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  vidiotking

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one in the bush is better than one in the hand.

8/24/13 8:52:04 AM#41
Originally posted by Bluefear77
Originally posted by grimal
Actually,  they unlocked the server I wanted, so it looks like it is being monitored and checked.  So perhaps I overreacted a bit.

which server is that?

Because the server (Gilgamesh) I've been waiting for has been locked all morning.

According to polls, 35% of the player base in on Gilgamesh. That's why it's locked. This was my point. SE doesn't want more people on that server.. and for good reason.

  Four0Six

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8/24/13 8:52:11 AM#42
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Elegance92
Originally posted by Alberel

Yeah there is that option... but the fact that this system even makes that the only real option just highlights how stupid it is.

Even worse is the fact THAT server might get locked while they are moving >_>

Indeed... right now all but one of the EU servers are locked. Last weekend there was actually a point when ALL of the EU servers were locked which... well... there are no words...

Seriously?

 

READ your OWN WORDS: "Last weekend there was actually a point when ALL of the EU servers were locked."

 

MEANING THAT AT SOME POINT THEY WILL UNLOCK.

Be patient.

Ask your friends to move, if they wont they aren't your friends.

 

I understand your frustration. Well not so much since it is mostly about tripe and not built with logic.

  Aldous.Huxley

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8/24/13 8:55:07 AM#43
Originally posted by vidiotking

The 'play on a different server' solution is NOT an acceptable solution UNLESS there are FREE server transfers at some point EARLY on.

 

I just meant in the interim, until the servers open up. But I do agree with your main point that a continuous lock would only make sense if free transfers become available after server stabilization is complete.

 

I assume SE has a plan.

  Elegance92

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8/24/13 8:57:04 AM#44
Originally posted by Aldous.Huxley
Originally posted by vidiotking

The 'play on a different server' solution is NOT an acceptable solution UNLESS there are FREE server transfers at some point EARLY on.

 

I just meant in the interim, until the servers open up. But I do agree with your main point that a continuous lock would only make sense if free transfers become available after server stabilization is complete.

 

I assume SE has a plan.

It's going to be the weekend now though(in asia) so we probably won't see anything from then until after the EA period is pretty much over.

I'd do that(play on another server to kill time), but quite frankly I don't want to have to redo anything, it's just going to wear me out, which I'd like to avoid. So if it comes to that I'll just cancel and play something else.

  vidiotking

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one in the bush is better than one in the hand.

8/24/13 8:57:29 AM#45
Originally posted by Aldous.Huxley
Originally posted by vidiotking

The 'play on a different server' solution is NOT an acceptable solution UNLESS there are FREE server transfers at some point EARLY on.

 

I just meant in the interim, until the servers open up. But I do agree with your main point that a continuous lock would only make sense if free transfers become available after server stabilization is complete.

 

I assume SE has a plan.

This is my first time playing an online SE game. I don't know if i can expect them to have a plan or not. But I'll play the optimist.

Doors of Perception is one of my all time favorite books btw...

  Aldous.Huxley

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8/24/13 9:08:12 AM#46
Originally posted by vidiotking
Originally posted by Aldous.Huxley
Originally posted by vidiotking

The 'play on a different server' solution is NOT an acceptable solution UNLESS there are FREE server transfers at some point EARLY on.

 

I just meant in the interim, until the servers open up. But I do agree with your main point that a continuous lock would only make sense if free transfers become available after server stabilization is complete.

 

I assume SE has a plan.

This is my first time playing an online SE game. I don't know if i can expect them to have a plan or not. But I'll play the optimist.

Doors of Perception is one of my all time favorite books btw...

Optimism until I have reason for the alternative. If EA were coming to a close, I may not be so optimistic.

 

DoP & BNW are both pretty high on my list as well but I celebrate the entire catalog. Classics.

  Alberel

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OP  8/24/13 9:09:08 AM#47
Originally posted by Four0Six
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Elegance92
Originally posted by Alberel

Yeah there is that option... but the fact that this system even makes that the only real option just highlights how stupid it is.

