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  User Deleted
8/24/13 9:45:55 AM#21
Originally posted by Aison2
Eve is f2p for smart people. Many dont pay a single cent and just buy plex from other people.

Corrected it for you. It takes basic math to know how to apply your time for maximum profit with a lil side helping of fun.

  Aison2

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8/24/13 10:53:45 AM#22
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Aison2
Eve is f2p for smart people. Many dont pay a single cent and just buy plex from other people.

Corrected it for you. It takes basic math to know how to apply your time for maximum profit with a lil side helping of fun.

Basic math tells you that if you earn  less than  600m /hour isk its better to work an hour and buy it over the real money.

Especially when the isk earning is less enjoyable than regular work. Thats why i said for most its only rational if their time is not valuable to them.

Pi*1337/100 = 42

  Doogiehowser

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8/24/13 10:55:45 AM#23
I have been playing EVE for F2P for a very long time now thanks to Plex.

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
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  tawess

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8/24/13 11:04:16 AM#24

Also i would be careful with hailing any of the kickstarter wonders as the new lord and saviour before you see them  in the flesh so to speak. A LOT can happen during development and i give you a 500:1 odds in your favour that you will not like them all.

 

EvE F2P... Their playerbase would eat them alive and they would loose such a mass of players that no new recruits could ever make it up... Especially as the veterans would turn their shell-shocked rage at the newcomers and tear them to shreds.

 

Have you ever seen what happens when veterans of EvE go full on native... It is not pretty.

Tomas Soapbox

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  User Deleted
8/24/13 11:25:17 AM#25
Originally posted by Aison2
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Aison2
Eve is f2p for smart people. Many dont pay a single cent and just buy plex from other people.

Corrected it for you. It takes basic math to know how to apply your time for maximum profit with a lil side helping of fun.

Basic math tells you that if you earn  less than  600m /hour isk its better to work an hour and buy it over the real money.

Especially when the isk earning is less enjoyable than regular work. Thats why i said for most its only rational if their time is not valuable to them.

o.O bare minimum survival in F2P mode is 20-30 mil profit per day. Wherever you pulled 600 m/hour out of I have no  idea.

  Aison2

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8/24/13 12:29:16 PM#26
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Aison2
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Aison2
Eve is f2p for smart people. Many dont pay a single cent and just buy plex from other people.

Corrected it for you. It takes basic math to know how to apply your time for maximum profit with a lil side helping of fun.

Basic math tells you that if you earn  less than  600m /hour isk its better to work an hour and buy it over the real money.

Especially when the isk earning is less enjoyable than regular work. Thats why i said for most its only rational if their time is not valuable to them.

o.O bare minimum survival in F2P mode is 20-30 mil profit per day. Wherever you pulled 600 m/hour out of I have no  idea.

600m is rough plex price.  The opportunity cost of  spending time earning isk playing the game vs  working and earning money to buy the sub.  If you cant earn a plex in the same time you can earn a sub at work its less efficient.

 

Pi*1337/100 = 42

  kovah

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DaZeD aNd AmUsEd

8/24/13 12:59:48 PM#27

The OP hates EVE-Online and has made that clear in every single post about this game he/she has ever posted.

That said:  /wags finger - Y'all posting in a troll thread!

Cheers,

k

  uplink4242

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8/24/13 4:17:00 PM#28

I can sense the OP is butthurt about losing something and now wants to preach about the end of the game so he can feel better.

Eve is already f2p for good players.

  Quazal.A

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8/24/13 4:32:25 PM#29

runs around... anooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Eve is dying, ................................ hellllllll quick guys get in the 

final fantasy version 94 (heck thats the version of FF we will be on before eve is closed)

This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game :) were of course your welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
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  User Deleted
8/24/13 4:38:39 PM#30
Originally posted by apanz3r
Originally posted by Krematory
Not this again, please. EVE won't go free to play. It won't happen. Ever.

Yah , the same was told about every game and all went f2p, including games that had HUGE budget and IP .

You must be one of those that bought BPOs at the price of 7 years profit .

They know that the heat is approaching, see eve-valkyry

Ultima Online would like to have a word with you...

  Kyleran

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8/24/13 5:05:14 PM#31
d) None of the above

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
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  Torcip

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8/24/13 5:10:11 PM#32
Eve is steadily gaining more and more subscribers, why would they go f2p. Star Citizen is going to be nothing like Eve, not everyone likes twitch combat.
  Purutzil

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8/24/13 5:16:17 PM#33

No they don't for one...

