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  vidiotking

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8/24/13 11:41:11 AM#121
Originally posted by Gorilla
Originally posted by kitarad
Overflow and queue does not work if they want to force you to another server which is part of population control. Naturally I would not implement that if I want people to relocate.

Indeed. And that is the crux of the matter, it has nothing to do with performance issues or crowding in starter areas,  it is SE using a rather blunt instrument to force players on to other servers to try to balance the population longer term. Giving free transfers for a short period of time after launch would be a better solution, things would balance out naturally then.

Yes. Another reasonable voice.

SE should give FREE server transfers to SELECT servers shortly after launch.

Will they??

  Joekra

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8/24/13 11:43:33 AM#122
Originally posted by vidiotking
Originally posted by Gorilla
Originally posted by kitarad
Overflow and queue does not work if they want to force you to another server which is part of population control. Naturally I would not implement that if I want people to relocate.

Indeed. And that is the crux of the matter, it has nothing to do with performance issues or crowding in starter areas,  it is SE using a rather blunt instrument to force players on to other servers to try to balance the population longer term. Giving free transfers for a short period of time after launch would be a better solution, things would balance out naturally then.

Yes. Another reasonable voice.

SE should give FREE server transfers to SELECT servers shortly after launch.

Will they??

They could include it in the whole "pay for 30 days of sub and receive a character modification token" that I heard about. Not saying it's necessarily true but I can see something like that happen if the demand is high. For now they will wait and see how it looks in about 1 week after release.

  Ehllfhire

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8/24/13 11:49:24 AM#123
I lol at the suckers who weren't paying attention ALL week when SE told everyone this would happen

Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing.
PS3

  Alberel

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OP  8/24/13 12:00:12 PM#124
Originally posted by Ehllfhire
I lol at the suckers who weren't paying attention ALL week when SE told everyone this would happen

I lol at the suckers who don't bother to read the thread.

  Searias

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8/24/13 12:09:00 PM#125
Originally posted by grimal

I agree.  The whole system is prohibiting friends from playing together.  Really really bad planning on their part.  Makes me wonder why I even am bothering to create a character for Early Access as it seems the best thing to do is to just wait it out until they get this mess sorted out.

Already has put a bad taste in my mouth.  Maybe I will just go and play GW2.

Didn't GW2 locked servers when they launched as well? I remember my friends joining different servers because this in that game as well.

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  vidiotking

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one in the bush is better than one in the hand.

8/24/13 12:12:09 PM#126
Searias... your pc is sick
  Elegance92

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8/24/13 12:13:33 PM#127
Originally posted by Searias
Originally posted by grimal

I agree.  The whole system is prohibiting friends from playing together.  Really really bad planning on their part.  Makes me wonder why I even am bothering to create a character for Early Access as it seems the best thing to do is to just wait it out until they get this mess sorted out.

Already has put a bad taste in my mouth.  Maybe I will just go and play GW2.

Didn't GW2 locked servers when they launched as well? I remember my friends joining different servers because this in that game as well.

they had free transfers at the time, though.

An easy fix right now would be to allow transfers off of locked (non legacy as well, for obvious reasons) realms.

  Xaradas

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8/24/13 12:24:51 PM#128
Never been so glad that I'm at work right now, SE can iron out the launch day hiccups and I can play later tonight when it calms down abit....such a win win.
  gorro187

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8/24/13 12:29:13 PM#129
Wow server's just come up from matenience and Gilgamesh is still locked....
  Searias

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8/24/13 12:30:09 PM#130
Originally posted by vidiotking
Searias... your pc is sick

Thanks, but Intel released the I7 4770k like month after I bought my processor, lol.

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  vidiotking

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one in the bush is better than one in the hand.

8/24/13 12:30:54 PM#131
Originally posted by gorro187
Wow server's just come up from matenience and Gilgamesh is still locked....

Gilgamesh has over 35% of the total player  population on it. It should be locked.

  vidiotking

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one in the bush is better than one in the hand.

8/24/13 12:31:52 PM#132
Originally posted by Searias
Originally posted by vidiotking
Searias... your pc is sick

Thanks, but Intel released the I7 4770k like month after I bought my processor, lol.