Even worse is the fact THAT server might get locked while they are moving >_>

Indeed... right now all but one of the EU servers are locked. Last weekend there was actually a point when ALL of the EU servers were locked which... well... there are no words...

Seriously?

 

READ your OWN WORDS: "Last weekend there was actually a point when ALL of the EU servers were locked."

 

MEANING THAT AT SOME POINT THEY WILL UNLOCK.

Be patient.

Ask your friends to move, if they wont they aren't your friends.

 

I understand your frustration. Well not so much since it is mostly about tripe and not built with logic.

Yeah thanks for the needless insults. Shows great maturity there. All I can do is laugh at your comment about my friends. They've all spent 3 days playing so far... that's a LOT of progress to lose and I will not ask them to do that. Don't you dare judge them based on your own ignorance.

Yes the servers did eventually unlock last weekend, but we never knew when they would do so. Moogle was locked for well over 12 hours last Saturday. Either I sit at my computer hitting refresh all day long or I give up on early access and do something else. You see the problem? These server locks basically mean some players are being denied early access...

  cheyane

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8/24/13 9:11:18 AM#48
Can't you exercise some patience ? They might give free transfers later if you seriously cannot deal with  launch woes then  don't play at launch .Wait for a week it will probably be much better then.

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  Alberel

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OP  8/24/13 9:15:34 AM#49
Originally posted by cheyane
Can't you exercise some patience ? They might give free transfers later if you seriously cannot deal with  launch woes then  don't play at launch .Wait for a week it will probably be much better then.

If it were a case of server downtime or something unforseen I would be more patient.

The fact is though someone at SE is choosing to lock these servers with the intent to encourage players to roll on other worlds. They seem to be missing the fact that a lot of us will not roll elsewhere though as we already have friends on the locked worlds.

This isn't a bug, or glitch, or server crash... it's a really bad method of population control that is pissing off a lot of people who want to play with their friends.

  vidiotking

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one in the bush is better than one in the hand.

8/24/13 9:17:26 AM#50

@ Alberel:

It sucks, there's no denying it. My friend waited 3 hours during P4 to get on Behemouth so he could play w/ me...

I don't know how many mmo launches you've been involved with, but they don't usually go too well. Not that this information is supposed to be any consolation to you.

Jus' sayin'.

SE seems to be pretty legit. I mean they did do right by FFXIV, remaking it I mean. Maybe they will offer free server transfers. To SELECT servers. That would make sense.

  Alberel

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OP  8/24/13 9:20:20 AM#51
Originally posted by vidiotking

@ Alberel:

It sucks, there's no denying it. My friend waited 3 hours during P4 to get on Behemouth so he could play w/ me...

I don't know how many mmo launches you've been involved with, but they don't usually go too well. Not that this information is supposed to be any consolation to you.

Jus' sayin'.

Yeah I've played plenty of MMOs at launch and I'm used to problems. To be honest the thing that's actually bothering me isn't so much the fact that I can't get in, but that SE are arbitrarily blocking me form getting in despite the servers being up and running fine. It's been nearly five and a half hours now...

  joe2721

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Posts: 159

8/24/13 9:21:54 AM#52

It was the same issues last weekend And many people were just defending SE and  using " its beta as an excuse.

Now i image they're going to say well its early access what do you suspect

  vidiotking

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one in the bush is better than one in the hand.

8/24/13 9:28:43 AM#53

I know I'm a broken record at this point, but... It's a server population balance issue. It's not arbitrary, it's not a beta issue or a bug.

They are trying to spread out the population. 

If you're trying to get into Gilgamesh, you're probably s.o.l.

If I were running SE (haha) I would give FREE server transfers soon after release to SELECT servers so that friends/guilds(link shells in this game?) could all move enmasse to less populated servers.

  Kyleran

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8/24/13 9:28:45 AM#54
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Aldous.Huxley
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Aldous.Huxley
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by vidiotking
Originally posted by Aldous.Huxley
Originally posted by grimal

Maybe I will just go and play GW2.

To each their own but I would sooner stare at a locked server screen than play GW2.

If you have 2 monitors, you can play GW2 on one monitor while clicking the refresh button on FF on monitor 2... GW2 isn't all that bad. Untill 'end game' anyway.

