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  Shadanwolf

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9/12/13 5:02:09 PM#21

I bought the game expecting world class server vs server (WvW) conflict.

i stopped playing when I discovered the devs had no concept of what world class faction warfare was.

(currently not playing any mmog)

  Zaga

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9/12/13 5:12:28 PM#22
Originally posted by MindTrigger
Originally posted by Scalpless
Asura have lasers, robots, battle suits, teleportation devices and holograms. They had all of them in GW1, too. Why wouldn't they have boomboxes?

You guys are reaching.  Would the Asura, should they invent the boombox, put this music in it?  You can make all the lore excuses you want, but it's really just a toy prop, and an annoying one at that.

Yes, they would. Silly crap which I hate has taken over GW lore, I agree with you there... but this has been hapenning since the introduction of the Asura in GW1. Just look at the character creation options for Asura in GW2 - "your greatest invention was... a personal butler robot" (which probably did something else stupid, I forget).

The issues you point out are not new or a consequence of the boombox... The stupidization (IMHO) of GW lore is a few years old and not many people seem to care as much as we do.

  Nepheth

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9/12/13 5:17:48 PM#23

I understand that people may hate WvW or living story or combat or lore etc.[mod edit]  Asuras can make robots, use beams, create holograms etc. but no they can't use boomboxes... Really!? Seriously that's your excuse for hating a game? God...

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  Nepheth

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9/12/13 5:19:37 PM#24


Originally posted by Zaga

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by Scalpless Asura have lasers, robots, battle suits, teleportation devices and holograms. They had all of them in GW1, too. Why wouldn't they have boomboxes?
You guys are reaching.  Would the Asura, should they invent the boombox, put this music in it?  You can make all the lore excuses you want, but it's really just a toy prop, and an annoying one at that.
Yes, they would. Silly crap which I hate has taken over GW lore, I agree with you there... but this has been hapenning since the introduction of the Asura in GW1. Just look at the character creation options for Asura in GW2 - "your greatest invention was... a personal butler robot" (which probably did something else stupid, I forget).

The issues you point out are not new or a consequence of the boombox... The stupidization (IMHO) of GW lore is a few years old and not many people seem to care as much as we do.



It isn't about care the lore. I'm playing Guild Wars since 2008. And I love Guild Wars. Trust me I care the lore maybe more than you. But this is about matter of taste. I like asuras.I love their lore. I love their "personal butler robot". Sorry but everyone is not like you.

Playing : Final Fantasy XIV - Guild Wars 2 - Wakfu

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  Leiros

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9/12/13 5:25:30 PM#25

I can't resist:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yvEYKRF5IA

 

But yeah, this is why I don't like cash shops etc..

  Falcomith

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9/12/13 5:28:22 PM#26
Originally posted by Wyrdfell

I understand that people may hate WvW or living story or combat or lore etc. [mod edit]. Asuras can make robots, use beams, create holograms etc. but no they can't use boomboxes... Really!? Seriously that's your excuse for hating a game? God...

I think you are over exaggerating anyone hating the game. Some are just speaking there mind about the fluff added that seems, in there opinion to break immersion. You cant tell me you like every aspect of every game you play.

  Bloodaxes

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9/12/13 5:28:27 PM#27

Any news on when the next dragon is supposed to show?

That's what might make me interested again cause I honestly hate hate hate hate fractals they are an abomination and should have never been implemented the way they are.

  neobahamut20

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9/12/13 5:34:54 PM#28

Boombox is fine. I laugh when I see things like that come out and love seeing people using it in game. It's meant to be a fun, non-game-impacting item and that is what it is. They are keeping their promises with that, though they broke them with XP boosters and ascended weapons to name a few. However, of all the things they do wrong, that is not one of them.

 

Remember this:

 Not everyone has a terrible real life and seeks to replace it with an online fantasy life. 

Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.

  Halandir

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9/12/13 5:39:01 PM#29

Too bad this made the game unplayable for you OP.

