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  Xarko

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9/02/13 4:45:19 AM#81
Originally posted by Rydeson
     So now everyone is a superhero without capes, or does that come later?  WoW.. I guess this means that monks with safe fall is out of the question?  Since it appears that fall damage is non existent.. The more SOE pumps out information about EQN, the more they split the player base..  This game is becoming very polarizing and I wonder if SOE has taken note of it.. 

Similar thing came to my mind.. If every class/race could do this then what are they going to do to make monks special? What we saw in this video I could really sort of justify only for a top skilled monk in a fastasy world.

 

Its possible tho, as someone here mentioned, its unlocked for everyone only in Landmark to move fast around the world. In EQN it should be limited dependand on armor/class/something and it probably will be, I dont think they are that stupid to make ogres in plate armos able to do backflips.

I expect more info about this topic soon™.

  TheHavok

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9/02/13 5:05:20 AM#82
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by TheHavok
So now i'm a little confused.  Are we going to be running around like in the video, doing crazy flips and matrix style moves while also doing our combat, kind of like Age of Wushu?  Or is this parkour stuff its own separate mode?

No, the way I understood it, we CAN move like this. I mean, if you glide down and move over small ledges, your character will animate like this, but high jumping and float you CAN do but have to do it actively.

I REALLY like this aspect. MMO chars were waaaay too stiff all these years. It is cool to see MMOs finally get characters who are capable of full 3-dimensional movement. :)

 

I dont understand why people are so acidic about this. Dont wanna jump, well then DONT. duh...

A hero is supposed to be a person on top form. I mean, you are going out killing dangerous stuff, so we can assume such characters are athletic and fit. It just adds some cool realism. Like swimming. The more realistic characters and worlds are, the better. (And before you tell me, REAL people cant jump like this, trust me, youtube it, some can. Plus, it is a MAGICAL world. So go figure.) it is just an EXAMPLE what you can do in the world. It is not that the game is a parcour game! Man, I swear sometimes I think some people just WANT to hate everything that is new! I know... unthinkable...

Lol - okay so, which question of mine did you respond 'No' to?  Are we able to move like this while in-combat, or is this crazy matrix style movement only occurring in its own separate 'Non-combat' mode?  

Either way, i'm fine with it.  Looks fun. The old farts will be grumpy and not like changes - but changes keep things interesting and fresh.

  Electro057

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9/02/13 5:07:16 AM#83
I like the fact the characters are lively and have so many animations and aren't as stiff as a Max Payne NPC (original game.) I don't like how over the top this bit is...emotes are amazing though from what I saw!

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  jerlot65

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9/02/13 5:09:25 AM#84
Originally posted by Utinni

The fact that all they are showing us is videos of jumping and not-in-game concept art is starting to be worrying... Is it just me or do I remember hearing playable EQN would be playable at SOELive 2013? 

 

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/10/19/soe-live-2012-smedley-says-eqnext-is-largest-sandbox-style-mmo/

 

Did they just start this game or something? Stop all the talk and show some substance before even more people lose interest in this game.

 

 

???

  Kyllien

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9/02/13 5:33:18 AM#85

I am the Rogue.  I attack from behind.   My traveling group and I come upon a group of Orcs that need to be dispatched; in a narrow valley between two cliffs.  I need to get behind them in order to perform my magical backstab ability.  There is no way to move through them without making them aware of my movements.  I spy a few rocks jutting out ever so slightly from the cliff walls on my left and right.

How should I go about getting to the other side?

  Xarko

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9/02/13 6:29:34 AM#86
Originally posted by Kyllien

I am the Rogue.  I attack from behind.   My traveling group and I come upon a group of Orcs that need to be dispatched; in a narrow valley between two cliffs.  I need to get behind them in order to perform my magical backstab ability.  There is no way to move through them without making them aware of my movements.  I spy a few rocks jutting out ever so slightly from the cliff walls on my left and right.

How should I go about getting to the other side?

Use the force, Luke.

