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  Aragon100

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Joined: 2/06/08
Posts: 2224

 
OP  9/16/13 7:35:25 AM#1

Here is some youtube evidence that aimbot work perfect in Darkfall, just listen to the conversation -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AOLxw9UpaM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxZ8pmoTLsg

Seems they dont miss a shot when it is active. 

 

 

 

  Grunch

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Joined: 2/14/05
Posts: 520

9/16/13 8:38:41 AM#2

Told ya so :D

 

I tried telling "you people (note 1)" but nope, didn't want to listen to me :D

People think that just because a guy misses shots from long range that he isn't using aimbot, lol! Just watch and learn. Thank you whoever posted that video on YouTube :D

 

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  SysFail

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9/16/13 9:02:58 AM#3
Between idiots who use hacks like those and AV themselves, it's hard to see a future for this game.
  User Deleted
9/16/13 11:41:28 AM#4

The same "third party" cheat app has worked since DF1 and still works today.  The Unholy Ban Hammer is a joke and only serves to give the impression AV is doing something.

I'm not sure why any fan of the game wouldn't want this video everywhere, it'll never get addressed if they keep trying to hide it. Alas, it's been going on since 2009. :(

 

Cheating is much more damaging in a Full Loot PvP game.

  Lahuzer

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Joined: 5/07/09
Posts: 680

Sit on my face and tell me that you love me...

9/16/13 1:26:57 PM#5
I play the game atm. But this is disheartening...
  Simsu

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Joined: 11/06/03
Posts: 333

9/16/13 1:40:12 PM#6

This has always been a problem in Darkfall (and it will probably continue for as long as DF exists). There are several cheat clients being sold and several more that people make and only give out to their friends. Maybe people are really good or maybe they tap their lock on key just before they swing (macro mice make this super easy to incorporate in a single click).

It's the same story for most FPS games. (PS2 was jammed packed with aimbots when I played). Kinda sad.

  Boneserino

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Joined: 12/08/07
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9/16/13 1:59:26 PM#7
Originally posted by ilives

The same "third party" cheat app has worked since DF1 and still works today.  The Unholy Ban Hammer is a joke and only serves to give the impression AV is doing something.

I'm not sure why any fan of the game wouldn't want this video everywhere, it'll never get addressed if they keep trying to hide it. Alas, it's been going on since 2009. :(

 

Cheating is much more damaging in a Full Loot PvP game.

Sorry dude but blaming Adventurine for letting people use aimbots is like blaming the Olympics for letting people use steroids.   They know it is happening and they do what they can to prevent but that will never stop people from trying to gain an advantage.   The guy in the vid even explains how they go about trying to hide it. 

Top level sports has not figured out how to detect all cheaters and neither will games I am afraid.  Its simply a fact of life anytime you have people competing against each other.  In fact it is just another extension of griefing where the objective is to gain an unfair advantage also.

So if you want PvP you are probably going to have to deal with it in some form no matter what.  Either that or become a care bear! 

FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  User Deleted
9/16/13 3:47:39 PM#8
Originally posted by Boneserino
Originally posted by ilives

The same "third party" cheat app has worked since DF1 and still works today.  The Unholy Ban Hammer is a joke and only serves to give the impression AV is doing something.

I'm not sure why any fan of the game wouldn't want this video everywhere, it'll never get addressed if they keep trying to hide it. Alas, it's been going on since 2009. :(

 

Cheating is much more damaging in a Full Loot PvP game.

Sorry dude but blaming Adventurine for letting people use aimbots is like blaming the Olympics for letting people use steroids.   They know it is happening and they do what they can to prevent but that will never stop people from trying to gain an advantage. 

When they've been using the exact same program for over 4 years, yes it is AV fault.

  Boneserino

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Joined: 12/08/07
Posts: 794

9/16/13 3:50:32 PM#9

They have been using the exact same steroids too, my friend. 

Perhaps you could explain how that makes a difference?  And while you are at it, you may want to pass that info on to Aventurine.

FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  Yalexy

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Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 1020

9/16/13 4:08:07 PM#10

I can't count the amount of times I've told people that DF:UW will have this problem due to it's FPS-gameplay. Every FPS-game has this problem.

  Boneserino

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Posts: 794

9/16/13 4:23:34 PM#11

Yea it seems kind of silly to me when people act all surprised about it. 

I mean really, in a kill or be killed type of game, you never thought people would use this as an advantage?

And since it is a problem in every FPS, it cannot be a simple solution to eradicate it or it would have been done.  You can catch some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.

Another reason why FFA PvP sandbox is a niche game.

FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  User Deleted
9/16/13 4:54:00 PM#12
Originally posted by Boneserino

They have been using the exact same steroids too, my friend. 

