Trending Games | Guild Wars 2 | Elder Scrolls Online | Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn | Star Wars: The Old Republic

  Network:  RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,964,758 Users Online:0
Games:812  Posts:6,413,300
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online AD2460 ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord 2 Archlord X Armored Warfare Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Bionic Marine Command Online Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blackguards 2 Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodborne Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chroma Squad Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crowfall Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Heart Online Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dying Light Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthlock: Festival of Magic Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Fable Legends Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GRAV GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods Rush Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Hand of Fate Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Immune Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online Kill Strain King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lords of the Fallen 2 Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Hunter 4: Ultimate Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Necropolis Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Nova Genesis Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Chronicles Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Coast Legends Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Banner Saga 2 The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Trapped Dead: Lockdown Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utherous Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles 3D Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn 

General Discussion  » Force players to use authenticator/one time password

18 posts found
  gessekai332

Novice Member

Joined: 3/31/07
Posts: 891

 
OP  9/10/13 7:58:25 PM#1

I honestly think the authenticator password should be mandatory. Theres a ton of bots in game and almost all of them are hacked accounts. mmorpgs should just force the use of authenticators so this doesnt happen. most people arent stupid enough to fall for phishing scams, have unique passwords, and they dont buy gold, but they still get hacked anyway. I find that a lot of 3rd party websites targetted to the mmorpg of choice, have lot of security flaws and are even displaying banner ads asking you to buy gold for that specific game. I'm pretty sure this is how a lot of people are getting infected and their passwords stolen, from visiting ffxiv wiki or something to just look up skills or an item and then having some malicious script install a keylogger or worm into their computer. honestly, when i visit one of those ffxiv wiki's i feel like they are being hosted by the same companies running illegal streaming sites, except now the people installing viruses know exactly what virus to send to my computer to get my information.

 

i hate bots and gold sellers, they along with people who buy from them should just die.

Most memorable games: AoC(Tryanny PvP), RIFT, GW, GW2, Ragnarok Online, Aion, FFXI, FFXIV, Secret World, League of Legends (Silver II rank)

  DMKano

Elite Member

Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 7575

9/10/13 8:15:48 PM#2

They can't force it - not everyone has a smartphone (believe it or not) and some folks are not willing to buy the physical fob.

They should let players use Google authenticator as it supports multiple apps (each game would still generate a unique code, but they would all be listed under Google Authenticator).

Currently I have a Rift app, Battle.net, Square Enix - I could have an entire screen on my phone with authenticator apps, its just dumb.

But they'd have to pay Google, oh well.

 

  GeezerGamer

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 5647

9/10/13 9:27:10 PM#3

I agree, but we are talking about the same people who probably have the one password does it all mentality. So they replicate their passwords on every online resource they ever use.

I once had my WoW account hacked. They didn't actually hack my WoW account. they hacked my email account and changed my WoW password through battlenet. Since then, I use a spreadsheet. All my passwords are on it. and are NEVER EVER keyed. Even the original paste are cut n pasted from other sources. Once it's on the sheet, I'll never key it in anywhere.

Well, for FF14, I don't care since I use the OTP.

Beyond that, I have a speparate password for everything I do, no password is duplicated anywhere. I use NoScript in Firefox, along with Antivirus and SpyBot. I keep regular updates and active scans. I probably don't need OTP but I won't take any chances.

And frankly, if you are going to pay a monthly sub, not getting the authenticator is a bit ridiculous. Frankly, they should have charged $40 for the game and mailed them out to everyone.

I find it interesting how video games have the lowest success rate and the highest totals raised in all Kickstarter projects.
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/172837/Kickstarter_success_rate_for_games_even_lower_than_initially_reported.php

  Lugors

Advanced Member

Joined: 10/06/12
Posts: 183

9/10/13 9:43:04 PM#4

I looked at this option, but there are fair amount of comments on the SE mobile authenticator regarding problems.  Specifically, the mobile app bugs out, and will lock you out of your account when it does so. That coupled with the lack of responsive and competent customer service make this a non starter.

  Ridelynn

Elite Member

Joined: 12/19/10
Posts: 3940

9/10/13 9:49:43 PM#5

Mandatory - no.

But for FFXI they did offer incentives, like extra bag space, if you linked an authenticator to your account. I can see them doing something similar here.

They do ship the authenticator with the physical CE edition. And they make the mobile app available for free...

Authenticators don't fix everything, and I find them to be a royal pain in the ass to have to use -- especially since you can't even log into the Lodestone without it (and I'd like to check from work, but damn, left my fob at home) but they go a very long way to helping.

  svann

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/06/06
Posts: 1637

9/10/13 10:34:47 PM#6
They are a pain, and I was thinking of unlinking mine, but with the amount of stolen accounts we are seeing no way.  Imagine getting your account stolen, spending hours getting through to customer support, and then when you get back in game half the server has you on blacklist because of gil seller spamming.
  rojoArcueid

Elite Member

Joined: 8/13/09
Posts: 6277

"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

9/10/13 10:50:03 PM#7

is not the companies fault that careless people get hacked.