 

If eve did... no. Sorry, its just very boring and the ONLY way you go anywhere is to join a corperation. Its just all 'money money money' where wealth = power simple enough. The only time any bit of skill comes into play is with organized grouping,  which still gives huge emphasis on wealth with little the player does to really effect the outcome outside the strategy of who to attack and when.

 

I am looking for a great space sim game trust me, it would be awesome. Eve is just a terrible one at that, more for those who like the 'money crunching' elements then action/adventure and the likes. I'll stick with dungeon crawlers if I want to do the number crunching type fun for having the fun (even if at times very simple) combat elements to play with

  NagelRitter

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8/24/13 5:30:25 PM#34
Originally posted by apanz3r

Yeah the pay model works for now because you play eve or play what  : pandas?

In 2 years you will play eve or star_citizen or elite dangerous or one of the many space_games from kickstart.

Yeah I am gonna wait until those games actually show something first, talk is cheap...

Truth is, people are willing to pay for quality. That's all EVE is. It will only go F2P if it becomes a shitty game.

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Currently playing: GW2, EVE
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  GeezerGamer

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8/24/13 5:32:11 PM#35
Where is the option for EVE wont' ever go F2P?

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  apanz3r

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OP  8/24/13 5:40:52 PM#36
Originally posted by Purutzil

No they don't for one...

 

If eve did... no. Sorry, its just very boring and the ONLY way you go anywhere is to join a corperation. Its just all 'money money money' where wealth = power simple enough. The only time any bit of skill comes into play is with organized grouping,  which still gives huge emphasis on wealth with little the player does to really effect the outcome outside the strategy of who to attack and when.

 

I am looking for a great space sim game trust me, it would be awesome. Eve is just a terrible one at that, more for those who like the 'money crunching' elements then action/adventure and the likes. I'll stick with dungeon crawlers if I want to do the number crunching type fun for having the fun (even if at times very simple) combat elements to play with

I think at begining eve was supose to be a nice space sim but in time somehow this idea got lost.

All becomed money, blob and numbers.

I am not quite sure why CCP give up on initial ideeas, maybe they focused too much on failed projects like DUST, world of darkness and God know what other failed projects. 

  Gruug

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8/24/13 5:44:41 PM#37
F2p is nothing more then a "ding joint". Players don't get the benefit from the ding joint...the con artists do.

Let's party like it is 1863!

  Robokapp

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8/24/13 5:49:39 PM#38
Originally posted by apanz3r
Originally posted by Muke
Originally posted by Enkindu2

Eve will never be F2P.  Their subscription model works. 

 

Of course if you are good at the game it already IS F2P.

this.

 

It's easy as fk to earn enough  ISK to support your account(s) with plex or 60d GTC.

 

Do you  ENJOY farming in eve?  What is the FUN in killing the 500 spawn in a belt, or blitzing the mission for 1000 time ?

Do you do that for any other reason except getting isk ? Is a pure reptitive job without any fun or sense of acomplishment.

sir I must ask you something serious here.

 

you are asking an eve player if he thinks eve's fun.

 

what do you think can possibly happen when you do that ?

  apanz3r

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OP  8/24/13 5:50:13 PM#39
Originally posted by Gruug
F2p is nothing more then a "ding joint". Players don't get the benefit from the ding joint...the con artists do.

World of tanks looks pretty solid game to me. Is free to play and is 100 times bigger than eve.

  tawess

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8/24/13 5:50:31 PM#40
Originally posted by apanz3r

I am not quite sure why CCP give up on initial ideeas, maybe they focused too much on failed projects like DUST, world of darkness and God know what other failed projects. 

I just want to point out that WoD is not a failed project per se. But if your gold shitting goose is doing a tango with a chainsaw it is very unwise to try and build a new front porch to save it.

 

Or more plainly, they had manage to piss the Eve crowd off so badly they needed to put extra focus on saving Eve as it is very difficult to make new games without money.

 

Dust... Well if you are going to make a game engine to handle people, why not build a game around it to test it. (also the idea is kinda awesome on paper, who would not like to be on the way to a boring and send if a few orbital strikes) but i think it did sort of fail so i give you that one.

Tomas Soapbox

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