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  Kuanshu

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OP  8/24/13 10:50:53 AM#1

Heard mention zenimax online hasn't implimented underwater swimming as of yet in the game

Huge dissappointment if they release this game without underwater swimming

Argonians can breathe underwater as part of their racial

PvP underwater stealth maneuvers in Cryodiil would be so cool

PvE underwater treasure, dungeons, MOBs, etc...would add another dimension to the game as I enjoyed this immensely in Skyrim

Why aren't there any questions concerning this in interviews?

 

  PieRad

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8/24/13 10:55:12 AM#2
Eew a reptile! Burn it with fire!

  jesusjuice69

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8/24/13 11:03:59 AM#3
The game appears to have devolved into a cash grab, so I wouldn't expect additional features.  They are too busy working on consoles atm.
  HoiPoloi

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8/24/13 1:40:50 PM#4

Underwater swimming is a nice extra, but it shouldn't be prioritized before other important parts of the game, especially underwater combat.

In GW2, for example, underwater combat is a complete gimmick.  Half your skills don't work underwater, meaning your normal build probably won't work.  And in fact, Anet has just thrown in the towel on underwater combat in WvW and will be draining the Borderland lakes in a coming update.

And, if you recall, GW2 was actually delayed so they could work on underwater combat.  Keep that in mind when you realize that now, a year later, they are actually removing that feature from a major part of the game (WvW).  That's a complete waste of development resources.

 

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  RadixMalorum

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8/24/13 1:52:54 PM#5
Originally posted by HoiPoloi

Underwater swimming is a nice extra, but it shouldn't be prioritized before other important parts of the game, especially underwater combat.

In GW2, for example, underwater combat is a complete gimmick.  Half your skills don't work underwater, meaning your normal build probably won't work.  And in fact, Anet has just thrown in the towel on underwater combat in WvW and will be draining the Borderland lakes in a coming update.

And, if you recall, GW2 was actually delayed so they could work on underwater combat.  Keep that in mind when you realize that now, a year later, they are actually removing that feature from a major part of the game (WvW).  That's a complete waste of development resources.

 

Actually, as the OP mentioned, it's not just a nice extra, it's part of a racial trait of one of the core races. It needs to be in the game.

I'm getting a little tired of new MMOs coming out, supposedly ground breaking (but apparently not water breaking) that don't offer even half the features that games like EverQuest 2 offered at launch almost 10 years ago now.

Maybe they should stop hyping these damn games before they have the features they need actually implemented.

 

  Rhazes

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8/24/13 2:20:27 PM#6
ESO is combat game I'm surprised it even has swimming at all and not invisible barriers around the water. MMOCG Massivily Multiplayer Online combat game. When your bored kill stuff, when your bored of that kill more stuff and when that bores you kill some more stuff. Underwater swimming, sitting in chairs things like that oppress the mouth breathing combating only players that seem to have dominion over many MMO devs the last few years. Ask this question on Bethesda forums and you will get half a dozen posts from players asking why something like swimming underwater should even be in game.
  Kuanshu

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OP  8/24/13 9:19:42 PM#7
Originally posted by Rhazes
ESO is combat game I'm surprised it even has swimming at all and not invisible barriers around the water. MMOCG Massivily Multiplayer Online combat game. When your bored kill stuff, when your bored of that kill more stuff and when that bores you kill some more stuff. Underwater swimming, sitting in chairs things like that oppress the mouth breathing combating only players that seem to have dominion over many MMO devs the last few years. Ask this question on Bethesda forums and you will get half a dozen posts from players asking why something like swimming underwater should even be in game.

Cuz its an Elder Scrolls game and well why even have a race which can breathe underwater if there isn't any swimming underwater...

Swimming is more immersive and many really enjoy it as it could lead to many unexpected adventures in an MMO

Wouldn't it be fun to grief someone fishing and wondering why they aren't catching anything?

You could stealth through the water as a sleek argonian in Cryodiil or any other race using waterbreathing pots to add a new dimension to PvP.

It isn't really that hard to impliment underwater swimming yet make it so PvP cannot occur underwater in Cryodiil yet you can attack non stealthed enemy players from land while they are swimming.

Also remember attacking slaughterfish and being bit by them in Elder Scrolls games?

Underwater swimming best be a part of this game or I am going to have to take all my frustrations out on players in Cryodiil while playing my Argonian called Landlubber

Sigh, please make it so...

 

  rojo6934

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8/24/13 9:22:39 PM#8
THey better add underwater content. Square Enix already pooped on themselves by not allowing players to get in the water in XIV.