 

Fortunately i have never been hacked, but it is not a coincidence that i happen to use long passwords mixed with numbers, symbols, capital and lower case letters, making words not found in dictionaries. And i am not lazy about my accounts security so i do that with every account i have.

 

I also have a physical paper full of passwords in case i forget them (which i tend to do, a lot of times), nobody enters my room so it is safe here.

 

Also keep the computer clean. People shouldnt point fingers other than to themselves when they arent doing their homework then get hacked because of it. The authenticator is a nice little helper but i only use it in WoW. Relying too much on authenticators would deter (IMO) my habit of securing long and dificult passwords.

  spankybus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/20/05
Posts: 1171

"Don''t touch that squirrel''s nuts!" - Willy Wonka

9/10/13 11:21:58 PM#8
Originally posted by rojo6934

is not the companies fault that careless people get hacked.

 

Fortunately i have never been hacked, but it is not a coincidence that i happen to use long passwords mixed with numbers, symbols, capital and lower case letters, making words not found in dictionaries. And i am not lazy about my accounts security so i do that with every account i have.

 

I also have a physical paper full of passwords in case i forget them (which i tend to do, a lot of times), nobody enters my room so it is safe here.

 

Also keep the computer clean. People shouldnt point fingers other than to themselves when they arent doing their homework then get hacked because of it. The authenticator is a nice little helper but i only use it in WoW. Relying too much on authenticators would deter (IMO) my habit of securing long and dificult passwords.

For a lot of people, I think they get key logger software loaded onto their machine by going to FFXIV information websites that are created by RTM houses. If I remember, Alla Kazham was suspected of doing this to people...they host a ton of helpful info on the game, quests, etc...and while yer there, you get a key logger and bam, your acct is hacked.

 

shady, shady people out there.

Frank 'Spankybus' Mignone
www.spankybus.com
-3d Artist & Compositor
-Writer
-Professional Amature

  Swedish_Chef

Novice Member

Joined: 8/26/13
Posts: 225

Bort bort bort!

9/10/13 11:31:10 PM#9

Not mandatory. Not everybody has a smart phone (I personally hate the blasted things), and there's really no practical way to get authenticators to people who buy digital copies without making them wait a few days (or longer) after they register their game code to play. I suppose a 'grace period' could be offered, but that presents its own set of problems.

I do feel that there's absolutely no reason why any P2P or B2P MMO shouldn't have both a software based and physical one as an available security option, and a physical one should be included in the contents of any boxed copies of an online game sold.

Much like vehicle security systems, they won't stop a determined professional but they'll certainly ruin an average thief's day.

  DMKano

Elite Member

Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 7575

9/11/13 12:31:46 AM#10

I actually don't know any of my game passwords - I don't need to - just need to know the password to get into my password program keeper (I use LastPass and KeePass) and that's it. What's nice about these apps is that they don't keep the pwd in your clipboard, it auto-flushes them from memory after 10seconds. 

I don't even know my email passwords at this point.

They are all a complete mishmash of characters and always the max length.

stuff like this (example - not an actual pswd lol) 

\S+Nyz8ZIk,BW.1H

No way in hell I could remember that even if I wanted to... let alone remember multiple ones like that.. forget it.

 

The other *must* is using authenticator apps for email AND games!

 

  DMKano

Elite Member

Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 7575

9/11/13 12:36:31 AM#11
Originally posted by spankybus
Originally posted by rojo6934

is not the companies fault that careless people get hacked.

 

Fortunately i have never been hacked, but it is not a coincidence that i happen to use long passwords mixed with numbers, symbols, capital and lower case letters, making words not found in dictionaries. And i am not lazy about my accounts security so i do that with every account i have.

 

I also have a physical paper full of passwords in case i forget them (which i tend to do, a lot of times), nobody enters my room so it is safe here.

 

Also keep the computer clean. People shouldnt point fingers other than to themselves when they arent doing their homework then get hacked because of it. The authenticator is a nice little helper but i only use it in WoW. Relying too much on authenticators would deter (IMO) my habit of securing long and dificult passwords.

For a lot of people, I think they get key logger software loaded onto their machine by going to FFXIV information websites that are created by RTM houses. If I remember, Alla Kazham was suspected of doing this to people...they host a ton of helpful info on the game, quests, etc...and while yer there, you get a key logger and bam, your acct is hacked.

 

shady, shady people out there.

