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  udon

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9/12/13 10:14:55 AM#21
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
I think a lot of excitement died out when devs said that end game is for hardcore players only and that they don't care. I guess this game appeals to a small percentage of hardcore raiders who enjoy gear treadmill.

I think that's exactly the kind of attitude you do need to take to make a P2P MMO in this day and age.  If you expect people to sub to your game for years on end you need to give them content that takes years to complete and that means "hardcore".  PVP could be a second option but that market is so flickle that getting that crowd to stick around in large numbers long term is pretty difficult.

If you want to make a game that is consumed in 30-60 days than thrown aside maybe to be revisited every few months than F2P or B2P (I honestly don't see much difference these days) is the best model for it.  You can get as many people into your game as possible without the box fee and design it around maximizing profits during that short time the player will stick around before jumping off to something else.  if you want to design a P2P game you need to make it hard, you need to make it take teamwork, and you need to build systems that promote social interactions.  I think a steep small group/raid content treadmill that takes years to complete if ever is a pretty good way to do that don't you?

  Kyelthis

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9/16/13 10:01:03 PM#22
Originally posted by Gardavsshade
Originally posted by darthbuh

Yes, but one player or a few versus the majority will make this decision.  Whip out your credit card, step up, and try to alter this game's future.

 

But you won't.

I won't that is correct.... it's not the SciFi MMO product that I and others desire....

a SciFi MMO that looks like a Saturday Morning cartoon? It should have looked like Alien/Prometheus/Predator.... not warm and fuzzy cartoon graphics...

Maybe the reason Wildstar isn't doing as good as it could be is because the Devs missed the boat when they chose a graphics style that doesn't seem to fit for a SciFi game (some of us feel that way, I am not the only one that has expressed this opinion).

I understand that Wildstar is in fact a great MMO (or I should say will be), I understand many like how it's getting made, however....

Some of us Players have been waiting for a good, thorough, mostly Adult oriented, realistic, gritty, scary, dark  SciFi MMO for YEARS. Wildstar isn't it.

We want an alternative to EvE.

 

A sci-fi game doesn't have to look super realistic, just look at Borderlands. Highly successful sci-fi game that uses cell shading to convey their world and characters. Wildstar was never meant to dethrone Eve, it's a different type of MMO and imo, it looks just fine.
  Grummus

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Joined: 7/28/13
Posts: 117

9/17/13 2:32:42 AM#23
Originally posted by darthbuh

The problem is the P2P model they've chosen, at least in my opinion.

 

Many new MMORPGs are going wtih a F2P / hybrid model for subscription.  This varies from GW2 (B2P) to RIFT (F2P) and everything in-between.

 

There is nothing wrong with a P2P model, assuming that the game has enough content; players use WoW as a basis of argument, but forget / neglect the fact that there is over a half a decade of development in the game's content.

 

Are you willing to pay $59.99 for a game box with 30 days of time, and then $180 yearly for a game that may or may not have extensive end-game content? (multiple raids, multiple PvP options, structured advancement, sophisticated crafting, etc)

 

Or would you rather let it all pan out, and see if the game can stand on its own, without your support?

 

Time will tell.

 

I would pay $1000 dollars for a MMO that could keep me busy [i]and entertained[/i] for six months instead of six hours, or six days, or six weeks.
  psiic

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Joined: 6/03/09
Posts: 639

9/17/13 2:35:26 AM#24
It's quite because the Closed Beta has been down for a month now as they " restructure " the game whatever the hell that means.
  killion81

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Joined: 8/31/06
Posts: 894

9/18/13 11:38:53 AM#25
Originally posted by darthbuh

The problem is the P2P model they've chosen, at least in my opinion.

 

Many new MMORPGs are going wtih a F2P / hybrid model for subscription.  This varies from GW2 (B2P) to RIFT (F2P) and everything in-between.

 

There is nothing wrong with a P2P model, assuming that the game has enough content; players use WoW as a basis of argument, but forget / neglect the fact that there is over a half a decade of development in the game's content.

 

Are you willing to pay $59.99 for a game box with 30 days of time, and then $180 yearly for a game that may or may not have extensive end-game content? (multiple raids, multiple PvP options, structured advancement, sophisticated crafting, etc)

 

Or would you rather let it all pan out, and see if the game can stand on its own, without your support?

 

Time will tell.

 

I don't think they are going for the segment of the audience that chooses games based primarily on payment model.  Personally, I rate games on how much fun they are to play regardless of the payment model.  If people won't pay for a subscription, why would a game developer want to cater to them?  They are in the business of making money just like everyone else.

 

I have no problem dropping $60 on a month's worth of entertainment and if it continues to entertain me beyond that month at $15 monthly, it's a fantastic deal.  

  psiic

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Joined: 6/03/09
Posts: 639

9/18/13 2:50:37 PM#26

What really boggles my mind is that Wildstar is technically slotted to compete with their own game GuildWars 2.

 

 

And yet they are going to have 2 different business models in place. 

