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  ignore_me

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8/31/13 1:34:40 AM#21
Well my fears of everyone going over to the evil races en masse have evaporated.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  xanthmetis

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8/31/13 1:45:02 AM#22

I really like the dwarf females.  I may even make my main this  without the beard.  They appear warlike, intelligent, cunning with something brewing.  They are also attractive.  However, they are a bit young looking. 

 

I feel like the delf are missing something.  They looked a little to young was of major issues.  If they can have more of a mature look I would be happy.  But he look like he barely hit puberty and has some living to do before he would be fighting in a battle.

  Karble

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8/31/13 1:57:28 AM#23

I really enjoyed the art stylings of the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon series when I was growing up. And my favorite movie of all time just about, is Avatar. So if this is the direction of the EQ Next it sounds like they hit the sweet spot between fantastic and awsome.

WAY TO GO art team!!!!   :)

  DMKano

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8/31/13 2:11:41 AM#24

Collective reaction of EQ1 dark elf vets.....

 

Seriously - is the EQN art team incapable of doing anything that looks serious and dark???? Honest question - so far everything looks so damn happy and light.

Everquest's lore is pretty twisted - why is EQN looking so G rated?

 

 

  Sengi

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OP  8/31/13 2:16:57 AM#25
Originally posted by Allein

DE were evil in EQ. This is EQN and with that the concept of good/evil isn't the same. DE are less "evil" and more warriorish. Believe the horns have something to do with having dragon's blood. As we can see with the Ogre concept art, they too are more clan/warriorish and less evil.

Don't doubt an Elf next to a Dark Elf will have one looking a bit more sinister but not how EQ does it.

Clone Wars appealed to adults and children. Wouldn't doubt if we see Sony Pictures producing a similar EQN based show in the not so distant future. While not the art style for everyone, it is pretty nice looking for what it is.

I see, dark elves are now romulans and ogres are klingons.

 

Yes maybe this kind of art is right from a marketing standpoint. But if they aim too much for the casual crowd while not bothering to alienate their core fanbase, they are setting up the game to be a one hit wonder like many mmos in the past where. What has made the EQ franchise great is it very loyal fanbase that stayed with the franchise for 14 years. EQN may be a really great and innovative game, but they can’t expect to acquire hat kind of a loyal fanbase a second time, once they lost it.

 

It may be true, that SOE only cares about the money and they have the right to do that, but at least from gamer’s as well as a designer’s standpoint there is more to games then just the money. EQN will certainly take its place in the history in video games, but certainly not because of its character art.

  

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t what to compare EQN with The Clone Wars in any way (except the character design unfortunately).

There is probably no piece of fiction that I hate with more fervour then The Clone Wars, because it’s like a scavenger feeding on the rotting cadaver of the once great Star Wars franchise. It takes what was left of Star Wars after the prequels and dubs it down even more so squeeze the last penny out of it. Sure it has sold a lot of toys, but I would want EQN to be distanced from that thing as far as possible.

  ignore_me

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8/31/13 2:22:38 AM#26

This will be the greatest kids game ever. The cash shop should have song emotes like: "Backpack Backpack," and "Norrath Map Norrath Map Norrath Map Norrath Map!"

They will make bank.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  DMKano

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8/31/13 2:24:17 AM#27
Originally posted by superconducting

Uncanny resemblance to avatar. My first thought as well.

 

Even the hair braid looks similar!

 

 

But, I do think that dark elf looks alright... Better than Simba the Lion did.

Also looks like it has a touch of MJ

I wonder if moonwalk will be the male dark elf /dance emote.....

  Mardy

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8/31/13 2:32:18 AM#28

Starting to think EQN art team has no originality.  They have to use Avatar look-alikes for dark elves?  Lion king for Kerran?  I mean seriously.  I don't like how dark elves look, and I thought that was one race where they couldn't mess up.  SOE is so desperate to attract mass audience they have no problem creating these look alikes.  That's just sad.

 

As for dwarves, concept art looks good, but concept arts don't ever look like ingame art.  So I see how they try to woo people by showing the dwarves concept art at the same time showing the butt ugly dark elves.

 

The more I see from this game, the more I'm looking elsewhere.

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  PAL-18

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8/31/13 2:55:08 AM#29

This is starting to look crazy.

How many kids there is who  dont want to see their favorite idols getting hurt?

Do they really want to see Avatars / lion kings getting mutilated in battlegrounds in EQN ,really ?

And i bet it wont stop here,no way hoce.

+And what this does to community ,sure SOE wants and aims for active community but rhesus: My avatar is stronger than lion king who is stronger than Shrek(formerly known as Froglok),buff please,nerf please why this and that and they suck and jeejee! its going to be freaking crazy.

 

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  Nemesis7884

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8/31/13 5:27:05 AM#30
hate the avatar dark evles, love the female dwarves (probably for the first time)
  User Deleted
8/31/13 6:07:51 AM#31

I actually hope they move the Dark Elves away from the old 80‘s Dungeons & Dragons lore material they were ripped off from where they were a race of sexist BDSM fetishist designed to simulate challenging players with another group of players and into something with more universal appeal. As to the look of them I am mixed. It does look awfully Disney. Some stylized facial hair options could really help with that letting them look pretty and sinister too. I was oddly reminded or the old Dragon's Lair game with Dirk the Daring. :)

  Storm_Cloud

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8/31/13 6:57:39 AM#32
Originally posted by Grymmoire

Looks as though someone at Sony admired Avatar!

 

Hahaha!

