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  Havok2all

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Joined: 6/18/09
Posts: 185

8/31/13 9:04:30 AM#41

The D&D Saturday morning cartoon was great back when i was 7, but about 2 years ago I looked up that old cartoon to find some online streams and man was it cringe worthy. It was pretty bad. Pretty obvious what age group they are gunning for here. It is hard for me to take any of the races serious.

Ok, taking odds on what old cartoon characters the other races will mimic. 10 to 1 odds barbarians give He-man a run for his money :P

 

Look, the bottom line is this. Whether the art concept is good or bad is irrelevant. It is pretty evident that a good majority of the player base do not find it appealing. Sony needs to decide if they are ok with ostracizing a large majority of the possible customer base (older mature crowd). If they are, then more power to them. I wish them luck.

To be honest, I don't think I am all that bothered anymore. I am a long time EQ player and I really was hoping for something closer to the old EQ, with a lot of the new concepts they are adding. But, the more I learn about Project Spark the less I care about how anyone makes the next gen MMOs. I'll just make the ones I want to play using that software.

  Galadourn

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8/31/13 9:10:08 AM#42
Originally posted by Havok2all 

Look, the bottom line is this. Whether the art concept is good or bad is irrelevant. It is pretty evident that a good majority of the player base do not find it appealing. 

78.42% of all publicized statistics are made up on the spot. See what i did there?

http://kck.st/Xo38HT

  Havok2all

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Joined: 6/18/09
Posts: 185

8/31/13 9:20:10 AM#43

Except I didn't make any numerical statements as if I formulated some form of grand survey to represent public opinion. I made a legitimate observation based on the negative feedback based on every post regarding the art style. In every thread, you could estimate at least 30-40% do not like the new art style. How many of those will still actually play? I don't know or care to guess.

 

I will concede I used improper terminology. I probable should have said a good percentage instead of a good majority. Sheesh, I just got up with only 5 hours of sleep :P

  User Deleted
8/31/13 9:44:16 AM#44
Can't believe what I am seeing. I thought EqNext was going to be a video game for mature adults. Lol #nooxymorons
  xAPOCx

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Joined: 10/25/12
Posts: 887

8/31/13 9:49:42 AM#45
Originally posted by donpopuki
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Havok2all
Yikes, I just had flashbacks of the old Dungeons and Dragons Saturday morning cartoon series. That's what most of the art style reminds me of, Saturday morning cartoons.

I loled at this..... because its true.

I grew up watching that, I don't see the problem.

Well if you cant see it then there isnt an ophthalmologist on the planet that can help you see it.

  Elikal

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Joined: 2/09/06
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“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth

8/31/13 10:22:55 AM#46

Wow. Blue Elves with horns who have Dragon blood within them!

THIS IS SO SOLD TO ME! :D

 

*throws money at the screen*

 

(Note: I created a blue skinned half dragon / half elf long ago, as a sort of my trademark character, being a drawer and all.)

 

 

SIDENOTE: I designed my character YEARS before "Avatar", and I dearsay blue skinned Elves existed in games also quite some time ago. So I fail to see why all are yelling "oh Avatar copy". And besides: there is only ONE Avatar, and he is the Avatar of the Eight Sacred Virtues of Britannia. PERIOD. PARAGRAPH. So stop you stealing the Avatar title, dagnabit! ^^

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4700

GW2 socialist.

8/31/13 10:28:31 AM#47
I know practically nothing about EQN, but I really don't mind these character models.  Except the female beards.  That's weird.
  Kyllien

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Joined: 3/22/13
Posts: 315

8/31/13 10:38:01 AM#48

Look the game is going to be free to play and they are also working on a demo to play too :).  So I would say stop worrying about the way the characters look that they are presenting.  Once the demo is released then download it and try out the character creation and see how it looks to you then. 