They have a timer that only allows you to hit the refresh at an interval.  It's really rather frustrating.

I wasn't trying to start a GW2 vs FF debate here.  I was simply pointing out that the current "lock" they are employing is not a very good implementation to manage the queue.  After over thirteen years of the genre, you would think they could have chosen a better alternative.

I'm already annoyed with this game.  If this is pissing me off, I can only assume there are many others that feel the same way.

What, in your estimation, would be a better way to handle the overpopulation of servers

going into a large scale launch? An 8 hr queue is not a viable alternative, IMHO.

And sitting hitting the server refresh button for... going on four and a half hours now is somehow better?

The only difference between a queue and server locks is that the queue at least tells you roughly how long you have to wait.

Or you could roll on a different server for the time being instead of continuing to beat your head against a brick wall.

In other words waste my time on another server with a character I either won't keep, or will pay SE to transfer back to the server I wanted... yeah that sounds worth it.

Seriously, the 'play on another server' comments are ridiculous. All my friends are on Moogle, therefore I can and will only play on Moogle. Don't make it sound like I'm choosing to do this. It's either this or I don't play at all.

EDIT: Vidiot I get what you're saying but a queue would cover that already. When a server has a long queue those that don't care where they play will pick one with a shorter queue. Some of us don't have much choice and will still pick a locked server whatever they do. If they gave us a lengthy queue it would serve the same purpose without the frustration for those of us with no real choice here...

ER point of order, you are in fact choosing this based on your own self imposed limitations.

You don't "have" to play with your friends, you can go make new friends on a new server, if playing the game is more important to you than hanging with your friends.

I understand why you don't want to, but it's still a choice.  Wait long enough, and this server will open to you, but then your friends might be 50 levels ahead of you.

Sucks, but the only way around it was to be available to roll your character whenever your friends did, they somehow managed, while you missed the boat.

Or ....perhaps there will be paid character transfers, not the worse thing in the world you know.

At the end of the day it's up to you to figure out how you are going to deal with this situation, Square E isn't going to fix it for you.

 

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  Four0Six

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8/24/13 9:34:35 AM#55
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Four0Six
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Elegance92
Originally posted by Alberel

Yeah there is that option... but the fact that this system even makes that the only real option just highlights how stupid it is.

Even worse is the fact THAT server might get locked while they are moving >_>

Indeed... right now all but one of the EU servers are locked. Last weekend there was actually a point when ALL of the EU servers were locked which... well... there are no words...

Seriously?

 

READ your OWN WORDS: "Last weekend there was actually a point when ALL of the EU servers were locked."

 

MEANING THAT AT SOME POINT THEY WILL UNLOCK.

Be patient.

Ask your friends to move, if they wont they aren't your friends.

 

I understand your frustration. Well not so much since it is mostly about tripe and not built with logic.

Yeah thanks for the needless insults. Shows great maturity there. All I can do is laugh at your comment about my friends. They've all spent 3 days playing so far... that's a LOT of progress to lose and I will not ask them to do that. Don't you dare judge them based on your own ignorance.

Yes the servers did eventually unlock last weekend, but we never knew when they would do so. Moogle was locked for well over 12 hours last Saturday. Either I sit at my computer hitting refresh all day long or I give up on early access and do something else. You see the problem? These server locks basically mean some players are being denied early access...

So take your controller and go home.

You are right though, SOE should let EVERYBODY in and have a crappy launch. Oh wait sarcasm again.

 

You want to insult my maturity, yet here you are with all the "Me me me  me me , let me me me me play where I I I I I want. Now now now now now now."

 

I have a kid and she stopped that behavior several years ago.

  Mtibbs1989

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8/24/13 9:36:50 AM#56
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Aldous.Huxley
Originally posted by Alberel

There is no reason. They have login queues so any issues relating to having too many characters on a server are solved by that alone.

The official statement from SE is that it's to reduce congestion in starting areas... but Moogle was already locked before the servers went live so I find it hard to believe the starting zones are congested at all.

You could be right. They're probably just doing it to mess with you.

Ok then, explain why no other game ever has to do this? I can think of no reason why they should NEED to lock servers like this if they have server queues.