  Latronus

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9/02/13 7:05:51 AM#87
Originally posted by Verterdegete
Originally posted by Acornia

That jumping/flying video looks more like a jedi move in a Star Wars game than something that would be done in a EQ world.

If a normal person was to do those moves in the real world, they would more than likely end up dead, not landing unharmed on their feet.

 

And 20 yr old girls in full plate armor, wielding a two hander and beating up bulked up guys twice their size is normal and realistic? You see, in normal world, even women with stronger constitution cant move in full plate armor. Fuck, most men cant do that. Plate armor was created for mounted combat.

 

 

 

Gimme a break. Real world reasoning like that has no place in video games. Especially in fantasy genre.

Not that it has much to do with the thread, but your thinking on Plate armor is a little behind the times. You need to do some research and you will discover that dark age knights were not lumbering targets in that armor.  They were able to jump and perform rolls to avoid attacks.  The armor was fitted for them and it was fairly flexible.  The old thinking that a knight that fell off his horse was dead because he couldn't get up is bull.  Oh and it wasn't necessarily for mounted combat.  It was the armor of the aristocracy; they could afford it and since they were the landowners/royals, they were more protected in combat so could survive.  Stop watching movies and reading fiction.  You would probably be surprised that MMO style sword combat isn't how a sword was wielded either. 

On subject.  Is this movement a little over the top?  Sure, but who says we'll be doing this all the time?  You people freak out about everything.  Ever consider that this video was designed to showcase as many of the possible moves in as short a timespan as possible?  Obviously not since most of you are crying...

  GrayKodiak

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9/02/13 7:13:44 AM#88
Originally posted by noncley
 

- Don't have the same access to subscription funds as their older siblings

- Don' have the same attention span or intelligence required to allow them to engage with an MMO over a long period of time

 

 

Yea cause twenty year olds and teens are known for not having disposable income or disposable time...

  Enrif

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9/02/13 8:47:50 AM#89
Originally posted by GrayKodiak
Originally posted by noncley
 

- Don't have the same access to subscription funds as their older siblings

- Don' have the same attention span or intelligence required to allow them to engage with an MMO over a long period of time

 

 

Yea cause twenty year olds and teens are known for not having disposable income or disposable time...

And dont forget. its free to play. no subscription needed

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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9/02/13 8:54:06 AM#90
Originally posted by Ridrith
Originally posted by Tygranir

I love the kids on these forums

 

"My character can negotiate the terrain in a way that makes sense? Game is fail"

 

I guess I'll reply in kind: See you at launch!

It makes sense to glide through the air and launch yourself off the side of a cliff while doing a back flip?  I sure as hell don't move like that while I'm traversing different terrain.  I REALLY hope that this Parkour crap is an option that can be turned OFF.  This is too cheesy, even for me.  

For those people who complained about how unrealistic GW2 was with the rolling and such...  Just take a look at this goofy game.  I want to play it, but damn, I really do hope this isn't just going to be the default...  Such a terrible shame if it is.  I want to run around and STAY flat footed while I move about.  I don't want to be a damn acrobat.

 

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  Ridrith

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9/02/13 8:59:50 AM#91

That video doesn't say anything.  It's still unrealistic.  That isn't the average person, and I think a majority of the people are totally failing to see why, if this is in the actual release of the game people like this type of thing.  Some do, sure, but there's probably just as many people who do not.  Which is why I think it should be something that's brought up on the Round Table discussion so they can gather feedback and see what people have to say on this subject.

 

Read through the comments.  It's a sense of whimsy and disbelief that wasn't there before in the EQ world.  This kind of thing is just outright silly, especially moving like that through all terrain.  Sliding down the sides of cliffs, fine.  Leaping over chest high walls, cool.  Double jumping onto cliffs, gliding through valleys, flying around like a super hero...  It's just goofy as all sin.

 

Once again I'll direct you to Crazy_Sticks post.

  DMKano

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9/02/13 9:01:06 AM#92

One thing I learned from JLPicards video is 

Baggy pants are required for parkour.

 

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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9/02/13 9:06:02 AM#93
Originally posted by DMKano

One thing I learned from JLPicards video is 

Baggy pants are required for parkour.