Pa-Leez. I have an e8400 and a 560ti.

  Distopia

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8/24/13 12:38:51 PM#133
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by cheyane
Can't you exercise some patience ? They might give free transfers later if you seriously cannot deal with  launch woes then  don't play at launch .Wait for a week it will probably be much better then.

If it were a case of server downtime or something unforseen I would be more patient.

The fact is though someone at SE is choosing to lock these servers with the intent to encourage players to roll on other worlds. They seem to be missing the fact that a lot of us will not roll elsewhere though as we already have friends on the locked worlds.

This isn't a bug, or glitch, or server crash... it's a really bad method of population control that is pissing off a lot of people who want to play with their friends.

Why are all these people trying to get on one or two of the most populated servers? If you want to play together you need to make sure you can, that isn't on the dev team.

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  Kyleran

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8/24/13 12:47:09 PM#134
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by cheyane
Can't you exercise some patience ? They might give free transfers later if you seriously cannot deal with  launch woes then  don't play at launch .Wait for a week it will probably be much better then.

If it were a case of server downtime or something unforseen I would be more patient.

The fact is though someone at SE is choosing to lock these servers with the intent to encourage players to roll on other worlds. They seem to be missing the fact that a lot of us will not roll elsewhere though as we already have friends on the locked worlds.

This isn't a bug, or glitch, or server crash... it's a really bad method of population control that is pissing off a lot of people who want to play with their friends.

Why are all these people trying to get on one or two of the most populated servers? If you want to play together you need to make sure you can, that isn't on the dev team.

I dunno, it's where all the cool kids hang out?  Better server name?  Hard to say, but in this case the OP is just trying to join his friends who already on one of these servers.

Hope he has/had some better luck this afternoon, must be frustrating to be locked out.

 

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  Distopia

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8/24/13 12:53:45 PM#135
Originally posted by Kyleran

Why are all these people trying to get on one or two of the most populated servers? If you want to play together you need to make sure you can, that isn't on the dev team.

I dunno, it's where all the cool kids hang out?  Better server name?  Hard to say, but in this case the OP is just trying to join his friends who already on one of these servers.

Hope he has/had some better luck this afternoon, must be frustrating to be locked out.

 

Well I'm sure there's a violin playing somewhere on his behalf, again though this happens at every release, people never learn that it's on them as a group to pick a server that's not over-populated where they can fit, the dev team has no way of knowing how many are trying to play together.

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  Alberel

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OP  8/24/13 12:56:08 PM#136
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by cheyane
Can't you exercise some patience ? They might give free transfers later if you seriously cannot deal with  launch woes then  don't play at launch .Wait for a week it will probably be much better then.

If it were a case of server downtime or something unforseen I would be more patient.

The fact is though someone at SE is choosing to lock these servers with the intent to encourage players to roll on other worlds. They seem to be missing the fact that a lot of us will not roll elsewhere though as we already have friends on the locked worlds.

This isn't a bug, or glitch, or server crash... it's a really bad method of population control that is pissing off a lot of people who want to play with their friends.

Why are all these people trying to get on one or two of the most populated servers? If you want to play together you need to make sure you can, that isn't on the dev team.

Friends started last weekend during beta phase 4. At that time we had no way of knowing which servers were the most popular. The UK players had chosen Moogle as their unofficial server and each of the other language groups had chosen the others (there aren't very many servers allocated to the EU). It seemed like a pretty even distribution.

As of THIS weekend Moogle is the highest pop EU server. My friends each already had multiple classes at 20 so it's a lot of time lost to them if they re-roll elsewhere. I don't really have much choice but to wait.

I understand what the devs are trying to do but they also don't appear to have considered that a lot of players only have one server they can play on if they want to join their friends...

  Distopia

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8/24/13 1:03:33 PM#137
Originally posted by Alberel
 

Friends started last weekend during beta phase 4. At that time we had no way of knowing which servers were the most popular. The UK players had chosen Moogle as their unofficial server and each of the other language groups had chosen the others (there aren't very many servers allocated to the EU). It seemed like a pretty even distribution.

As of THIS weekend Moogle is the highest pop EU server. My friends each already had multiple classes at 20 so it's a lot of time lost to them if they re-roll elsewhere. I don't really have much choice but to wait.

