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Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn

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General Discussion  » Only in-game complaint so far...dungeon runs part of main quest

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  Soki123

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Joined: 8/10/08
Posts: 1422

9/01/13 5:51:59 PM#41
Originally posted by botrytis
The amazing Trinity-centric gaming at work here. If you are a Tank or healer, you wouldn't be waiting. That is the way Trinity-based games are.

Funny how as a dps, I get in within 5 minutes. At least people have roles, not just mash bashing their leet buttons.

  jsimonye

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Joined: 8/15/07
Posts: 2

9/01/13 6:09:00 PM#42
I agree with the OP, the story which is based on you being special, and the chosen one shouldn't force you into playing with a group. In the videos you don't see the other people, what kinda sense does that make? The story quests need to be solo, it loses all heroism. As someone else stated, an MMO just means that you're playing online with other people. Nowhere does it say you HAVE to. Don't be stupid. Some content should be solo, some should be grouped, story related events should be solo.
  Soki123

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Joined: 8/10/08
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9/01/13 6:12:19 PM#43
Obviously never played FFXI. If any of you complaining did, you would realize how good you have it in FFXIV. Making you group up is a good thing, and should be in more games, story or not. God I would have loved to see some of these people in FFXI, back in the day.
  stevebombsquad

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9/01/13 6:14:39 PM#44
Originally posted by botrytis
The amazing Trinity-centric gaming at work here. If you are a Tank or healer, you wouldn't be waiting. That is the way Trinity-based games are.

If the alternative is GW2 style then I think I will stay right where I am at..... 

James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?

  slicknslim88

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Joined: 8/08/11
Posts: 400

9/01/13 6:15:23 PM#45
I thought dungeons being unlocked by the main story quests was a great idea.  It involves the dungeons in the story is one benefit to it.  Another is there is incentive to stick with the quests instead of just FATE farming, because you have to do them in order to unlock the dungeons.
  SgtPepperUK

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Joined: 8/03/13
Posts: 30

9/01/13 6:17:22 PM#46

I queue for dungeons then switch to something else, usually a gathering class, and have the gear set for the job I queued as on my hotbar.

 

When the dungeon invite pops up I just hit the gear set on hotbar and then commence.

Think about it, nobody wants to die, there's rules to this game son, I'm justified.

  Knightblast

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Joined: 2/01/05
Posts: 1800

9/01/13 6:25:00 PM#47
Originally posted by slicknslim88
I thought dungeons being unlocked by the main story quests was a great idea.  It involves the dungeons in the story is one benefit to it.  Another is there is incentive to stick with the quests instead of just FATE farming, because you have to do them in order to unlock the dungeons.

I agree.  It's a great feature.  And I say that as a player who normally skips "leveling dungeons" because I find them inefficient.  Well, they may be, but I do like actually having to play through them to advance the story.  

 

Normally while I am waiting I run FATEs or do some DOL gathering or something like that.

  Rollcage8

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9/01/13 6:25:36 PM#48

I just rolled a tank, because i figured id be using duty finder alot anyways and its far easier to be the more informed and reduce your own queue times, not to mention also reducing frustrating wipes. 

Got to the lvl 28 hauuke manor dungeon, my queue was exactly instant, and when i finished the dungeon the ppl waiting outside all instant invite me. 

The real problem is how noone is playing tanks. 

  Knightblast

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9/01/13 6:28:44 PM#49
Originally posted by Rollcage8

I just rolled a tank, because i figured id be using duty finder alot anyways and its far easier to be the more informed and reduce your own queue times, not to mention also reducing frustrating wipes. 

Got to the lvl 28 hauuke manor dungeon, my queue was exactly instant, and when i finished the dungeon the ppl waiting outside all instant invite me. 

The real problem is how noone is playing tanks. 

That problem will never be solved.  Most players don't want to play tanks or healers for playstyle reasons.  It's just the nature of the beast.  I do think that DPS players should realize that because they picked a class role that is played by 90%+ of the playerbase, they are going to have to wait for their spots.

  Monamia222

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Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 53

9/01/13 6:29:49 PM#50
Games shouldn't have "main quests" that are required for class progression much less requiring a specific group size for any content.  The game is fun for what it is but "old school" it is not.

  Rollcage8

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9/01/13 6:59:59 PM#51
Originally posted by Knightblast
Originally posted by Rollcage8

I just rolled a tank, because i figured id be using duty finder alot anyways and its far easier to be the more informed and reduce your own queue times, not to mention also reducing frustrating wipes. 

Got to the lvl 28 hauuke manor dungeon, my queue was exactly instant, and when i finished the dungeon the ppl waiting outside all instant invite me. 

The real problem is how noone is playing tanks. 

That problem will never be solved.  Most players don't want to play tanks or healers for playstyle reasons.  It's just the nature of the beast.  I do think that DPS players should realize that because they picked a class role that is played by 90%+ of the playerbase, they are going to have to wait for their spots.

The problem is that tanks and healers have larger elements of failure to complete their role. People are fearful of failure so they choose less risky dps classes. 

I wont play any more mmorpgs that do not incoroporate story driven leveling experiences alongside standard mmorpg kill and deliver quests.

TSW, Gw2 and FFXIV all have major storylines that really help make leveling fun.

ffxiv uses dungeons and i think its awesome, but i changed my main class to tank because i found out it was required to do dungeons while leveling. 

  darthaden

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Joined: 8/25/13
Posts: 47

9/01/13 7:49:05 PM#52
They should have simply made the basic party 1 tank 1 healer and 4 dps. Require more dps would cut que times in half
  Chocobro

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Posts: 66

9/01/13 11:55:09 PM#53

Well, Tanks and Healers are make the group tick and bare 95% of the pressure/resonsibilty of keeping the group alive, if shit goes south, DPS will quickly gun either of them down. On the other hand, DPS can scrub throughout the whole run (although making it a rather bad experience). 

 

From my experience, people can't take criticism, and is why they choose a class that is less "front-and-center-shit-goes-bad-you-get-the-blame".

 

Credentials  - Tank and Healer For Life.

  FlyByKnight

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Joined: 12/31/12
Posts: 605

9/02/13 1:06:07 AM#54

Just wait until you actually get in a dungeon and realize how ignorant people who use tank classes are.

 

The ones who pull 4-5 mobs, but derpentrate on one and never move from that 1 spot while the healer and dps get mauled while running circles around him..

 

"Pick up the adds"

"Pick up the mobs"

"What's an add?"

"Agro the other monsters"

"What's agro?"

"Make the others foll... *wipe*"

 

What were we talking about again? LOL.

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