Hehe yeah, wouldn't work so well with heavy plate armor...

The point of me posting a link to that video was just to show people to not restrict what is possible to the limits of their own imagination. The parkour guys do pretty crazy things. How that fits in a game like EQN is a different matter, but most things seen in the OP video is not that cheesy at all compared to what real humans can do. I also personally hope they will tone it down a bit before release.

You guys remember the intro of Casino Royale (James Bond movie)? The "terrorist" is a real life parkour athlete, and all he did was without special effects.

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  kujii

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9/02/13 9:06:35 AM#94
So in summary, please give your fans what they love...nothing new, and stick up the butt movement.
  Four0Six

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9/02/13 9:12:52 AM#95

It should be VERY clear now that EQN is NOT marketed to what the demographics (obtained through research) has determined to be the average MMORPG player.

 

I wish them lots of luck.

 

 

  Mothanos

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9/02/13 9:14:06 AM#96

Alot of peopel are dropping this mmo with each new tidbit of info comming out.
Me included....
What we have seen is Tony the Tiger and Belle from beauty and the beast and a mix of Tomb Raider sliding and jumping with a frostbite detructible enviroment.

What kind of people are they targeting with all this stuff ?
Console gamers ? young action rpg gamers who like disney cartoons ?

They better show us something worth for the more serious and mature mmo player or this gets into a more negative spiral were its already sucked in.

So from what i have seen so far iam stepping away from this tittle untill they made their targeting audiance clear.

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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9/02/13 9:14:44 AM#97
Originally posted by Four0Six

It should be VERY clear now that EQN is NOT marketed to what the demographics (obtained through research) has determined to be the average MMORPG player.

 

I wish them lots of luck.

I'm willing to give them a chance until I've played the game myself and found it good or bad. Even if their concept is different from your usual EQ/WoW clone, it can still end being a fun MMO game to play.

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  Ridrith

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9/02/13 9:16:01 AM#98
Originally posted by kujii
So in summary, please give your fans what they love...nothing new, and stick up the butt movement.

They're doing plenty new.  You're acting like Parkour is some major feature.  If you're not going to actually comment or attempt to contribute the conversation in some meaningful way I don't see why you'd post to begin with.  The reason they have the round table is so that players can provide official feedback and vote on things that may or may not make it into the game.  I think it's a great way to get input from your audience.  The people that pay the bills.  It's our game just as much as it is their game.  We're the one's expected to pay for the game and to play it for years to come...  So yeah, I'd think that they'd like to get feedback and information from as many sources as possible.  Those who are for it and against it and the reasons why.

 

I think it's silly to see double jumping and gliding around in the sky in a EQ game.  This seems like it'd be more at some in World of Warcraft or a super hero game.  I don't mind some of the Parkour moves like I stated before but the crazy amount of movement that was shown in that video is just totally over the top.  Can you imagine Dwarves and Ogres doing that kind of stuff?  Just plain ol' silly.  Now if that particular type of movement is totally linked to a rogue class, that's fine with me.  I just don't want to be running around as a big ass ogre warrior doing triple flips and flying around like i'm Neo.

  Enrif

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9/02/13 9:19:04 AM#99

if you dont like it, dont play it. lots and lots of other people may like it.

 

Stick to your old and used ways.

You know your old when you say "everything used to be better in the good old days"

 

 

  ghorgos

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9/02/13 9:23:29 AM#100
Originally posted by Mothanos

What kind of people are they targeting with all this stuff ?
Console gamers ? young action rpg gamers who like disney cartoons ?

From what we have seen and heard about the game the target audience is moba-players that want more than just a few maps, minecraft players that want better graphics, probably the housing-fans, action-adventure/rpg players(especially thoose that like the over the top graphic style a lot console titles have) and a few from shooters like borderlands that like some more fantasy.  I'm wodering if they believe that the name Everquest and the existence of Norrath is enough to draw the old EQ/EQ2 players to EQN because it realy sounds like that while the actualy features drive them away.

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