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General Discussion  » EQ:N, the most Soul Crushing MMO to be released in the past 10 years!

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  Zorgo

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Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising?

8/23/13 6:55:21 PM#21
Originally posted by Rydeson
Originally posted by Shadowguy64

So just cancel the project?

Hit the delete button on all the art assets?

Fire the team?

 

What is it you want them to do?

They have already done 2 reboots.. might as well make it 3 and back to the chalkboard :) and btw.. they aren't that far along in this game anyways.. trust me.. lol

And then recreate a game which pleases EQ1 and EQ2 fans - drain their population, close them down. Invest millions and millions and millions after 3 reboots to capture their existing customers and the very very very few who wish to see the same ol' combat and the same ol' tired graphic style and the same ol' gameplay we had 14 years ago. 

Yeah - good plan.

  Shadowguy64

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8/23/13 6:56:40 PM#22
Originally posted by Rydeson
Originally posted by Shadowguy64

So just cancel the project?

Hit the delete button on all the art assets?

Fire the team?

 

What is it you want them to do?

They have already done 2 reboots.. might as well make it 3 and back to the chalkboard :) and btw.. they aren't that far along in this game anyways.. trust me.. lol

 

But they won Best of Show at E3...

  ckeeton999

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8/23/13 7:00:34 PM#23
If you want to play Everquest 1 or 2. Then go play them, no one wants the same game we've been playing for the last 15 years. Get over the past.
  nolic1

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8/23/13 7:02:26 PM#24
So I see that another one has popped up about the end of EQ franchise again. Well I will be playing along with I am sure many more people.


To me I enjoy gaming I dont play to be uber I play to have fun. If a game is not fun to me guess what I move on and play something else till I find one that is. When I find that great game and not sure if in my life time there will be one I hope it has everything I want in an mmo.

  M1sf1t

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8/23/13 7:03:29 PM#25


Originally posted by Aison2
 Balance for the average and 50% will suck at it.  People who don't "win" leave.

So the solution is sought: balance below average skill requirements for most gameplay.

MOBAs have proven easier = more players.



MOBA's are only easy in that their controls are simple. To dominate in MOBA's in a competitive environment on the other hand is a completely different matter.

Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.

Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:

GW2 (+LoL and BF3)

  Distopia

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8/23/13 7:12:53 PM#26
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by ckeeton999
Bearknights "opinion" based on a tech demo is pretty much invalid

 

Yet, everyone who is praising the game based on tech demo's have valid opinions right?

 

 

Playing obtuse? Is it so hard to understand the point here; not to mention understand the difference between speaking hypothetically and about possibility rather than declarations one way or the other?

To answer your question no, which is an obvious freaking answer, yet can you name any posters going around saying the game is a success or will be over and over and over? You know so we can compare the same type of activity?

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

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  Drakynn

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8/23/13 7:14:58 PM#27
Originally posted by Vutar
Originally posted by ckeeton999
Bearknights "opinion" based on a tech demo is pretty much invalid

 

Yet, everyone who is praising the game based on tech demo's have valid opinions right?

 

 

Nope people who are stating their personal beliefs based on nothing but words and a short tech demo are being called on it here negative or positive.Mostly everything you've seen in this thread is calling out BearKnight for once again stating his strongly held belief on what EQN will be,based on barely any actual evidence,as hard fact and restating it in a new thread for the 1 billionth time.

We have no idea what EQN will turn out like at this stage the only valid opinions one can state at this tiem are if you like,hate or ambivalent about the graphics,the parkour movement shown in the demo and the limited combat shown with no mob AI and only 3 abilities for 2 class

Once more information and solid game play video evidence is shown then we can have at it with more informed opinions.Right now all that's happening is wheel spinning with the same crap from both sides being repeated over and over,including mine.