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  rojo6934

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8/24/13 9:26:52 PM#9
Originally posted by Rhazes
ESO is combat game I'm surprised it even has swimming at all and not invisible barriers around the water. MMOCG Massivily Multiplayer Online combat game. When your bored kill stuff, when your bored of that kill more stuff and when that bores you kill some more stuff. Underwater swimming, sitting in chairs things like that oppress the mouth breathing combating only players that seem to have dominion over many MMO devs the last few years. Ask this question on Bethesda forums and you will get half a dozen posts from players asking why something like swimming underwater should even be in game.

these people ask this because they are completely ignorant. They say they like X game, but they dont want anything added to the gmae that would make it better. They want the game as it is (even if it has tons of limitaion that prevent people form enjoying the full game). Just ignorants that shouldnt be allowed to even suggest things on the games forums. Incomplete games should not be accepted as finished products on the market.

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  Flyte27

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2/13/14 9:08:35 AM#10

I would love it if they would add underwater exploration to the game like the single player variants at some point. 

They could also add utility spells via potions and alchemy.  For instance you could make a water breathing potion or a levitation potion.  This would be fair as everyone can use them.

  Dewguy79

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2/13/14 9:17:58 AM#11
Sure it would be a nice feature is it groundbreaking or going to cause people not to play haha no it won't.  Look at wow the only time you go under water is when you are forced by a quest, while your down there you may find a chest or some lore but the majority of players spend 99% of their time on the surface.  So why is this not in an interview?  Because you spend 99% of your time on more important features.  
  Flyte27

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2/13/14 9:21:49 AM#12
I would still like to have it even if I spend 99% on my time on the surface.  I loved swimming around in Everquest.  It adds more flavor to the game to have different options for exploration.  Besides it seems silly you are swimming in the water and can't go underneath it.
  Dewguy79

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2/13/14 9:25:55 AM#13
Originally posted by Flyte27
I would still like to have it even if I spend 99% on my time on the surface.  I loved swimming around in Everquest.  It adds more flavor to the game to have different options for exploration.  Besides it seems silly you are swimming in the water and can't go underneath it.

 

Oh I agree it a good feature wish more games had it.  My point was it's not a major deal breaker for the majority of players.  And every new game goes through the same treadmill of complaints.  This week in eso other topics have been beatin to death so why not bring up new one to discuss.  
  handlewithcare

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2/13/14 9:26:04 AM#14
yes I was surprised at this it makes the game feel cheap and unnatural.
  Flyte27

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2/13/14 9:31:32 AM#15
It wont be a deal breaker for me either.  I'm going to get the game.  I just hope they add it at some point.  I'm sure I'll still enjoy it.
  ErrollTheElder

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2/13/14 9:44:57 AM#16

It was a cool thing about Everquest. I remember fighting sharks underwater. For all its faults its easy to forget how much you could do in EQ.

I would not expect them to change how swimming works in the short term. DAOC had it added but when they retrofitted  the water it was terrible. It was like they had a separate underwater zone not a fluid (excuse the pun) transition like EQ and WoW. Of course, those two games had much lower poly counts.

I didn't play Skyrim, did that have underwater?

In any case, I can't imagine this being a significant deal breaker for anyone who was seriously interested in the game otherwise.

  Flyte27

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2/13/14 9:48:22 AM#17
In Skyrim you can go underwater, but there is only the occasional treasure to find.  I believe there was one or two dungeons that required you to go underwater, but not a lot.  EQ was probably the game that had the most underwater exploration.  There were a few large/complex dungeons that were entirely underwater.
  Metanol

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2/13/14 9:52:40 AM#18

I would -love- underwater exploration and the like. Perhaps even puzzle quests, but I do not want underwater combat. In fact, it would be pretty awesome if slaughterfish and it's like was a real threat...

Skyrim did this right. You couldn't cast spells or fight underwater.

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  LisaFlexy22

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2/13/14 10:32:25 AM#19
This was one of my complaints as well.  Not a deal breaker but I don't like it.  At least you can swim but I still want to be able to explore underwater.  Dumb they didn't add it
  SpottyGekko

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2/13/14 10:44:43 AM#20

Underwater exploration would be a nice added feature, but I wouldn't bat an eyelid if it never made it into the game.

 

Allowing one race to have unlimited underwater breathing would cause huge issues if there was underwater PVP at all, because it's a huge advantage. Everyone else will have to take a stack of underwater-breathing potions, which would mean they couldn't use any other kind of potion, whereas Argonians would be free to use as many potions as they like.

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