That's awesome, this was my first thought exactly.... funny :)

 

  xAPOCx

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8/31/13 7:01:31 AM#33
Originally posted by Havok2all
Yikes, I just had flashbacks of the old Dungeons and Dragons Saturday morning cartoon series. That's what most of the art style reminds me of, Saturday morning cartoons.

I loled at this..... because its true.

  xAPOCx

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8/31/13 7:10:54 AM#34
Originally posted by DMKano

Collective reaction of EQ1 dark elf vets.....

 

Seriously - is the EQN art team incapable of doing anything that looks serious and dark???? Honest question - so far everything looks so damn happy and light.

Everquest's lore is pretty twisted - why is EQN looking so G rated?

 

 

Not when your art director is responsible for Free Realms....

 

Everquest lore isn't EQN lore. Everquest Next lore take place on planet Disney in the land of Pixar. 

 

 

  xAPOCx

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8/31/13 7:14:33 AM#35
Originally posted by Mardy

Starting to think EQN art team has no originality.  They have to use Avatar look-alikes for dark elves?  Lion king for Kerran?  I mean seriously.  I don't like how dark elves look, and I thought that was one race where they couldn't mess up.  SOE is so desperate to attract mass audience they have no problem creating these look alikes.  That's just sad.

 

As for dwarves, concept art looks good, but concept arts don't ever look like ingame art.  So I see how they try to woo people by showing the dwarves concept art at the same time showing the butt ugly dark elves.

 

The more I see from this game, the more I'm looking elsewhere.

Its called Selling Out. 

  donpopuki

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8/31/13 7:21:16 AM#36
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Havok2all
Yikes, I just had flashbacks of the old Dungeons and Dragons Saturday morning cartoon series. That's what most of the art style reminds me of, Saturday morning cartoons.

I loled at this..... because its true.

I grew up watching that, I don't see the problem.

  GrayKodiak

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8/31/13 7:25:00 AM#37

I like the dark elf, I imagine there will be some other options in character customization to make them look more rough,

I really like the dwarf concept art but will hold on till we see some actual renders.

  spankybus

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8/31/13 7:32:07 AM#38

If the actual in-game dwarves look EXACTLY like that concept art...it would be amazing!! I would like this game then...a living cartoon...not cartoony graphics...but actual, beautifully hand-drawn looking art.

 

.....of course it won't.....the in-game dwarf will look like it was done by someone tho glanced at those concept art pix a few years ago and half-remembered it.

 

Understand, I LOVE cartoon work. Okami looked beautiful! But the cartoony graphics...i realize its a subtle difference. One looks amazing....the other just looks cheap.

 

First picture looks cheap. Jake Sully would not approve.

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  Allein

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8/31/13 8:20:54 AM#39

Make nose more narrow with a slight point, slant eyebrows more, slant eyes and make them a bit smaller, white hair = evil...

From my experience, any evil look is usually from having a permanent scowl on a character. Even the male dwarves have a slight scowl going on which makes them even better looking.

I have no doubt that between character customization, emotes, soemote, gear, etc it won't be difficult to have a sinister looking character of any race. Aion and GW2 both made it easy to do this, assuming EQN will follow.

Dont get so hung up on one pic. 

  Telondariel

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8/31/13 8:21:17 AM#40
Originally posted by Sengi
Originally posted by gigat
... Just about anything they do with EQN graphically will be an improvement over EQ and EQ2.  They could make the Fae look like sparkly cartoon turds with wings, and it would still look better than EQ2!

It is not really hard to beat EQ2s graphics. They didn’t even look that good in 2004 even though they ate up a lot of system resources.

Yes EQN looks different, but if you ask me it’s only a different kind of bad. You have to consider that this time they had all the freedom they could have. There are almost no restrictions on the technical side anymore and 3D character design has come a long way since 2004. They had a million of art styles to choose from. They looked at it all and then they chose one that closely resembles The Clone Wars.  

The bad thing is that graphics set the tone for the whole game. If you choose the art style of The Clone Wars, you are also in for the kind of storytelling from The Clone Wars and a casual kind of game.

I'm glad another thread was made for people to, again, voice their opinions on the graphics.  I think its important to get it out there as many times as you can, especially when you pair it with predictive values about how the EQN storyline and gameplay will pan out.

 

/sarcasm off

 

Even post-reveal, we know very little about EQN.  Unfortunately, added to this, we are still faced with the Dev team who is maintaining an atmosphere of silence about the bulk of the game.  So, we have enough information to tease us, but this also fosters yet another state of wild speculation that the community saw pre-reveal.  It is important to note here that of all the ideas thrown around for months pre-SOE Live, the majority truly ending up being ridiculous and irrelevant.

 

"The Sky is Falling" mentality is non-productive, especially given that we haven't seen any gameplay reviews or read previews from beta testers.  No, the rudimentary demo from SOE Live does not count as an indicator of anything.  It's early alpha, and the team has clammed up leaving us with the barest skin of a glimpse of what EQN is.  Speculative predictions at this stage are, of course, baseless.

 

Personally, I was hoping for some real information at Gamescon and PAX-  something along the lines of a major presentation to unveil another large chunk of missing information.  It seems they are just using these venues as introductions to EQN to the mainstream gaming world, rather than just the niche SOE Live attendees.  Now, that is all well and good, but there are still a lot of people with their eyes and ears on these events who are wanting more.  PAX isn't over yet, so hopefully they'll flesh out some more of the skeleton.  Maybe some Twitter nudges will stir things up.

 

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