 

  Sengi

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8/23/13 8:42:31 PM#28
Originally posted by Zorgo

[mod edit]

Please stop calling everyone who only utters a minor complain about the game a hater. Why can't some people not understand, that you can like something and still criticise parts of it. You can be fan of a football team and still don't like one of the players or throw empty cans at the stupid lion mascot for that matter.

I know, you only want to defend the game. But I'm sure BearKnight is as exited about EQN as you are. As you see, he has 7 points that he finds "amazing". It must be allowed to say something critical about the game. Just consider that the greatest fans are always the greatest critics.

Do you honestly think someone would repeatedly write long posts about a game he hates? Most games on the list here at the site are cheap asian grinders. What do you think why he doesn't post there.

  Sengi

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Posts: 305

8/23/13 9:42:59 PM#29
Originally posted by BearKnight

-Multi-Class mentality

I find the idea that you can be a warrior one second and the next second a mage quite odd and somewhat immersion braking.

-Graphics aimed at Children, think WoW 2.0

Dude, I feel your pain.

-Major mainstreaming of the Everquest brand, ie: dumbing down...something many didn't think was possible for a Sandbox

While I don't like it, I think that this is a necessity to some extent. EQN has to appeal also to casuals, otherwise it wouldn't. be successful. I only hope they cater to all groups equally as Dave Georgeson said.

-GW2's horribly bland combat system, with attack telegraphs

-GW2's absolutely pathetic skill system, yaaay 8 abilities!

-GW2's Weapon system, ties in with above point about skills.

I think the combat mechanics are not that bad. I don't know what fighting in EQ and EQ2 was like, but if I compare WoW and GW2, I prefer GW2. I find it to complicated and unnecessary to manage 30 skills at once, and it is a step forward to concentrate on the action instead in the skill bar. Maybe I'm not hardcore enough. I can understand that it sets off someone who has mastered the system if his skills are made worthless.

The problem with GW2 was that the fights with world bosses always ended in zergs. But I think that has not much with the basic fighting mechanics but with the AI and EQN will hopefully change that.

-Horizontal progression primarily based on gear (WoW raiding gear-stepping, but without levels?)

I like horizontal progression and hope they get rid of the gear grind. But I wouldn't be so sure here maybe it is not all that horizontal. I still don't get this thing with the tiers. I think the haven't told us the most important part jet.

-The same engine that runs Planetside 2

Why is this bad? I thought the engine was well received everywhere.

-Developers that think making the graphics look BETTER, or correcting their mistakes, is a crime (ie: Banning for SweetFX)

What is this about? I haven't heart about it.

-How does the world handle "Troll" guilds destroying the world?

I'm sure they have thought about that. I only hope their solution will not involve phasing.

-How does the Engine handle 100 players in the same area? Does it dynamically-instance players from each other like PS2? (this turned PS2 into a mess btw)

That is a good point. I hope the will be able to display more players at once because the game does not involve shooter mechanics and therefore only needs a lower latency.

At the end of the day, the game is unplayable with their current WoW 2.0 Cartoon art-style, but is one of the more future-oriented core mechanics games we've seen since SWG/DAOC. Truly a frustrating event :(!!! 

You can say that aloud. I think with EQN the whole mmorpg genre is at a crossroad. If it is successful it will establish the AAA mainstream sandbox mmo, and if it fails we are in for 10 years of WoW-clones or the genre will collapse altogether.

Even if EQN should not be the perfect game for me, I'm already looking forward for all the EQN-clones. ;) That will be glorious new age of mmos!  

  Gnostik

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Posts: 47

8/23/13 9:53:21 PM#30

So the game is "soul crushing" and "unplayable" because you don't care for the art?

You say WoW's art is "made for children". I say WoW's art is one of the major reasons it's been so successful. It has style. The textures are interesting. It's not overly realistic; it knows that people don't play this type of game for photo-realism.

If you haven't noticed, MMORPGs that try for photo-realistic graphics tend not to do so well. I won't go so far as to say the graphics are the cause, but photo-realism is certainly not a requirement and probably not even an asset in terms of making your game a success.

