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  Brenics

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Joined: 11/29/06
Posts: 157

9/09/13 8:56:12 PM#21
Thank you for that, just made up my mind not to buy the game.
  bizoux86

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Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 85

9/09/13 9:01:06 PM#22
Yeah this was incredibly disappointing to me this evening.... I logged in and was just bombarded with gold spam it took me about 10 minutes to type in every name and blacklist them. What an awful way to start a gaming session, why is it that they can literally spam the chat without any penalty? They better get a handle on this because endless gold spammers are a HUGE game breaker for me... I've never played a P2P game that had such a gold spammer problem. I hope that they figure out a system for easily reporting/blocking these accounts.
  Aori

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Joined: 1/28/06
Posts: 1787

9/09/13 11:59:12 PM#23
Originally posted by Brenics
Thank you for that, just made up my mind not to buy the game.

So because people let themselves get compromised, which allows the sellers to spam.. makes you not want to play the game?

  SpottyGekko

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Joined: 9/26/04
Posts: 2874

9/10/13 12:18:24 AM#24
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Brenics
Thank you for that, just made up my mind not to buy the game.

So because people let themselves get compromised, which allows the sellers to spam.. makes you not want to play the game?

Yeah, some people will come up with the most ridiculous justifications for why they don't want to buy the game.

It's almost as if they desperately need a good reason to explain to the world why THEY are not playing a game that everyone else is playing...

  SgtPepperUK

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Joined: 8/03/13
Posts: 27

9/10/13 12:59:29 AM#25
Originally posted by Reizla
Originally posted by atenema
Originally posted by Torvaldr

There goes the idea that subscriptions mean less gold spam and botting. None of us with any experience or common sense thought that anyway.

@atenema - can't you right click the name in chat and report or ignore them?

Surprisingly not. The only options are to 'Send Tell', 'Invite to Party' and 'Friend Request'.

I would figure having a "Report Spam" /" Blacklist" option would be the norm at this point.

Best way to easy blacklist these spammers:

  • right-click name and select reply
  • use shift to mark name and press CTRL-C
  • open social panel - blacklist
  • add person to blacklist - CTRL-V
Though still not very fast, it's the best way to make sure you have the right name to add to the blacklist.
 
...and yeah... gilsellers are appearing more and more :'(

Or, similarly, do steps 1 and 2 then type /blist add "(ctrl-v to paste name here)".

 

tbf I think SE are doing ok on this, Sunday for instance I saw no RMT spam. So, SE are definitely following up on reports that are submitted and will hopefully make it easier to report/blacklist soon.

Think about it, nobody wants to die, there's rules to this game son, I'm justified.

  Aori

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Joined: 1/28/06
Posts: 1787

9/10/13 1:06:12 AM#26
Originally posted by SpottyGekko
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by Brenics
Thank you for that, just made up my mind not to buy the game.

So because people let themselves get compromised, which allows the sellers to spam.. makes you not want to play the game?

Yeah, some people will come up with the most ridiculous justifications for why they don't want to buy the game.

It's almost as if they desperately need a good reason to explain to the world why THEY are not playing a game that everyone else is playing...

It is weird, the person spoke as if on the fence about it and this was the determining factor lol. Oh well, their loss it is well worth the box price for the first month alone if you like JRPG's to any degree anyways.

  Dranean

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Joined: 1/06/10
Posts: 79

9/10/13 1:21:10 AM#27
Originally posted by grimgryphon

Posted on Twitter by Mr. VanOrd himself...

Sooner or later this will become better.

  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 5012

9/10/13 2:10:47 AM#28
Originally posted by Sk1ppeR

I remember Gw2 being literally nucked by botnets to brute force account data since day one. What they did was to implement SICK security systems and guidelines for a minimum time. Let's see how long it takes Square to protect its users. Being all premium and whatnot :) Fast forward a month or so onward ... there hasn't been a single gold spam in the chat in Gw2.

 

so...all your P2P fallacies are just that ... fallacies. A way for you to explain to yourself why are you supposed to pay a monthly sub for a service that should otherwise be already there regardless if sub or not. Yet its not there :))))))) 

Turbine and Codemasters were really quick on it With Lord of the Rings Online as well when it launched.

