
Originally posted by muthax
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Fusion
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Fusion
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Originally posted by Piechunks
Originally posted by Tinybina
 

 

Edit:  I also find it amusing that so many of you like this game, yet ever time I come to these forums I see the same people patrolling them.  If the game is so good then WHY ARE ON THESE FORUMS AND NOT PLAYING IT!?...

 

Maybe they have a stake in it .... *hint* *hint*

 

 If it wasn't for the one gripe I have about this game. I'd say in my personal opinion it's perfect. I've already discussed the flaw that I have with this game already and I'll say it again. It's the difficulty and the difficulty Yoshi "promised/promising" it's not really hard at all and please don't mention the fact that no one has defeated Coil - 5. My guild is one of the few who's actually on Coil - 5 and I'll say this right now, it's damn near impossible to beat.

For what reason do you ask?

 Well It's not that they made it hard, truly the first 5 bosses are incredibly easy and have some pretty straight forward mechanics. The issue lies with what Yoshi - P "forgetting" to mention to the customer base and that there's an entire 24 man raid missing from the game at the moment.

 Yeah, that's right, the only reason very few people will be able to "complete" Coil 5 is due to the fact that very few can obtain the proper gear to complete the final turn. Fortunately for casual players, you all will have plenty of time to goof off until November. By the time that November rolls around we'll have the Crystal Tower. Unfortunately for the player-base who has already made it through the first 4 turns, we'll most likely be geared out and waiting for the next 6 months. Because the extreme modes and Crystal Tower are pre-coil content.

 So in actuality this games raiding is actually quite easy and I'm quite disappointed in Yoshi - P and the developer team for misleading their customers in the belief that the content was going to be quite hard.

For your basic WoW'er / I want it now / instant gratification MMO'er, it's quite hard and they've probably already left :)

It's no where near FFXI hard, but it's still harder than most current "gen" MMO's out there (this can be witnessed with pretty much 80% of the dungeon PUGs), if they made it any harder, it would be bleeding players like no tomorrow.

 Fortunately this game does hold better ground as far as "difficulty" when comparing it to WoW content. I do have to admit our guilds first time through the fights did take roughly 1-8 hours at most to complete. I'm sorry, however I come from the old gaming era where many people didn't always win. Not everyone needs to be a winner and it's okay that there's someone who'll always be better than you.

 It's always good to have content that's incredibly hard for you to beat. It gives the customer something to come back for. If people continue to follow the easy instant gratification formula like WOW as example; you're going to fail. Dark Souls is a prime example of a game in which is increasingly difficult. Not only is it difficult but Dark Souls 2 has already been touted to be much harder. We don't want trivial content, we want to be challenged.

I too am from the "old" era and i wholeheartedly agree with the challenge aspect. Also loved Dark Souls to bits and am anxiously waiting for 2! gladly this time around it's not a crappy port which needs community fixes to make even playable :)

But you need to look at this from the company point of view, they're there to make profit, not to drive "casuals" away, you think FFXIV would be operating more than 2 months if it was as challenging and hard as DS? Hell no.

 Fortunately that's what's great about companies like Blizzard and Square-Enix. They don't need the casual customers money in comparison to companies like EA who are spending their investors money. Companies like EA have deadlines to make a profit off of their share holders investments.

 Companies like Blizzard and Square-Enix are using money out of their own pockets to produce these games. Which allows them to keep their games P2P unlike EA for example. Also, your point doesn't quite hold up to par when it's compared to their older MMO; FFXI. It's a significantly harder MMO in comparison to all modern day MMOs, yet it doesn't need to cater to the casual market to be successful.

 I'm fine with the difficulty being in between FFXI and Wow. It'll at least give the more casual crowd a chance at the game while retaining the difficulty for the more hardcore players. However, my stance on gaming is that, "Not everyone has to be a winner." So I personally would like see incredibly hard content. I'm here to achieve insanely hard tasks; not run several dungeons 60 times before getting the 2nd-3rd best set of gear within the game.

 Unfortunately as of right now, the content is only hard because SE didn't add all of the proper raids. Once Crystal Tower is implemented into the game in 2.1 Bahamuts Coil will be no harder that simply running your standard raid.

I don't know what you smoke, but Blizzard has been making quite a lot of changes since TBC to accomodate casuals, hell the whole game has been dumbed down so much it makes Diablo III look complex

 Please properly read my post. I didn't say they didn't. They totally are doing so but that's their choice. However, they never needed to and would probably bring a large majority of the players who've quit if they'd actually make it challenging again. My point is the fact that they're an independent company who doesn't have tight deadlines to make a profit unlike other companies.


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  Mtibbs1989

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 2874

9/23/13 2:08:19 PM#74
Originally posted by Kajidourden

K bai.

Seriously cannot wait for the free period to be over so that people will move on with their lives.

It's pretty sad that theres several users that repeated come back into the forums to QQ about the game, and lo and behold, a week later they have another thread.  And again, and again, and again.  Jokes on them for wasting their time A) playing a game they obviously don't like and B) Taking the time to post in a forum about it over and over, despite still playing.  Hypocricy abounds.....lol

 It's not sad, It's just that when they voice their opinion and someone reads that they hate things like; questing, grind, story, classes, crafting, and etc. Then people don't quite understand why that person is even playing MMOs.


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  Raquis

Apprentice Member

Joined: 3/18/13
Posts: 415

9/23/13 2:19:19 PM#75

its just funny to me that when the game came out and I raged about how bad it is this site put a temapary ban on me.

the joke is the game grew on me a little and I subscribed for a month just to finish.

if any of the AAA mmo games that's coming was out very view people would have played this.

  vivithemage

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/20/08
Posts: 3

9/23/13 4:00:13 PM#76
The game sounds fun...
  Raxeon

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/10/10
Posts: 2082

9/23/13 4:02:19 PM#77
Originally posted by potlaki

its just funny to me that when the game came out and I raged about how bad it is this site put a temapary ban on me.

the joke is the game grew on me a little and I subscribed for a month just to finish.

if any of the AAA mmo games that's coming was out very view people would have played this.

what aaa mmos? 

  daltanious

Elite Member

Joined: 4/19/08
Posts: 1943

9/24/13 7:18:42 AM#78
Originally posted by thunderC
One of the worst reviews i have ever had the displeasure of reading on this site.....

Actually OP got it all just right. But as they say when love is blind ... :-))

  MisterTeaBH

Novice Member

Joined: 1/16/10
Posts: 24

9/24/13 10:23:03 AM#79
Stopped reading when he said the main story sucked.
  vandal5627

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/04/12
Posts: 362

9/26/13 5:30:48 PM#80
Originally posted by daltanious
Originally posted by thunderC
One of the worst reviews i have ever had the displeasure of reading on this site.....

Actually OP got it all just right. But as they say when love is blind ... :-))

Many people would say blind hate is even worst. :))

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