The graphics in EQ2 were one of the main things that turned me off from the game. They were overly realistic, particularly  the textures, which I feel rarely looks good rendered in 3D at the level of the typical video card. Similarly, I felt like the graphics engine "upgrade" to Dark Age of Camelot was a total failure, largely because they tried to move more toward "realism" and lost the distinctive art style. The day WoW "updates" its iconic and evocative graphics engine will be the end of an era.

From what I've seen, EQ:N's art style is somewhere between the pseudo-realism of EQ2 and the highly stylized graphics of WoW. Dark Age of Camelot's original art was in a similar place, and that game's original art is possibly my favorite in the genre - "realistic", plausible, but tweaked in interesting and artistic ways.

A game's art is only going to make it "unplayable" if it's poorly done so as to not meet a minimum standard of quality. EQ:N's art clearly meets that standard, even if you personally don't care for the direction they've taken it.

  superconducting

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Posts: 693

8/23/13 10:04:38 PM#31

ONLY downside that could be considered remotely valid on your list is the Disney graphics. And I mean ONLY. And even then, it's still a matter of opinion. Which is what your entire list is- OPINION. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with the combat, progression, skill system, etc. (or at least there's no way to criticize it until we've seen it)

 

But more to the point-- Do you have some kind of personal vendetta against Sony? Did EQ classic give you post-traumatic stress disorder that you feel it's necessary to tarnish the series in any way you can?

We haven't even seen EQN in action and you are committed to bashing their game! Just in case you didn't know, all the bickering and ranting is not changing anyone's mind here.

  Sengi

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8/23/13 10:28:06 PM#32
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by Sengi
Originally posted by Zorgo

In what way is this any different than any other thread you've written.

BearKnight hates EQN. We get it....what is your objective?

You keep coming into the bar and screaming how much you hate beer. I guess the difference in this one is that you are telling us you hate the taste of beer but you are conflicted as you enjoy alcoholism.

 I don't know what to do with this info.....you want me to hate it too?

Sorry you were let down. Time to move on, buddy.

Please stop calling everyone who only utters a minor complain about the game a hater. Why can't some people not understand, that you can like something and still criticise parts of it. You can be fan of a football team and still don't like one of the players or throw empty cans at the stupid lion mascot for that matter.

I know, you only want to defend the game. But I'm sure BearKnight is as exited about EQN as you are. As you see, he has 7 points that he finds "amazing". It must be allowed to say something critical about the game. Just consider that the greatest fans are always the greatest critics.

Do you honestly think someone would repeatedly write long posts about a game he hates? Most games on the list here at the site are cheap asian grinders. What do you think why he doesn't post there.

Minor?  He pretty much said he hates the whole game.

Where exactly does he say he hates EQN? Instant he calls the game "amazing" several times. He said some it has some "horrible aspects", "deal breakers" and "frustrating announcements". I must admit this sounds quite a bit extreme, but some of the actually aren't minor complains.

 

But the reason why the "aspects" are so "horrible" is that they occur in a otherwise literally groundbreaking game.

As he said, the new Warhammer 40k game is frustrating too, but we can just shrug it off as another cheap P2W game. Its only sad that the 40k IP gets butcher so much.

 

And I must say I don't agree with BearKnight on many points. And you don't have to either. But The Kerra really is a deal-breaker.

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Actually I wouldn't have a problem if someone would post that he hates EQN as long as he stays polite. That's his opinion, so what?

  GrayKodiak

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8/23/13 10:29:02 PM#33

If there is one thing from the very very limited information we have that I am not worried about it would be the engine

Planetside 2 isn't a perfect game, but there is no denying that the engine is good enough to host an MMORPG, it can handle a LOT of people and equipment at the same time, with particle effects and weapons going on, it isn't perfectly optimized but I was able to run it on my old AMD a6 with integrated graphic card.