Goldspam was getting crazy there too.

They implemented blanket Asian IP range bans on their US and EU servers.

Problem solved! Never ever received another RMT tell or mail nor saw any spam anymore. Nor did I see any bots anymore either.

Some People were crying about the IP range bans. But seriously. It worked.

And before anyone says they gonna use proxies. They were quick on blocking those too.

  Raxeon

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/10/10
Posts: 2067

9/10/13 2:16:12 AM#29

some poeple are seeign deleted int he blacklist so theya re working on them slowly.

se will get it handled

  Kajidourden

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Joined: 2/20/13
Posts: 296

9/10/13 6:30:08 AM#30
Originally posted by Aori

You can blame this on the people who use qwerty as a password or the ones who can't help but click the non fishy square email saying they need to change their password.

Seriously people are on their forums right now complaining that square sent them an email to change their password and they got hacked because of it.

LOL im sad that this is serious.....

I don't wanna live on this planet any more....

  David_Lopan

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Joined: 9/07/10
Posts: 815

"There is no progress. Everything is the same as it was. Form changes. The essence does not." RLS

9/10/13 6:32:38 AM#31
Originally posted by SgtPepperUK
Originally posted by Reizla
Originally posted by atenema
Originally posted by Torvaldr

There goes the idea that subscriptions mean less gold spam and botting. None of us with any experience or common sense thought that anyway.

@atenema - can't you right click the name in chat and report or ignore them?

Surprisingly not. The only options are to 'Send Tell', 'Invite to Party' and 'Friend Request'.

I would figure having a "Report Spam" /" Blacklist" option would be the norm at this point.

Best way to easy blacklist these spammers:

  • right-click name and select reply
  • use shift to mark name and press CTRL-C
  • open social panel - blacklist
  • add person to blacklist - CTRL-V
Though still not very fast, it's the best way to make sure you have the right name to add to the blacklist.
 
...and yeah... gilsellers are appearing more and more :'(

Or, similarly, do steps 1 and 2 then type /blist add "(ctrl-v to paste name here)".

 

tbf I think SE are doing ok on this, Sunday for instance I saw no RMT spam. So, SE are definitely following up on reports that are submitted and will hopefully make it easier to report/blacklist soon.

    You can drag blacklist on a hotbar actually.

  GeezerGamer

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Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 4628

9/10/13 8:02:02 AM#32

This thread is funny. This issue has plagued EVERY single MMO launch ever. It happened in Anarchy Online, It happened in SWG, to name a couple Old School. A few more recently, I remember GW2 having it particularly bad at launch. I never really got into too many F2P launches, but I recall day one of Alload's open Beta. Yeah, that was about as bad as it ever gets. They always settle down, and this game hasn't really gotten all that bad. since my Black List is about half a dozen.

So seriously? Now people are griping because FF14 is the next in line? Since none escape this. I have to wonder.

Anyway. /blist add "Goldspammer Name" takes care of the issue quickly

and since everyone on my Black List appears to be a legit player name and not some variation of "dhhhjh werew" my guess is they are using hacked accounts. Which is sad since that can be so easily avoided simply by registering for an OTP.

http://www.square-enix.com/na/account/otp/

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  Ikeda

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Joined: 10/07/10
Posts: 1972

9/10/13 8:05:05 AM#33
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Anyway. /blist add "Goldspammer Name" takes care of the issue quickly


 

 

Right click the name and say reply, then you just ass the /blist add part.  Voila.

  Bigdaddyx

Elite Member

Joined: 5/24/10
Posts: 1512

9/10/13 8:19:47 AM#34
Originally posted by Raxeon

some poeple are seeign deleted int he blacklist so theya re working on them slowly.

se will get it handled

Umm that is not SE. Gill sellers spam and delete the character to make a new one and spam again to circumvent the black list.

  Jockan

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/03/08
Posts: 4111

9/10/13 8:30:05 AM#35
Just logged in on my server and I have not seen 1 gold spam in Limsa Lominsa. Don't know if they have done something about it but just letting people know.