 

Keyloggers are extremely rare these days(almost extinct), by far most account hacks are done via using database info from game companies that were breached.

Email phishing would be the 2nd most popular.

 

  SpottyGekko

Elite Member

Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 3517

9/11/13 2:57:35 AM#12
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by spankybus
Originally posted by rojo6934

is not the companies fault that careless people get hacked.

 

Fortunately i have never been hacked, but it is not a coincidence that i happen to use long passwords mixed with numbers, symbols, capital and lower case letters, making words not found in dictionaries. And i am not lazy about my accounts security so i do that with every account i have.

 

I also have a physical paper full of passwords in case i forget them (which i tend to do, a lot of times), nobody enters my room so it is safe here.

 

Also keep the computer clean. People shouldnt point fingers other than to themselves when they arent doing their homework then get hacked because of it. The authenticator is a nice little helper but i only use it in WoW. Relying too much on authenticators would deter (IMO) my habit of securing long and dificult passwords.

For a lot of people, I think they get key logger software loaded onto their machine by going to FFXIV information websites that are created by RTM houses. If I remember, Alla Kazham was suspected of doing this to people...they host a ton of helpful info on the game, quests, etc...and while yer there, you get a key logger and bam, your acct is hacked.

 

shady, shady people out there.

 

Keyloggers are extremely rare these days(almost extinct), by far most account hacks are done via using database info from game companies that were breached.

Email phishing would be the 2nd most popular.

 

Indeed.

It's far less effort on the part of the "account hacker" to just create a fake website and then send out 500K (fully automated) phishing emails. The recipients of the emails will do the rest, the hacker simply sits back and harvests the incoming passwords.

3rd party fansites for games are really useful, but I doubt they spend much money on security and/or database encryption. They almost all have user registration databases (those details can be monetized), but I'd not be in the least surprised if they are regularly hacked and have all their registration details stolen. They probably don't really care, anyway. People that use the same password for everything are at major risk there.

 

I use different and reasonably complex passwords for every single website or game that requires one. I'm paranoid about emails and I will NEVER click on a link in a mail if there is any other way of logging into the website and getting the action performed. There usually is, the email links are almost always for convenience only. I have never had a game account hacked in 13 years of online gaming. Maybe I'm just lucky.

  JeroKane

Elite Member

Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 5397

9/11/13 3:06:53 AM#13
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by spankybus
Originally posted by rojo6934

is not the companies fault that careless people get hacked.

 

Fortunately i have never been hacked, but it is not a coincidence that i happen to use long passwords mixed with numbers, symbols, capital and lower case letters, making words not found in dictionaries. And i am not lazy about my accounts security so i do that with every account i have.

 

I also have a physical paper full of passwords in case i forget them (which i tend to do, a lot of times), nobody enters my room so it is safe here.

 

Also keep the computer clean. People shouldnt point fingers other than to themselves when they arent doing their homework then get hacked because of it. The authenticator is a nice little helper but i only use it in WoW. Relying too much on authenticators would deter (IMO) my habit of securing long and dificult passwords.

For a lot of people, I think they get key logger software loaded onto their machine by going to FFXIV information websites that are created by RTM houses. If I remember, Alla Kazham was suspected of doing this to people...they host a ton of helpful info on the game, quests, etc...and while yer there, you get a key logger and bam, your acct is hacked.

 

shady, shady people out there.

 

Keyloggers are extremely rare these days(almost extinct), by far most account hacks are done via using database info from game companies that were breached.

Email phishing would be the 2nd most popular.

 

This, especially With up to date Security (anti mallware and anti virus) it´s almost impossible to get keyloggers installed anymore.

Except for Internet Cafes tho! There People can install mallware and sit behind you on another computer and Fish Your account info away via the network.

Most People get hacked who use the same password everywhere else, like public sites, forums, guild sites, etc that have very low Security and are easily hacked.

  Justsomenoob

Novice Member

Joined: 10/20/10
Posts: 871

9/11/13 9:31:49 AM#14

Not that there's anything wrong with doing so, but going out of your way to use these complicated 15 character passwords that use a bunch of symbols does next to nothing to make these online accounts more secure.

 

The accounts being compromised aren't being "guessed".   They aren't being brute forced and gotten into because the password wasn't strong enough.   They're one shot, first login attempts because they got the password in full from another source.  

 

 

  Reizla

Elite Member

Joined: 12/09/08
Posts: 3234

MMORPGs are no longer about the mass multi-user

9/11/13 9:42:04 AM#15
Originally posted by DMKano

They can't force it - not everyone has a smartphone (believe it or not) and some folks are not willing to buy the physical fob.

They should let players use Google authenticator as it supports multiple apps (each game would still generate a unique code, but they would all be listed under Google Authenticator).

