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General Discussion  » Breaking Immersion? - Hawaii Shirts, Sports Cars, Anime Posters?

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  aspekx

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9/20/13 10:25:42 AM#41

1. this is not at all unusual for asian mmo's.

 

2. it used to break immersion for me until it became obvious that most of the game's population wasn't concerned with immersion by the way they named their characters and the way they played the game.

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  rojoArcueid

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"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

9/20/13 10:27:17 AM#42

If i cant put anime posters inside my house, and have all those fun extra stuff the Korean version has, they wont see my money.

 

Immersion is part of the main story, not the optional stuff. I wont accept censored content and be charged for it.

My endgame begins with character creation and ends with a new mmorpg

  Hugolin

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9/21/13 8:50:48 PM#43
i think its awesome, and as u all say its fantasy, u can have unicorns or aliens or sports cars, who cares, its fantasy, im gonna sooo play this
  Naral

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9/22/13 12:22:27 AM#44

Meh, it doesnt destroy the game for me completely, but it does temper my excitement, for sure. 

What is more likely, is that you will have to pay to put that art on your walls, and pay to do pretty much everything, given the free to play marketplace etc. This is the sort of thing they will use to make revenue, that is a bigger concern to me than what people put on their sails and walls. How much will it cost to do? How much will it cost to build the house? 

The F2P aspect with a cash shop will drive me away from this before anything else will.

  Siug

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9/22/13 12:31:26 AM#45
This is disgusting. I don't play Asian MMOs but thought some time ago that I may try AA. Now I won't touch it even if paid.
  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

9/22/13 12:43:26 AM#46

Well we and myself included keep asking for more realistic worlds.Well guess what,if you walk down your street,you will most likely find 20 different cultures with tons of variation in life styles.

You might see pink Volkswagon,a Jeep a Corvette and a 300 and a Civic.One house might have Reggae cranked all day while another is playing Led Zeppelin.Some kids might be wearing Kaki's while others are in denim shorts and others in dress pants.Some kids might be tossing a Frisbee while others are playing street hockey.You enter one house and might be psychedelic wallpaper while another is rustic or wooden panel board.

Point is you would expect to see totally different ideas in real life,so you should expect the same in a game world.Game worlds just tend to go with a theme,it is easier and more recognizable.

Breaking immersion is when you see things like mobs appearing out of thin air or instances that remove the rest of the game world.Another one that looks dumb is fighting a Lion for example and it drops a great axe weapon,must be one super skilled Lion.

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  Naral

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9/22/13 4:55:02 PM#47
Originally posted by Wizardry

Well we and myself included keep asking for more realistic worlds.Well guess what,if you walk down your street,you will most likely find 20 different cultures with tons of variation in life styles.

You might see pink Volkswagon,a Jeep a Corvette and a 300 and a Civic.One house might have Reggae cranked all day while another is playing Led Zeppelin.Some kids might be wearing Kaki's while others are in denim shorts and others in dress pants.Some kids might be tossing a Frisbee while others are playing street hockey.You enter one house and might be psychedelic wallpaper while another is rustic or wooden panel board.

Point is you would expect to see totally different ideas in real life,so you should expect the same in a game world.Game worlds just tend to go with a theme,it is easier and more recognizable.

Breaking immersion is when you see things like mobs appearing out of thin air or instances that remove the rest of the game world.Another one that looks dumb is fighting a Lion for example and it drops a great axe weapon,must be one super skilled Lion.

There is a massive difference in seeing different cars and hearing different music.

Imagine walking down the street, and seeing a castle being besieged by sailing ships with black powder cannons, then imagine a bunch of guys and gals in speedos and bikinis and Hawaiian shirts rolling up in gold plated hot rods. How does that *not* break your immersion? 

  Xer0id

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Joined: 9/06/08
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OP  9/23/13 12:46:28 AM#48
Originally posted by Wizardry - Breaking immersion is when you see things like mobs appearing out of thin air or instances that remove the rest of the game world.Another one that looks dumb is fighting a Lion for example and it drops a great axe weapon,must be one super skilled Lion.

Immersion to me is being enticed in the gaming world, and feeling like you're in the fantasy world. A world full of strange and unfamiliar things, an experience if you will. Although currently we have a limited view on these dream worlds, and only snippets of unfamiliar escape from the real world. One example time this has happened to me, was when I first watched World of Warcraft opening cinematic screen, or when I made an undead character and ran through the zombie mobs and enjoyed the view, that was considered breathtaking for me back in 2004. *(Those were the days!)*

 

Planetside 2 is another great immersion example, the feeling of being apart of a massive fleet, truly epic feelings arise when you're surrounded by teammates. We only have snippets of such immersion, that bring us out of this shitty world we live in, and the crappy jobs we must wake up to each day to live on. Have you ever been immersed in a game, even if its just for a moment. Have you ever felt like you were a merchant whose goal is to hunt for riches, and rule the marketplace, or perhaps a mighty warrior who is known for destroying others for being such a good dedicated player, aka. having a name in such world amongst others.

 

At one point we all love roleplaying, and while you can say you never once felt like a warrior, or a merchant. It's the little bits of immersion, that really keep me pumped and going in some games. Have you once stopped in the middle of a live marketplace full of other players questing, and realized each person around you is on a task. Maybe even the exact same task your on, they could be anyone, and anywhere. The most interesting and exciting part, is who are the people walking around you, what is his or her life like? what if you walked up and said hi to one of them? what if that person you said hi to you in return and both of you decides to create a guild together, and do more immersive things, and bring the game further to life.

 

Although these rarely happen, and most players don't care for immersion, and that is why we have the Oculus Rift incoming. TO FORCE IMMERSION Although what you said at the top quote can be immersion breaking, to me it sounds more like a bug.