  Fangrim

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Joined: 1/07/12
Posts: 474

9/10/13 8:55:14 AM#36
The spammers seem to be in the 3 main city starting areas and mostly speak in shout,just filter shout out of personal chat while in those areas.
  Kaneth

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Joined: 8/19/07
Posts: 1567

9/10/13 8:57:30 AM#37
Originally posted by Mannish
Just logged in on my server and I have not seen 1 gold spam in Limsa Lominsa. Don't know if they have done something about it but just letting people know.

For some reason, Limsa Lominsa doesn't have it as bad, perhaps due to the inability for folks to travel to/from before the airship quest unless you're a Marauder or Arcanist since that's their starting area. I've seen two gold spammers in LL, but Ul'Dah and Gridania are effing nightmares.

Someone in my FC got their account "hacked", he thinks it's from logging in at PAX. Only his Gil was stolen, no new characters made, password not changed, no toons deleted. He got off pretty easy I'd say.

  Jockan

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Joined: 9/03/08
Posts: 4111

9/10/13 9:03:57 AM#38
Originally posted by Kaneth
Originally posted by Mannish
Just logged in on my server and I have not seen 1 gold spam in Limsa Lominsa. Don't know if they have done something about it but just letting people know.

For some reason, Limsa Lominsa doesn't have it as bad, perhaps due to the inability for folks to travel to/from before the airship quest unless you're a Marauder or Arcanist since that's their starting area. I've seen two gold spammers in LL, but Ul'Dah and Gridania are effing nightmares.

Someone in my FC got their account "hacked", he thinks it's from logging in at PAX. Only his Gil was stolen, no new characters made, password not changed, no toons deleted. He got off pretty easy I'd say.

 

 

The spam is still going on heavy in Gridania but nonthing in Limsa or Ul'Dah. 

  Dillig

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Posts: 71

9/10/13 9:50:47 AM#39
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

This thread is funny. This issue has plagued EVERY single MMO launch ever. It happened in Anarchy Online, It happened in SWG, to name a couple Old School. A few more recently, I remember GW2 having it particularly bad at launch. I never really got into too many F2P launches, but I recall day one of Alload's open Beta. Yeah, that was about as bad as it ever gets. They always settle down, and this game hasn't really gotten all that bad. since my Black List is about half a dozen.

So seriously? Now people are griping because FF14 is the next in line? Since none escape this. I have to wonder.

Anyway. /blist add "Goldspammer Name" takes care of the issue quickly

and since everyone on my Black List appears to be a legit player name and not some variation of "dhhhjh werew" my guess is they are using hacked accounts. Which is sad since that can be so easily avoided simply by registering for an OTP.

http://www.square-enix.com/na/account/otp/

I beg to differ.

Never got the spam in EQ. dont remember it daoc for that matter either. As for newer games. The Secret World did not have this issue either.

  GeezerGamer

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9/10/13 11:29:56 AM#40
Originally posted by Dillig
Originally posted by GeezerGamer

This thread is funny. This issue has plagued EVERY single MMO launch ever. It happened in Anarchy Online, It happened in SWG, to name a couple Old School. A few more recently, I remember GW2 having it particularly bad at launch. I never really got into too many F2P launches, but I recall day one of Alload's open Beta. Yeah, that was about as bad as it ever gets. They always settle down, and this game hasn't really gotten all that bad. since my Black List is about half a dozen.

So seriously? Now people are griping because FF14 is the next in line? Since none escape this. I have to wonder.

Anyway. /blist add "Goldspammer Name" takes care of the issue quickly

and since everyone on my Black List appears to be a legit player name and not some variation of "dhhhjh werew" my guess is they are using hacked accounts. Which is sad since that can be so easily avoided simply by registering for an OTP.

http://www.square-enix.com/na/account/otp/

I beg to differ.

Never got the spam in EQ. dont remember it daoc for that matter either. As for newer games. The Secret World did not have this issue either.

Maybe you are remembering it differently? I dunno. Anyway, I didn't really play any of those games, however, I did just now, google each game for gold spammers in chat and as I suspected, all 3 returned hits to forum posts discussing the issue.

But that, for the most part, is irrelevant. The fact is, SE put some pretty powerful security measures in place to prevent these things so these events are happening in the game due to the ignorance of certain players.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

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