If you still can't stand playing the game because you can't fathom looking at all the other characters then after the demo just go away and stop complaining.   This game is obviously not working for you so just move on.  Try TESO or Wildstar depending on which direction you want to go.  More realism with TESO and more cartoony with Wildstar.

  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 5175

8/31/13 10:38:47 AM#49
Originally posted by Eir_S
I know practically nothing about EQN, but I really don't mind these character models.  Except the female beards.  That's weird.

Female dwarves have beards, that's normal. Weird is when they don't have facial hair.

 

  Rusque

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Joined: 6/08/10
Posts: 1689

8/31/13 10:47:38 AM#50
Originally posted by Elikal

Wow. Blue Elves with horns who have Dragon blood within them!

THIS IS SO SOLD TO ME! :D

 

*throws money at the screen*

 

(Note: I created a blue skinned half dragon / half elf long ago, as a sort of my trademark character, being a drawer and all.)

 

SIDENOTE: I designed my character YEARS before "Avatar", and I dearsay blue skinned Elves existed in games also quite some time ago. So I fail to see why all are yelling "oh Avatar copy". And besides: there is only ONE Avatar, and he is the Avatar of the Eight Sacred Virtues of Britannia. PERIOD. PARAGRAPH. So stop you stealing the Avatar title, dagnabit! ^^

 

You don't see the connection? Really? Why are you so focused on the blue aspect? It's not the color, it's the eye shape, nose bridge, ears, hair braid.

  georgatos7

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Joined: 11/15/12
Posts: 54

8/31/13 10:50:23 AM#51

The Dwarves concept art is good considering the art style.

Everything else kill it with fire [mod edit]

They better don't show any nudity on female dwarves cause i'll sue them for underaged nudity. Didn't know EQN is targeting the pedophiles audience as well !  :O

My reaction about the art style so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1foQKD3OI

  TyranusPrime

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Joined: 7/13/13
Posts: 68

8/31/13 10:56:57 AM#52
Originally posted by Havok2all
Yikes, I just had flashbacks of the old Dungeons and Dragons Saturday morning cartoon series. That's what most of the art style reminds me of, Saturday morning cartoons.

I call dibs on Hank's energy bow if I play EQN.. :P

You have your fear, which might become reality; and you have Godzilla, which IS reality. - Ogata

  Gnostik

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Joined: 8/11/12
Posts: 47

8/31/13 11:06:49 AM#53
  • The Dark Elf can be fixed with a few minor tweaks. Narrow the bridge of his nose. Bring the massive jaw forward a bit (it will still be plenty square.) And add some wrinkles around the mouth and eyes that suggest a more sinister nature. A more detailed texture would go a long way.
  • I like the direction of the female Dwarves a lot, especially the hairstyles. Someone pointed out on reddit, and I agree, that the pose they're in is contributing to them looking young, nice, etc. Also, they all appear to have the same youngish face. Obviously there will be more options. Hopefully some will look older.
  • I absolutely love the male Dwarves, especially the middle one with the black beard!
  • I'm skeptical of the models remaining faithful to the concept art, based on what we've seen so far. While I love the Dwarf concept art, I'm not getting excited until I see the models.
 
A lot of people flat out hate the art. I'm fine with the direction, but I feel they are missing the mark slightly on execution. In particular the skins on the characters all seem too smooth and lifeless. They need a bit more detail.
  Saxx0n

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Joined: 10/15/10
Posts: 817

8/31/13 11:09:41 AM#54
Originally posted by Grymmoire

Looks as though someone at Sony admired Avatar!

 

It seems like someone at avatar admired the dark elves from EQ.

 

  Naral

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Joined: 1/07/10
Posts: 751

8/31/13 11:12:44 AM#55
I don't actually mind the models overmuch. But...wtf is with the horns? Can we have one evil race without f-ing horns please?!?!
  Elikal

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Joined: 2/09/06
Posts: 8067

“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth

8/31/13 11:20:06 AM#56
Originally posted by Rusque
Originally posted by Elikal

Wow. Blue Elves with horns who have Dragon blood within them!