I understand what the devs are trying to do but they also don't appear to have considered that a lot of players only have one server they can play on if they want to join their friends...

 They should have done what SWTOR did (it's really the only way to resolve such an issue, on the dev side). They had a system early on setup for guilds and groups to sign up together, at launch they were automatically assigned a server. All you had to do was type in your guild tag (for approval on the guild list).

Without a system like that it is on the players to decide on a good fit for them where they can play, I know during the rush of launch it's hard to think about these things.

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  Aldous.Huxley

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8/24/13 1:04:33 PM#138
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by cheyane
Can't you exercise some patience ? They might give free transfers later if you seriously cannot deal with  launch woes then  don't play at launch .Wait for a week it will probably be much better then.

If it were a case of server downtime or something unforseen I would be more patient.

The fact is though someone at SE is choosing to lock these servers with the intent to encourage players to roll on other worlds. They seem to be missing the fact that a lot of us will not roll elsewhere though as we already have friends on the locked worlds.

This isn't a bug, or glitch, or server crash... it's a really bad method of population control that is pissing off a lot of people who want to play with their friends.

Why are all these people trying to get on one or two of the most populated servers? If you want to play together you need to make sure you can, that isn't on the dev team.

Friends started last weekend during beta phase 4. At that time we had no way of knowing which servers were the most popular. The UK players had chosen Moogle as their unofficial server and each of the other language groups had chosen the others (there aren't very many servers allocated to the EU). It seemed like a pretty even distribution.

As of THIS weekend Moogle is the highest pop EU server. My friends each already had multiple classes at 20 so it's a lot of time lost to them if they re-roll elsewhere. I don't really have much choice but to wait.

I understand what the devs are trying to do but they also don't appear to have considered that a lot of players only have one server they can play on if they want to join their friends...

 

You should just cancel & be done with it. It's obvious this company is letting you down & it's

a very emotional experience for you. You shouldn't have to put up with it. Cancel your order

& hit them where it hurts, that'll show them that you mean business. I feel for you, but it

seems to be the only solution that will give you closure.

  Torvaldr

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8/24/13 1:15:11 PM#139
Originally posted by vidiotking
Originally posted by Gorilla
Originally posted by kitarad
Overflow and queue does not work if they want to force you to another server which is part of population control. Naturally I would not implement that if I want people to relocate.

Indeed. And that is the crux of the matter, it has nothing to do with performance issues or crowding in starter areas,  it is SE using a rather blunt instrument to force players on to other servers to try to balance the population longer term. Giving free transfers for a short period of time after launch would be a better solution, things would balance out naturally then.

Yes. Another reasonable voice.

SE should give FREE server transfers to SELECT servers shortly after launch.

Will they??

You're paying for a service.  You shouldn't have to pay for server transfers at all.  Trion offers server transfers as part of their service and they still do even after the game is sub-free.  Squeenix should do the same.  It would defuse a lot of the angst and frustration.  People paid for a game and want to play with their friends. If they really valued the honor and integrity of their name they would do something like this.

  vidiotking

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8/24/13 1:19:16 PM#140
Originally posted by Torvaldr
Originally posted by vidiotking
Originally posted by Gorilla
Originally posted by kitarad
Overflow and queue does not work if they want to force you to another server which is part of population control. Naturally I would not implement that if I want people to relocate.

Indeed. And that is the crux of the matter, it has nothing to do with performance issues or crowding in starter areas,  it is SE using a rather blunt instrument to force players on to other servers to try to balance the population longer term. Giving free transfers for a short period of time after launch would be a better solution, things would balance out naturally then.

Yes. Another reasonable voice.

SE should give FREE server transfers to SELECT servers shortly after launch.

Will they??

You're paying for a service.  You shouldn't have to pay for server transfers at all.  Trion offers server transfers as part of their service and they still do even after the game is sub-free.  Squeenix should do the same.  It would defuse a lot of the angst and frustration.  People paid for a game and want to play with their friends. If they really valued the honor and integrity of their name they would do something like this.

/agree. Based on what they've done w/ FFXIV so far, you'd think they would.

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