 

Yes MMO's are not shooters, FPS games have limited models in comparison to most MMO's and far less customization of those models, at the same time the details in Planetside are very high compared to an MMO and it still had three factions with various classes various weapons and a lot of ground combat engines and planes all on screen all at the same time. It is a good engine with good lighting and I am glad they are using it.

I think if you look past your dislikes you will admit that the landscapes shown in the Landmark demo videos are very nice.

  Whiskey_Sam

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Nemo me impune lacessit.

8/23/13 10:45:03 PM#34
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  Dauntis

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8/23/13 11:02:03 PM#35

Mainstreaming is not a bad thing, for the company and for investors and hell for that matter it is not a problem for players who like having a world full of other PCs. Oh and not bad for the game at all as generating revenue is the point and the more players you have the longer the game lasts and the more updates and such can be created.

 

Sorry MMOs aren't designed with niche hipsters in mind... go figure something with MASSIVELY in the title attempts to serve the masses rather than cater to the elitists.

I would like to give an opinion on this post, but if I agree I will offend people who disagree. While if I disagree my comment will be seen as inflammatory. Either way I will get banned by this site full of the most delicate flowers in online gaming. Ban people for giving honest opinions... beautiful. Unfortunately I still like the articles.

  Drakynn

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8/23/13 11:06:36 PM#36
Originally posted by Sengi
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by Sengi

Please stop calling everyone who only utters a minor complain about the game a hater. Why can't some people not understand, that you can like something and still criticise parts of it. You can be fan of a football team and still don't like one of the players or throw empty cans at the stupid lion mascot for that matter.

I know, you only want to defend the game. But I'm sure BearKnight is as exited about EQN as you are. As you see, he has 7 points that he finds "amazing". It must be allowed to say something critical about the game. Just consider that the greatest fans are always the greatest critics.

Do you honestly think someone would repeatedly write long posts about a game he hates? Most games on the list here at the site are cheap asian grinders. What do you think why he doesn't post there.

Minor?  He pretty much said he hates the whole game.

Where exactly does he say he hates EQN? Instant he calls the game "amazing" several times. He said some it has some "horrible aspects", "deal breakers" and "frustrating announcements". I must admit this sounds quite a bit extreme, but some of the actually aren't minor complains.

 

But the reason why the "aspects" are so "horrible" is that they occur in a otherwise literally groundbreaking game.

As he said, the new Warhammer 40k game is frustrating too, but we can just shrug it off as another cheap P2W game. Its only sad that the 40k IP gets butcher so much.

 

And I must say I don't agree with BearKnight on many points. And you don't have to either. But The Kerra really is a deal-breaker.

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Actually I wouldn't have a problem if someone would post that he hates EQN as long as he stays polite. That's his opinion, so what?

You seem to be late tot he party.

The reason people are cynical about the OP's intent is because everyday since Aug 2nd he's created multiple threads which all boil down to he doesn't like the character art style.He'll add in whatever else he's seen someone else talking about to have an excuse to make a new thread but it always boils down to he graphics and his hatred of them.

This is the first time I remember him posting anything positive about EQN but you can't blame anyone for believing it's just there to give him another excuse to complain about the graphics given his past posts/threads.

Also aside from the graphics and the few skills from 2 classes shown in the tech demo at SOE live there is no basis for any judgement positive or negative.Everything else right now is words and promises.

  Sengi

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8/23/13 11:15:24 PM#37
Originally posted by Gnostik

So the game is "soul crushing" and "unplayable" because you don't care for the art?

You say WoW's art is "made for children". I say WoW's art is one of the major reasons it's been so successful. It has style. The textures are interesting. It's not overly realistic; it knows that people don't play this type of game for photo-realism.

If you haven't noticed, MMORPGs that try for photo-realistic graphics tend not to do so well. I won't go so far as to say the graphics are the cause, but photo-realism is certainly not a requirement and probably not even an asset in terms of making your game a success.