THIS IS SO SOLD TO ME! :D

 

*throws money at the screen*

 

(Note: I created a blue skinned half dragon / half elf long ago, as a sort of my trademark character, being a drawer and all.)

 

SIDENOTE: I designed my character YEARS before "Avatar", and I dearsay blue skinned Elves existed in games also quite some time ago. So I fail to see why all are yelling "oh Avatar copy". And besides: there is only ONE Avatar, and he is the Avatar of the Eight Sacred Virtues of Britannia. PERIOD. PARAGRAPH. So stop you stealing the Avatar title, dagnabit! ^^

 

You don't see the connection? Really? Why are you so focused on the blue aspect? It's not the color, it's the eye shape, nose bridge, ears, hair braid.

It is a sort of a generic type; the movie "Avatar" didn't invent it. That's all I am saying.

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Elikal

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Joined: 2/09/06
Posts: 8067

“No path is darker then when your eyes are shut.” -Flemeth

8/31/13 11:24:26 AM#57
Originally posted by Naral
I don't actually mind the models overmuch. But...wtf is with the horns? Can we have one evil race without f-ing horns please?!?!

*rolls eyes* Silly Westerners, why do you always connect evil with horns? In other eras and cultures hors are signs of virility or spirituality. Besides, as I read the lore the Dark Elves got horns from mingling with Dragons. (Assuming Dragons can shapeshift into humanoid form, presumably.) AND the Teir'dal aka Dark Elves are NOT evil. Or at least that's what I got from the new lore, they are not evil in EQN anymore. Which is fine by me, since I always found the idea to brand entire races as evil as racist thinking and aburd. No race is evil. People are.

And what IS evil? IS social darwinism evil? Says who? For a social darwinist our pampering of everyone is evil. Evil is a point of view!

A forum is a place where people can discuss about different opinions. So what I don't get is, how people react offended when they come to a forum and then find... well different opinions. If a different opinion offends you, what are you even doing here?

  Fearum

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Joined: 1/15/11
Posts: 1089

8/31/13 11:27:23 AM#58
Originally posted by Galadourn
Originally posted by Havok2all 

Look, the bottom line is this. Whether the art concept is good or bad is irrelevant. It is pretty evident that a good majority of the player base do not find it appealing. 

78.42% of all publicized statistics are made up on the spot. See what i did there?

 I'm 100% sure I do not like the art style for EQ Lion King/Avatar/Snow white and the seven dwarfs.

  donpopuki

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Joined: 4/06/12
Posts: 598

8/31/13 11:36:33 AM#59
  Stizzled

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Joined: 9/13/07
Posts: 1032

Kill Your Heroes

8/31/13 11:38:08 AM#60
Originally posted by Rusque
Originally posted by Elikal

Wow. Blue Elves with horns who have Dragon blood within them!

THIS IS SO SOLD TO ME! :D

 

*throws money at the screen*

 

(Note: I created a blue skinned half dragon / half elf long ago, as a sort of my trademark character, being a drawer and all.)

 

SIDENOTE: I designed my character YEARS before "Avatar", and I dearsay blue skinned Elves existed in games also quite some time ago. So I fail to see why all are yelling "oh Avatar copy". And besides: there is only ONE Avatar, and he is the Avatar of the Eight Sacred Virtues of Britannia. PERIOD. PARAGRAPH. So stop you stealing the Avatar title, dagnabit! ^^

 

You don't see the connection? Really? Why are you so focused on the blue aspect? It's not the color, it's the eye shape, nose bridge, ears, hair braid.

It actually is the color though. Were the Dark Elves red or green then no one would have seen any connection and we wouldn't be talking about Avatar at all. People might hate the exaggerated facial features and complain that they look ridiculous (like they did with the Human female), but if the character wasn't blue then Avatar would have never been brought up.

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