I have issues with some of Anets choices in GW2 - This one is not on my list though :-)

 

We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
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  elitero

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9/12/13 5:46:49 PM#30
I do not think anyone got the game and said, you know what out all the damn things wrong with this game "this SOB right here the god damned boombox is why I am quiting this game" 
  Torvaldr

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9/12/13 6:04:10 PM#31

I love this stuff if it fits the world. It works for me in GW2 and in AA.  It's like those beach and school episodes of Avatar: The Last Airbender - I see that and think, ah a real world with real world activities.  Think of all the stupid stuff we gloss over for the sake of 'suspension of disbelief'.

Maybe my imagination is a little more permissive than the OP, but things like his complaint with the Asura don't bother me. Tyria has music why wouldn't the Asura make devices to capture that? Why shouldn't they be portable?

I actually have a harder time when "real world" objects are directly copied and transferred into a game like: dogs, cats, cows, and other animals and plants that we find here on earth.  Seriously, does anyone ever think, "How in the hell did this world get cows?" Does the OP consider that the concept of medieval styled weapons and armour into an alien and foreign world is immersion breaking? What are the odds that two different civilizations evolved in two different universes and both invented curved singled edged metal weapons called "scimitars". 

FFXIV has Gold and Basilisks and worst of all Mythril (a copy straight out of another fantasy IP).  Immersion is an extension of our imagination.  Maybe the idea of a "boombox" breaks suspension of disbelief for the OP because it makes them think of those inconsistencies. I would ask him to think about all those other things he currently takes for granted in all his other games.  Immersion breakers abound right and left.

Curse you AquaScum!

  MindTrigger

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OP  9/12/13 6:25:37 PM#32
Originally posted by neobahamut20

Boombox is fine. I laugh when I see things like that come out and love seeing people using it in game. It's meant to be a fun, non-game-impacting item and that is what it is. They are keeping their promises with that, though they broke them with XP boosters and ascended weapons to name a few. However, of all the things they do wrong, that is not one of them.

 

Remember this:

 Not everyone has a terrible real life and seeks to replace it with an online fantasy life. 

So, let me get this straight.  Your assumption is that I have a terrible life, because I want to play games in immersive virtual worlds.  Does that cover it?

I personally read books, watch movies, and play games, because I want to be taken away to the place of the story.  Period.  This has *NOTHING* to do with anyone's life being horrible.  Also, I'm a casual gamer because I run my own business, I'm happily married, and I have several other hobbies.  I get "casual" games.  However, casual doesn't mean it has to be utterly silly either. Especially this game, because it used to be a pretty cool fantasy story setting before it became Candyland.

I asked a simple question after giving my thoughts on the matter.  The first part of your answer was great.  The second part was simply wrong.

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  Hariken

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Joined: 7/15/13
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9/12/13 8:57:24 PM#33
A lot of players are starting to see this game in a new light and not for the better. And having a max lvl character in this game is almost worthless. I just uninstalled the game also. Bought it when it came out and it was fun. But right now it has no direction. The Dev's keep adding temp.crap like that lame super adventure box. Nothing to do with lore or anything. And seeing player's running around with boomboxes is just to stupid for me.
  KhinRunite

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9/12/13 9:03:47 PM#34
Originally posted by MindTrigger

What do you guys think?  Does stuff like this Boombox ruin immersion for you, or do you like these kinds of toys in the game?

I think it's fine. This is (just a) a game afterall. The moment I've learned about Asura and their inclination to technology I already foresaw a lot of quirky, seemingly out of the world objects to be introduced. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL if one day Asuras managed to pull a Ferrari from "Earth's dimension" and bring it to Tyria.

And you know what? They don't bother me, because it's only logical.

  RizelStar

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9/12/13 9:29:48 PM#35

Edited: Wow the start of what i say, while being true and straight up, does sound a bit harsh and like I'm heart broken, which of course isn't the case.