The graphics in EQ2 were one of the main things that turned me off from the game. They were overly realistic, particularly  the textures, which I feel rarely looks good rendered in 3D at the level of the typical video card. Similarly, I felt like the graphics engine "upgrade" to Dark Age of Camelot was a total failure, largely because they tried to move more toward "realism" and lost the distinctive art style. The day WoW "updates" its iconic and evocative graphics engine will be the end of an era.

From what I've seen, EQ:N's art style is somewhere between the pseudo-realism of EQ2 and the highly stylized graphics of WoW. Dark Age of Camelot's original art was in a similar place, and that game's original art is possibly my favorite in the genre - "realistic", plausible, but tweaked in interesting and artistic ways.

A game's art is only going to make it "unplayable" if it's poorly done so as to not meet a minimum standard of quality. EQ:N's art clearly meets that standard, even if you personally don't care for the direction they've taken it.

Actually the point is that he does care for the art, he only dislikes it.

 

WoWs art style was actually born out of necessity. They had to use low poly graphics, so they embraced that and made it look as if they wanted it that way, which was a really good idea. Its high poly models made EQ2 almost unplayable at the start. I don't like EQ2s graphics either. Also they where just not good from a technical standpoint.

 

No one is asking for photo-realism. You are right this is not the way to go. But there is more to a graphic style then realism versus stylization. The art style can also be gritty or whimsical.

I don't think EQNs art style is anywhere between WoW and EQ2, instead the went in a whole different direction - straight to Disneyland. Art can be stylized and dark at the same time. Just look at The Walking Dead.

 

I think the graphics of Dark Age of Camelot where perfect for their time. They look serious, and serious graphics are good for serious action and serious storytelling. The characters in Dark Age of Camelot look like they want to chop off some body parts, and you will buy into it, if they tell you afterwards, that they don't get the gory images out of their head. With EQNs graphics this would look both out of place.

  NagelRitter

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Joined: 7/18/13
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8/23/13 11:23:48 PM#38
I guess why he's single is obvious enough, I think I am gonna add him to my troll list along with narcissusaddon or w/e that dude's name was.

Favorite MMO: Vanilla WoW
Currently playing: GW2, EVE
Excited for: Wildstar, maybe?

  Theocritus

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8/23/13 11:26:48 PM#39
I dont listen to a word that Smedley says...he's a glorified salesman and not much else......My hopes for EQN aren't very high.... SOE often promises the world and delivers Little Caesars pizza.....
  IMPYRE

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Yes, I have a question. When did you turn into a nutbar?

8/23/13 11:32:31 PM#40
Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by BearKnight
Originally posted by Zorgo

In what way is this any different than any other thread you've written.

BearKnight hates EQN. We get it....what is your objective?

You keep coming into the bar and screaming how much you hate beer. I don't know what to do with this info.....you want me to hate it too?

Sorry you were let down. Time to move on, buddy.

 

This is a forum, and more to the point your opinion is no better or worse than mine. I'm allowed to share my opinion just as you are. 

 

If you don't like what I have to say then don't post.

 

Furthermore, I do not HATE EQ:N, I hate the lead director for yet again trying to Mainstream EQ. Look what happened to EQ2! It's the same blasted thing happening again. 

 

I'd rather say something, and try, than give up and walk away.

What do you hope to achieve?

 

Well that's easy answer, it's called awareness.

I too am disappointed in some features that EQN will have, however my personal hype on this game has gone from 10 to 5 and still dropping. The game looks to be very simple base to draw in more of the instant gratification crowd and this is not what I look for in a mmorpg, we already got way too many of the same ole same ole or a one trick pony mmo.

Once I heard a possible port to console, well we know where this game is going. Yeah it may be fun for the majority looking for another easy mmo to play, but I will look into this game when it releases and see if anything has changed from now.

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