 

Either brilliant or idiotic, and I lean towards idiotic.

  ariboersma

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Joined: 9/26/11
Posts: 1817

9/18/13 2:53:36 PM#27
Originally posted by Br3akingDawn
The calm before the storm...

this.. but with 2 cons behind them.. another incoming and a release time... did you expect to hear a ton? They have got to be up to their ears in stuff to do. Although I would agree with some in this thread.. a beta invite would be nice ;)

  ariboersma

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9/18/13 2:54:59 PM#28
Originally posted by psiic

What really boggles my mind is that Wildstar is technically slotted to compete with their own game GuildWars 2.

 

 

And yet they are going to have 2 different business models in place. 

 

Either brilliant or idiotic, and I lean towards idiotic.

same producer... completely different developing companies and really they are quite different games as well as payment models.

  Tinybina

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Joined: 1/28/04
Posts: 2119

9/18/13 3:07:51 PM#29
Originally posted by psiic
It's quite because the Closed Beta has been down for a month now as they " restructure " the game whatever the hell that means.

 

This^

 

All the other reasons are way off.

 

Changes are coming to Wildstar to show they have listened to their testers and people at their shows.   Unlike some games that wait until their game has been released and failed and then try to listen to what they were told during beta.  Yes, I'm looking at you SOE (Planetside 2).

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  Naral

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Joined: 1/07/10
Posts: 752

9/18/13 3:12:34 PM#30
I think it is largely a case of people being busy giving FF14 a handy, or arguing about the EQN art style.
  User Deleted
9/18/13 8:06:46 PM#31
Originally posted by udon
Originally posted by Bigdaddyx
I think a lot of excitement died out when devs said that end game is for hardcore players only and that they don't care. I guess this game appeals to a small percentage of hardcore raiders who enjoy gear treadmill.

I think that's exactly the kind of attitude you do need to take to make a P2P MMO in this day and age.  If you expect people to sub to your game for years on end you need to give them content that takes years to complete and that means "hardcore".  PVP could be a second option but that market is so flickle that getting that crowd to stick around in large numbers long term is pretty difficult.

If you want to make a game that is consumed in 30-60 days than thrown aside maybe to be revisited every few months than F2P or B2P (I honestly don't see much difference these days) is the best model for it.  You can get as many people into your game as possible without the box fee and design it around maximizing profits during that short time the player will stick around before jumping off to something else.  if you want to design a P2P game you need to make it hard, you need to make it take teamwork, and you need to build systems that promote social interactions.  I think a steep small group/raid content treadmill that takes years to complete if ever is a pretty good way to do that don't you?

 You don't need to be hardcore to enjoy a very lengthy endgame "gear treadmill" and lets be honest here...in any game that isn't a sandbox based on community metagaming...endgame is always gear treadmill or pvp grind...sure you can innovate like gw2 and just delete the reward and group mechanics...but your still running endgame pvp and pve over and over again.

Needless to say, if you hate this kind of stuff...there are TONS of non mmorpg games out there that don't have these mechanics...also there are sandbox games that offer politics and metagame as the endgame.

I like the old school raiding.  I like sandbox endgame.  I flip back and forth as I wish...I certainly don't whine about what is honestly a core component of mmorpgs...if I had problems with it I would spend more time on steam, in mmo shooters, in FPS games with multiplayer, in fantasy based deathmatch games like forge or chivalry, hell even mobas.

I also hate the fear people have in not getting in all and clearing the entire game in under a month.  I WANT to be playing for months/years and not have it all in game.  I don't want to breeze through progression then be given the best raid gear in a month or two...that's a game you leave after two months not a game you stick with for years.

Sadly I don't think its possible to have a game like that in todays instant gratification world.  So they give you a free pass on getting to endgame, ramp up the time and difficulty, people complain they cant get it all in a week of endgame and unsub...

 

  User Deleted
9/18/13 8:14:18 PM#32
This game would have rocked worlds if it would have launched right along side ff arr, at this point though, I dont know when a good time to launch will be. They would be stupid to launch up against eqnext. If they can I would say launch should be Jan 3rd week of 2014 I guess. Wow xpac will be dead, eq next landmark will start to get old and they can beat eso to the punch.
  Daessar

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Joined: 4/20/13
Posts: 207

9/21/13 10:24:32 PM#33

It doesn't make any difference when they launch it, as there isn't another game targeting a hardcore raider base with a vertical endgame progression.  Eqnext does not have that type of endgame, nor do they even have a holy trinity, and I doubt they are going with a traditional Pvp battleground/arena system either.

Completely different audience just as Guild Wars is a completely different audience who is attracted to a non-raid, gear normalization, non-group dependent, F2P style of MMO.

  Thupli

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Joined: 7/25/11
Posts: 426

9/21/13 10:54:29 PM#34
Originally posted by Tinybina

Changes are coming to Wildstar to show they have listened to their testers and people at their shows.   Unlike some games that wait until their game has been released and failed and then try to listen to what they were told during beta. 

Quoted for truth.  The subtlety of the fact that it's hard to not hear exciting changes, but knowing that they are taking beta feedback seriously and getting the work done is huge. 

 

This really could be a spiritual successor to WOW.

 

 

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