Perhaps you could explain how that makes a difference?  And while you are at it, you may want to pass that info on to Aventurine.

Your analogy is horrible! As they test for steroids....

If people used the exact same steroid year after year and the committee fails to test for it, it IS the committees fault.

 

Its not like AV doesn't know about the program, they either don't care or can't secure their game.

 

Its far from just a "simple aimbot"

 

 

  Boneserino

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Posts: 794

9/16/13 6:43:34 PM#13

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about and are just making general statements.  The Olympics and professional sports are huge entities that represent billions of dollars in revenue and yet they still fail to catch people like Lance Armstrong, at least not until long after he got away with it.  

People like you seem to think everything is simple in life.  Oh, just test for this and you will find it.  Sure buddy.  Do you think every person that commits a crime is actually caught in the real world too? 

Its good that you play MMO's because you are living in fantasy land if you think this.

FFA Nonconsentual Full Loot PvP ...You know you want it!!

  User Deleted
9/16/13 7:04:51 PM#14
Originally posted by Boneserino

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about and are just making general statements.  The Olympics and professional sports are huge entities that represent billions of dollars in revenue and yet they still fail to catch people like Lance Armstrong, at least not until long after he got away with it.  

People like you seem to think everything is simple in life.  Oh, just test for this and you will find it.  Sure buddy.  Do you think every person that commits a crime is actually caught in the real world too? 

Its good that you play MMO's because you are living in fantasy land if you think this.

It has nothing to do with "getting caught".  its a matter of making changes to prevent such programs from interacting with the client.  Your analogies are laughable! Do you think people can still dope in the same method Lance did? NO, they've made changes to the testing.

Here's one for you:  A criminal robs the same bank in the same manner for over 4 years, yet nothing changes in regards to preventing future robberies.   

  Boneserino

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Joined: 12/08/07
Posts: 794

9/16/13 7:12:46 PM#15
No point in discussing this any further, thanx for your time!

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  gamekid2k

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Joined: 6/24/12
Posts: 363

9/16/13 11:05:29 PM#16
One way to fight this is to change the memory mapping and keep changing the game engine every week. Forget AV, even Microsoft will not be able to pull this. It is too expensive to maintain .

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  ShortyBible

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9/17/13 1:21:07 AM#17
Originally posted by gamekid2k
One way to fight this is to change the memory mapping and keep changing the game engine every week. Forget AV, even Microsoft will not be able to pull this. It is too expensive to maintain .

So I guess that players that want to play without having to cheat should avoid this game?

http://www.entropiapartners.com/?r=22415

  wrekognize

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Joined: 7/30/07
Posts: 385

9/17/13 8:05:03 AM#18
Originally posted by ShortyBible
Originally posted by gamekid2k
One way to fight this is to change the memory mapping and keep changing the game engine every week. Forget AV, even Microsoft will not be able to pull this. It is too expensive to maintain .

So I guess that players that want to play without having to cheat should avoid this game?

 

The problem is that the company who made this cheat makes cheats for all sorts of games.

Battlefield 3 (and I'm sure 4 after release)

Arma 2

Planetside 2

Diablo 3

Call of Duty 3

Guildwars 2

WarZ

StarCraft 2

 

So DFUW is not the only victim here.

  Yalexy

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Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 1020

9/17/13 8:15:35 AM#19


Originally posted by Boneserino
Yea it seems kind of silly to me when people act all surprised about it. 

I mean really, in a kill or be killed type of game, you never thought people would use this as an advantage?

And since it is a problem in every FPS, it cannot be a simple solution to eradicate it or it would have been done.  You can catch some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.

Another reason why FFA PvP sandbox is a niche game.


There's only one solution to end this problem... getting rid of FPS-combat and return to good old tab-targeting.

EvE Online is a FFA-PvP and doesn't have this problem, because it only uses server-side calculations instead of client-sided like all the FPS-titles.

  User Deleted
9/17/13 9:12:55 AM#20
Originally posted by wrekognize
Originally posted by ShortyBible
Originally posted by gamekid2k
One way to fight this is to change the memory mapping and keep changing the game engine every week. Forget AV, even Microsoft will not be able to pull this. It is too expensive to maintain .

So I guess that players that want to play without having to cheat should avoid this game?

 

The problem is that the company who made this cheat makes cheats for all sorts of games.

Battlefield 3 (and I'm sure 4 after release)

Arma 2

Planetside 2

Diablo 3

Call of Duty 3

Guildwars 2

WarZ

StarCraft 2

 

So DFUW is not the only victim here.

But the other games aren't full loot and you don't lose all your stuff.

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