Currently I have a Rift app, Battle.net, Square Enix - I could have an entire screen on my phone with authenticator apps, its just dumb.

But they'd have to pay Google, oh well.

Or not eveyone has a iPhone/Android smartphone. My smartphone is of an older generation (Nokia C6 running Symbian) and I'm not gonna exchange it for an iPhone or Android monstrosity ;-)

About the Google app... I hate it that it's 'locked' behind the Google Play store. I do have an Android MP3-player, but that one (like most native MP3-players) is no Google Play supported device. I'd love to use the Android app on that thing, but too bad I can't download it :-(

With all those hacked accounts and the need of more security I decided to buy the physical authenticator today. Also because I'm planning on playing FFXIV:ARR for the coming months (year?). Sadly though, the SOE & Blizzard authenticators can't be used for FFXIV:ARR, where I can use the 2 of them for each other's service...

Demigoth's RPG adventures ~ My blog

AsRock 990FX Extreme3
AMD Phenom II 1090T ~3.2Ghz
GEiL 16Gb DDR3 1600Mhz
ASUS GTX660 3x HD monitor spanned 5760x1080
Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion

  timeraider

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/20/11
Posts: 561

9/12/13 3:29:39 PM#16
Hate bots and goldsellers to, but disagree with your idea anyway.
  Kayo45

Novice Member

Joined: 7/01/13
Posts: 296

9/12/13 4:03:38 PM#17

No ... not everyone has smartphones nor should everyone be forced to buy the keychain thing. They couldve just included it with every purchase of the game but that ship has sailed now.

  Voqar

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/28/04
Posts: 504

9/12/13 5:08:04 PM#18

I don't think authenticator or one-time password stuff is necessary.

 

They could force a password reset and force strong passwords.  This is a bit less of a pain for users.  ANet did it early on with GW2 if memory servers due to the number of morons getting hacked.

 

People *should* start learning (years ago) to use basic common sense when it comes to security and the web.

 

If you use the same usernames and passwords across sites and games or use anything but strong passwords, you are pretty much asking to be hacked.

 

I'm getting pretty tired of seeing threads about people getting hacked and blaming everyone but themselves.  It's not SE's fault if your computer is a cesspool, you lack basic common sense, and you're too stupid and lazy to do very simple things to protect your data.

 

I'm also tired of gil spammers.  Yeah, SE could do *ANYTHING/SOMETHING* to filter the spam, or since it's P2P they could actually have GMs that keep chat clear.  But SE has so far proven to be pretty much all around inept.  Most of the gil spammers I've seen are most likely from hacked accounts.  So, hey players, wake the hell up and protect your accounts!

 

You can use Microsoft Security Essentials for FREE (and it's decently regarded) virus protection.  Since it's by MS it is completely seamless with windows and you'll never know it's there, unlike a lot of other virus protection software that is bloated, generally annoying, AND costs yearly fees.  Keeping your machine free of keyloggers, Trojans, and viruses is very basic security.  Install once and never think about it again.  MS SE works with windows going back to XP and has been around for years now.  There's no excuse for not having virus protection when you can get quality protection for free.

 

You can use a program like KeePass to generate unique and highly complex passwords for all the forums and games you use.  KeePass is an encrypted password database - all you'll ever need with this type of program is to remember the password for IT.  This is a very simple way to add a huge amount of protection to your logins.  YOU won't even know your passwords (you can look at them but it's not exactly easy to remember 12-20 digit mixes of random characters, numbers, and symbols).  KeePass lets you create passwords of different lenths or customize your own creation schemes for those amazingly lame entities that don't let you have long passwords (really, really annoying in this day and age of hacking and security).

 

Unfortunately a lot of games use your email address for a login.  Unless you create a bunch of different accounts or a new account for each game you play, you are very likely already at risk due to this.  Email addresses get passed around like sorority chicks.  If a potential hacker has your username, you're already half way cracked.  It is imperative that you use a very strong unique password for any game where you're using an email address that you use anywhere else.

 

It's hard to teach common sense but treat the web with caution.  Be a "defensive user."  No game company will ever ask you for the password to your account.  Anybody asking for that is trying to scam you.  Ie, do not ever give your password to anybody.  Learn to differentiate between quality online resources and crappy ones that are likely going to be littered with e-garbage (like Trojans and stuff).  If you buy gill from RMT and/or use any other TOS breaking junk, you not only risk losing your account if SE catches and punishes you, but obviously dealing with scumbags is a great way to compromise your account and data since they're not exactly giving a crap about anything except easy money.

 

Premium MMORPGs do not feature built-in cheating via cash for gold pay 2 win. PLAY to win or don't play.