-------------------------+ + OCULUS RIFT IMMERSION + +-------------------------

The oculus rift will be the leading device that brings a revolution to immersion, and while we may not have it in archeage, you can be 50% sure, that future of MMO's will have such immersion paired together with an oculus rift. Have you ever watched any oculus rollercoaster videos? - Yep. That's how immersed we will be around 2015!

Immersion will be happening alot in the future, you could even call it the golden age of immersion.

  Fusion

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9/23/13 12:58:08 AM#49
Originally posted by xer0id

NEW - Watch as hundreds get tossed away, by the fury of the red dragon! - 3:20 has epicness! - All of it is amazing!

Archeage - Red Dragon World Boss -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR86dOjmvxw

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Iv cleaned up most of the main post, removed a bit of the unneeded humor!

Here are a few more epic archeage links for your viewing eyes!

 

THE KRAKEN ATTACKS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLEq725gIqE

WORLD BOSS/COMBAT GAMEPLAY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Til-5RVMUBA

ARCHEAGE BEAUTIFULL WORLD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MeuhtiHPpU

4:16 some tracktor / truck made outta planks driving by :D

I'm on the "fence" on whether to try or not, will see when it launches.

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  shohen

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9/23/13 8:06:00 AM#50

I find it strange there is so much talk about these things messing up peoples immersion... I can walk through any current and most older MMOs and you see immersion breaking names running in all areas and the general chat is not only painful to see, but even more immersion breaking than the names...

 

Makes me wonder how many people are complaining about asian mmo's immersion breaking features, while  they run around with names like "harry potter" or "hot pants".

  LlexX

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9/24/13 2:06:31 PM#51

Haters gonna hate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-7UL2TXIJ8

 

Those who are saying that the car is an immersion breaker should search and read AA's lore or the book on which AA is based "The Fir and Hawk".

  alifer

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10/02/13 8:43:44 AM#52
Originally posted by LlexX

Haters gonna hate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-7UL2TXIJ8

 

Those who are saying that the car is an immersion breaker should search and read AA's lore or the book on which AA is based "The Fir and Hawk".

 

 

sometimes is a breack immersion but other time no because , this is a sandbox

  gobla

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Posts: 1415

C'est la vie.

10/02/13 9:01:46 AM#53

I think the real sad part is not that such a car breaks immersion,

it's that that video and the physics shown reminded me most of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ezadqy1S6E

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  DMKano

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10/02/13 9:22:34 AM#54

Its gonna be funny once Trion beta for AA starts and people get to see the depth and the sheer immersion of this game first hand - none of these complaints will even matter to them anymore.

Can't wait for that to happen.

I don't think there is a game on the market currently that has a more immersive open world,  nothing comes close that I've played yet. I thought Vanguard was amazing, heh wait til you see AA.

Meanwhile I encourage folks to play on Korean servers - if nothing else just run around and enjoy the beautiful vistas and landscapes.

  steelwind

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10/02/13 10:47:25 AM#55
Originally posted by DMKano

Its gonna be funny once Trion beta for AA starts and people get to see the depth and the sheer immersion of this game first hand - none of these complaints will even matter to them anymore.

Can't wait for that to happen.

I don't think there is a game on the market currently that has a more immersive open world,  nothing comes close that I've played yet. I thought Vanguard was amazing, heh wait til you see AA.

Meanwhile I encourage folks to play on Korean servers - if nothing else just run around and enjoy the beautiful vistas and landscapes.

Couldn't agree more! Nothing else even comes close to AA immersion levels, truly a world you live in and WANT to explore.

I also look forward to these petty concerns being obliterated once these players actually experience it.

  Nadia

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10/02/13 10:52:24 AM#56
Originally posted by DMKano

I don't think there is a game on the market currently that has a more immersive open world,  nothing comes close that I've played yet.

I thought Vanguard was amazing, heh wait til you see AA.

hmm - consider me interested

  SnarlingWolf

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10/02/13 10:52:50 AM#57

I personally hate that kind of stuff in MMOs. Unfortunately, I believe every single cash shop MMO Should offer those things. Why? Because there are a bunch of casuals who drool for that stuff and buy it like crazy. In a recent major MMO launch, you saw people running around in sunglasses everywhere you looked and then all of the boxing gloves showed up.

 

 

I would always choose a game that didn't have such things over one that did. But then again I would always choose a sub based over a cash shop based and you tend to find all of this stuff when there is a cash shop around.

 

 

People like cute, quirky, and cool when they play cash shop. Zynga released information a long time ago of an experiment they did. They made a normal looking cow that gave high milk production and they made a pink one that produced less milk in Farmville (where the goal is to make as much as possible). They sold them for the same price. The pink cow massively outsold the normal cow with better stats because it was cute. People find Hawaiian Shirts cute and quirky in a medieval setting, so crap like that will always show up when a cash shop is around if the company wants to make money, and all companies want to make money.

  iridescence

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10/08/13 9:15:56 PM#58

If it was LOTRO or a hypothetical Witcher MMO  I would hate this kind of stuff but I don't know anything about the lore the ArcheAge world is based on and at present have no reason to care much. If they try to present the illusion that it's totally medieval but everybody is driving sports cars it could get pretty stupid but if it's something you see the odd time, I'd say let people have their fun.

 

  Xer0id

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OP  10/13/13 2:48:34 AM#59

Found some new pictures, cant say it's much of a treat, ill list it as a trick.  (Except for the last pic, I approve of it.) :D

..Enjoy...?

  User Deleted
10/13/13 3:32:14 AM#60

Do you want to live in a neighborhood where this is okay?

These folks probably have more freedom in their sandbox.

 

Or would you rather live here?

This is themepark living, I guess. No individuality at all.

 

I want to live someplace like this. Can we get a game like this?

 

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