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  SBFord

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OP  9/12/13 8:26:51 PM#1

MMO developers want their players to be invested in the game. To that end, they try to create ways to immerse players into a living, breathing world. In today's Elder Scrolls Online column, we take a look at the ways ZeniMax is planning to immerse players in the game. Read on and then tell us what you think in the comments.

There’s something we talk about pretty often in the MMO world: immersion. It’s one of those “little things” that makes such a huge difference in how we play and experience any game, not just our MMOs.  It’s about getting lost in the experience, having the world surround you, the narrative envelop you, and finding out several hours later that you skipped dinner and are now going to get three hours of sleep before you have to wake up for work the next day. The Elder Scrolls Online is in a unique position to capitalize on immersion in the MMO space, and today I’d like to point out a few reasons I think this is Zenimax’ unmentioned “killer app” in ESO.

Read more of Bill Murphy's Elder Scrolls Online: Immersion in ESO.


Look familiar? This is The Elder Scrolls at its most quintessential.

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  Naddab

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9/13/13 10:49:28 AM#2
I am really excited to play this game. The one thing I hope they can replicate is having PS4 players and PC players on the same server like FF14. This is a game I could really enjoy sitting on my couch playing through story or just exploring. Then grab my computer and get on vent with my friends to do raids, dungeons, and pvp.
  LordSneerg

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9/13/13 10:52:20 AM#3
I just hope this game delivers. I wss hyped initiallybut now I am just being cautiously ooptimistic.
  Iselin

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9/13/13 11:07:16 AM#4

The minimalist UI is a great trend in many new and upcoming MMOs and ESO is taking it to a different level by fading skills and stats when not needed or at max.

Fully voiced NPCs --whether important or just miscellaneous ones that are there for flavor, was a great feature in Skyrim and will be here as well. MMOs that don't do this (e.g. FF XIV where not even cut scenes are voiced) are looking as dated as text-only adventures.

If only they would add an in-game voice chat system with game-appropriate voice morphing (like SOEmote)...

  DAS1337

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9/13/13 11:28:24 AM#5

Until a game has realistic world housing, I can't be immersed.  Where is everyone living?  Are we all wandering warriors who vanish when we log off?  Do we all stay at inns?  If that is the case, let us rent instanced rooms from the inns, and have them act as banks.

 

Something.  Anything..

  RexKushman

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Joined: 1/13/13
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9/13/13 12:14:32 PM#6
Originally posted by Naddab
I am really excited to play this game. The one thing I hope they can replicate is having PS4 players and PC players on the same server like FF14. This is a game I could really enjoy sitting on my couch playing through story or just exploring. Then grab my computer and get on vent with my friends to do raids, dungeons, and pvp.

This would be awesome but it has already been confirmed that the game is platform locked.

PC with PC

PS4 with PS4

X1 with X1

  Destai

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9/13/13 12:27:21 PM#7
Any chance at immersion is ruined by the faction lock. They have such a great game otherwise.
  Ecoces

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9/13/13 2:26:08 PM#8

who cares about immersion nowadays? just give me a fun MMO with quite a bit of depth. Immersion is just a MMO Hipster word when people have to mindlessly hate on something. "omg the graphics in this game ruin my immersion!" "Omg holiday events ruin my immersion" "omg easter eggs ruin my immersion"

 

and no immersion does not equal depth.

 
  crack_fox

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9/13/13 6:14:49 PM#9
Immersion is not one of the "little things", it's the big thing. The fact that Zenimax appear to understand this is the reason why this game is the only major MMO that I'm excited by. Also very glad that it is platform-locked. 
  EndoRoboto

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9/13/13 6:18:06 PM#10
^ amen brother
  Darkcrystal

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9/13/13 6:26:23 PM#11
Originally posted by crack_fox
Immersion is not one of the "little things", it's the big thing. The fact that Zenimax appear to understand this is the reason why this game is the only major MMO that I'm excited by. Also very glad that it is platform-locked. 