 

Ahh okay so the game wasn't for you and still is not for you, and I'm glad you unistalled it cause as a fan of the game but at the same time thinking a head, it won't be for you in the future. I think sandboxes are for you, which again, is nothing bad at all, I think sandboxes are fun as well, you looking for virtual homes, at least that's what I remember seeing, and I know housing doesn't count for that ha ha.(Which GW2 doesn't have either [yet])

 

BoomBoxes doesn't break the immersion since lasers and robots exist, it's a prop to have fun with, I'm surprised boxing gloves didnt make you delete the game months ago...

 

Anyway, please don't reinstall the game months later, then come back and attempt to trash it, some people do that to themselves and it's like cutting your wrist. Course at least your not one of those guys who spent 1000+ hours on that game and had that thought right...right?(I hope I'm right lol).

 

 

 

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  Torvaldr

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9/12/13 9:40:54 PM#36
I like your posts Rizel.

Curse you AquaScum!

  MindTrigger

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OP  9/12/13 10:56:00 PM#37
Originally posted by RizelStar

Edited: Wow the start of what i say, while being true and straight up, does sound a bit harsh and like I'm heart broken, which of course isn't the case.

 

Ahh okay so the game wasn't for you and still is not for you, and I'm glad you unistalled it cause as a fan of the game but at the same time thinking a head, it won't be for you in the future. I think sandboxes are for you, which again, is nothing bad at all, I think sandboxes are fun as well, you looking for virtual homes, at least that's what I remember seeing, and I know housing doesn't count for that ha ha.(Which GW2 doesn't have either [yet])

 

BoomBoxes doesn't break the immersion since lasers and robots exist, it's a prop to have fun with, I'm surprised boxing gloves didnt make you delete the game months ago...

 

Anyway, please don't reinstall the game months later, then come back and attempt to trash it, some people do that to themselves and it's like cutting your wrist. Course at least your not one of those guys who spent 1000+ hours on that game and had that thought right...right?(I hope I'm right lol).

 

I'll do what I want with my game, thank you, which includes bashing it in the future if I so desire.  Thanks for your input.

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  Loktofeit

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9/12/13 11:00:41 PM#38
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by MindTrigger
Originally posted by Scalpless
Asura have lasers, robots, battle suits, teleportation devices and holograms. They had all of them in GW1, too. Why wouldn't they have boomboxes?

You guys are reaching.  Would the Asura, should they invent the boombox, put this music in it?  You can make all the lore excuses you want, but it's really just a toy prop, and an annoying one at that.

Would the race of quirky, borderline crazy inventors put weird music in their boombox? Yes, they probably would.

 

HOW DARE THEY??!?!

 

 

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  bcbully

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9/12/13 11:23:03 PM#39
I still rember going into the mists, first day. Going over to the spvp guy to join and seeing 1, sever 2, server 3 ect.... then the next day seeing a chick with boxing gloves doing batman wham pow emotes. Shockinly immersion breaking. Sunglasses and boomboxes, necromancers and warriors? Wtf?

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  djazzy

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9/13/13 12:15:27 AM#40
Originally posted by MindTrigger
Originally posted by RizelStar

Edited: Wow the start of what i say, while being true and straight up, does sound a bit harsh and like I'm heart broken, which of course isn't the case.

 

Ahh okay so the game wasn't for you and still is not for you, and I'm glad you unistalled it cause as a fan of the game but at the same time thinking a head, it won't be for you in the future. I think sandboxes are for you, which again, is nothing bad at all, I think sandboxes are fun as well, you looking for virtual homes, at least that's what I remember seeing, and I know housing doesn't count for that ha ha.(Which GW2 doesn't have either [yet])

 

BoomBoxes doesn't break the immersion since lasers and robots exist, it's a prop to have fun with, I'm surprised boxing gloves didnt make you delete the game months ago...

 

Anyway, please don't reinstall the game months later, then come back and attempt to trash it, some people do that to themselves and it's like cutting your wrist. Course at least your not one of those guys who spent 1000+ hours on that game and had that thought right...right?(I hope I'm right lol).

 

I'll do what I want with my game, thank you, which includes bashing it in the future if I so desire.  Thanks for your input.

And don't be surprised to see people call you out on it as well

 

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