Now you're just assuming, there have been quite a few cases where games will keep people from making new characters on their servers. You're just blowing smoke.


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  Alberel

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OP  8/24/13 9:43:26 AM#57

Originally posted by Mtibbs1989

Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Aldous.Huxley
Originally posted by Alberel

There is no reason. They have login queues so any issues relating to having too many characters on a server are solved by that alone.

The official statement from SE is that it's to reduce congestion in starting areas... but Moogle was already locked before the servers went live so I find it hard to believe the starting zones are congested at all.

You could be right. They're probably just doing it to mess with you.

Ok then, explain why no other game ever has to do this? I can think of no reason why they should NEED to lock servers like this if they have server queues.

Now you're just assuming, there have been quite a few cases where games will keep people from making new characters on their servers. You're just blowing smoke.


They are usually games that do not have server queues. The entire point of server queues is to prevent over-population and it was introduced to replace server locks. It is better to be locked from the server with a timer telling you when you can play instead of nothing at all.

 

Originally posted by Four0Six

Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Four0Six
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Elegance92
Originally posted by Alberel

Yeah there is that option... but the fact that this system even makes that the only real option just highlights how stupid it is.

Even worse is the fact THAT server might get locked while they are moving >_>

Indeed... right now all but one of the EU servers are locked. Last weekend there was actually a point when ALL of the EU servers were locked which... well... there are no words...

Seriously?

 

READ your OWN WORDS: "Last weekend there was actually a point when ALL of the EU servers were locked."

 

MEANING THAT AT SOME POINT THEY WILL UNLOCK.

Be patient.

Ask your friends to move, if they wont they aren't your friends.

 

I understand your frustration. Well not so much since it is mostly about tripe and not built with logic.

Yeah thanks for the needless insults. Shows great maturity there. All I can do is laugh at your comment about my friends. They've all spent 3 days playing so far... that's a LOT of progress to lose and I will not ask them to do that. Don't you dare judge them based on your own ignorance.

Yes the servers did eventually unlock last weekend, but we never knew when they would do so. Moogle was locked for well over 12 hours last Saturday. Either I sit at my computer hitting refresh all day long or I give up on early access and do something else. You see the problem? These server locks basically mean some players are being denied early access...

So take your controller and go home.

You are right though, SOE should let EVERYBODY in and have a crappy launch. Oh wait sarcasm again.

 

You want to insult my maturity, yet here you are with all the "Me me me  me me , let me me me me play where I I I I I want. Now now now now now now."

 

I have a kid and she stopped that behavior several years ago.

Considering that you came in here throwing insults around when I was quite reasonably venting my frustrations in a non-aggressive manner (unlike yourself) I think it's quite clear to anyone else reading this which of us is being immature. I'm not even gonna bother with you any more.

 

  Mtibbs1989

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8/24/13 9:48:27 AM#58
Well you can sit here and cry a river or you can man/woman up and just make a character on a server that you and your friends both can play on. By the way, there's more than one reason for a company to limit the amount of players on a single server, it's called population balancing and obviously they don't want the vast majority of players going to a single server. Either way, I'm off to play my healer.


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  Alberel

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OP  8/24/13 10:01:13 AM#59
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Well you can sit here and cry a river or you can man/woman up and just make a character on a server that you and your friends both can play on. By the way, there's more than one reason for a company to limit the amount of players on a single server, it's called population balancing and obviously they don't want the vast majority of players going to a single server. Either way, I'm off to play my healer.

The 'play on another server' response has been rebutted multiple times throughout this thread. Have fun playing.

  Mtibbs1989

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8/24/13 10:04:55 AM#60
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
Well you can sit here and cry a river or you can man/woman up and just make a character on a server that you and your friends both can play on. By the way, there's more than one reason for a company to limit the amount of players on a single server, it's called population balancing and obviously they don't want the vast majority of players going to a single server. Either way, I'm off to play my healer.

The 'play on another server' response has been rebutted multiple times throughout this thread. Have fun playing.

Yet here you are still complaining and not doing anything. The only person(s) to blame is yourself and your friend(s)/family.


Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.

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