Bad idea to platform lock something, if people try say the reason they like it is because of annoying console players, well guess what PC players are just as bad, I'm a console gamer and been  a PC gamer since I had my commodore... So people need to get that out of there head right now... Stop with those worthless reasons.

  Bladestrom

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9/13/13 6:26:42 PM#12
Depth without immersion a contradiction (or delusion)

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Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR

  Cecropia

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Poacher killer.

9/13/13 7:07:20 PM#13
Originally posted by Ecoces

who cares about immersion nowadays? just give me a fun MMO with quite a bit of depth. Immersion is just a MMO Hipster word when people have to mindlessly hate on something. "omg the graphics in this game ruin my immersion!" "Omg holiday events ruin my immersion" "omg easter eggs ruin my immersion"

 

and no immersion does not equal depth.

 

What in the world are you talking about? Immersion is not an "MMO hipster word", lol.

When you are immersed in any type of entertainment whether it be mmos, movies, a book, a sporting event etc. that particular entertainment product is doing it's job and it's doing it well. When you lose track of time that's when you're really having fun. This is essentially what entertainment is striving to achieve. I've gone to movies and found myself checking my watch within minutes; I was simply not enjoying the film and was certainly not immersed. When I saw World War Z in 3D, I was immersed from the opening scene until the credits rolled up. I actually wanted the film to keep running. Now that was entertainment!

I am genuinely sorry for you that you cannot seem to get immersed (especially in an mmo), but I assure you there are many who do not struggle with immersion and in turn derive much more fun out of a quality entertainment product.

"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

  Leitheudhen

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9/13/13 7:43:53 PM#14
I agree about housing, or Campsites.
  Leitheudhen

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Joined: 9/13/13
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9/13/13 7:52:59 PM#15
I agree 100%. ESO, say no to "Jingle all the Way." (unless it's Krumpus) Or Easter/holiday crap. Unless you make it "completely" LORE friendly, I don't want to see it. I would like an adult MMO please.
  marcust

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9/13/13 9:42:12 PM#16

Please tell me there is no global chat.

All the immersion in the world cannot save us from ourselves.

Playing: GW2, Lotro
Also played and worth mentioning: UO, WoW, Lineage2, Darkfall, TSW, ESO

  Drakephire

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9/13/13 10:12:24 PM#17
Originally posted by marcust

Please tell me there is no global chat.

All the immersion in the world cannot save us from ourselves.

Pointless. People will just use Skype, or Vent, or any other chat utility. Having a global chat in game that players can disable is fine.

  erikkennedy

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9/13/13 11:51:29 PM#18
while the voice overs may have been good in skyrim, there were not enough voices. I got real tired of the same voice actor for so many different npcs.
  Arglebargle

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9/14/13 1:08:00 AM#19

This article reads a lot like someone saying how immersed they were at a football game because of those cool big hot dogs you can get at the concession stands.   

 

All games are abstractions.    Now everything's a trade off, but I don't think they're doing a good job of it.  At least not for what I'd prefer to play.   If the main parts of the game are  done poorly, it really doesn't matter much how well they've done the ancillary bits.

 

I've written this one off:  I predict a big spike of sales at release and then a large drop off in players on the computer end of things.  They should really focus on the console market imo.

 

 

If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  Satyros

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9/14/13 5:11:44 AM#20
Originally posted by Destai
Any chance at immersion is ruined by the faction lock. They have such a great game otherwise.

Faction lock this and faction lock that.. Have you all ever sit back and thought that, maybe, having that rivalry and sense of belonging spicing up and giving meaning to what you do in the game while bringing people together is what's missing from otherwise quality modern mmo?

I remember a hundred people in a raid screaming "For the horde" and playing one game fanaticly for many years. I don't actually see anyone tattooing neither "Proud  Elin" nor "HerpDerp realm for the win!" (gw2) on their faces.

And for that matter, NO, player made guilds-alliances are not the same. No artwork, no lore, no music, no quests to back it up, softcore gamers denied the fun.. The list goes on and on. 

And the worst.. Sub+ box + cash shop. And you keep on crying over your faction locks.

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