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General Discussion  » [POLL] Still going to play ESO with sub?

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  LlexX

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Joined: 1/09/12
Posts: 200

8/22/13 2:30:26 AM#21
ESO does not deserve to be P2P, it should be B2P after all its an online single player game with with co-op or small group orientated content, its nowhere near close to the "Massive MO", and thats why it don't deserves a P2P sub.
  swizards01

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8/22/13 3:15:34 AM#22

I'm not playing with sub game because you still pay for items. If no cash shop in the game, other website selling like gold. Every mmo there is someone spend a lot in the game and still P2W. I just playing F2P because if i enjoy the game. I buy item to support the game. The 15 dollars a month sub you can own a real website. I don't care if he win, I'm just enjoying playing. If you want a real challenge, play MOBA or RTS. If you are very rich go to bidding. Now im playing Prime World and i enjoy a lot.

  crack_fox

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Joined: 7/09/04
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8/22/13 3:36:20 AM#23
Happy to sub to support a quality MMO, but there is still the question of the cash shop. Choosing to make the game P2P is encouraging. 
  Brabbit1987

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8/22/13 5:14:34 AM#24
Originally posted by Elikal
I just don't get it. Is 13 or 14 Dollar really a reason not to play? Sorry, but... maybe then you are just not dedicated enough and it is better if you stay out. I mean this with all due respect, but I don't want people who value the game so less that 13 Dollar is a reason for them not to play. That's just two ordered pizza or 3 beers or what. Just look where you get so much entertainment per month for this price and I assume the answer is: nowhere.

Not really your decision to make .. and it isn't JUST 13 to 15 bucks, You have to pay the $60 price tag,. It is also per month. So you are saying it's JUST over $200 per year. Sorry .. that is a lot to me.

As for dedication? Money has nothing to do with that. As I have said in passed threads, it has to do with WORTH. You also have to assume it's all going to work out. You also have to assume you are not going to be screwed in the end by it going F2P after you spend 100s on it.

Sorry, I don't take such silly risks anymore. It's not worth it in my opinion. I can play an equally fun game for far cheaper.

  Adalwulff

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8/22/13 6:40:40 AM#25
Originally posted by crack_fox
Happy to sub to support a quality MMO, but there is still the question of the cash shop. Choosing to make the game P2P is encouraging. 

Pretty sure there wont be a cash shop.

Somebody on a TESO video said it wasn't in the works, cant remember which video.

  Naowut

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Joined: 1/17/07
Posts: 657

8/22/13 6:43:25 AM#26
Wasn't going to play this game anyway but if anything I am more likely to play it now it has a subscription fee.
  Home15

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Joined: 5/27/05
Posts: 208

8/22/13 6:47:46 AM#27

Dont worry most that are against it are just freeloaders anyway, either to young to work or are on social security.

  Vonatar

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Posts: 607

8/22/13 6:48:20 AM#28
Originally posted by Elevenb4
Originally posted by Wylf
Originally posted by Elevenb4

While I do understand the genre is moving towards F2P, I've always prefered the P2P model, I'm glad it's P2P. In my experience, people that pay a sub for a game are a bit more invested. I know in games that are F2P and have a sub, one of the first questions is always, "are you a sub or a freebie?" It lets you know how is just hanging out, not that serious, and who is actually there to stay for a bit.

I state that based on my experience with the three difference payment models

Agree with Eleenb4, and I believe that those who pay a subscription are:

  • "more invested"
  • "more mature"
  • and frankly a better class of committed player.
I for one am ecstatic that games are  going back to subscription based play.

Nice to see someone sharing my sentiment. I know there are some that will disagree, but this again, this is a personal opinion based on my MMO experiences since EQ1.

+1

 

I am tired of the poor quality game/experience that results from F2P and B2P

  Grixxitt

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8/22/13 8:49:32 AM#29

 

I just want to play good games. 

The payment model isn't something I really consider when it comes to whether a game is good/bad

The above is my personal opinion. Anyone displaying a view contrary to my opinion is obviously WRONG and should STHU. (neener neener)

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  eldaris

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Joined: 6/21/06
Posts: 340

8/22/13 8:53:36 AM#30



 

I am tired of the poor quality game/experience that results from F2P and B2P


Too bad that a lot of p2p games are as bad if not worse than some f2p games.
I voted yes, I will play TESO even if is p2p, the subscription model is not so important to me. The things which interest me more are informations about combat/animations, size of the world, if there is an open world or you get loading screens when change zones, if the armour/weapons will be available for all types of players in same quality, pvp info. The answers to those questions will decide if I play the game or not.F2P didn't make SWTOR more interesting to me.
Anyway I am sure that people who want this game to be f2p will have their chance to play it, with so many choices available right now and the track record of some of the game developers (warhammer could have been a great game) sooner or later the game will relaunch as f2p since I doubt they will be able to recreate wow success.

  hardicon

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Joined: 11/23/10
Posts: 363

8/22/13 9:00:44 AM#31
Payment model would not really bother me.  I don't know if I am going to play this game or not but having to pay a sub fee would not deter me from doing that as long as the game is good with plenty to do at the endgame.  For me I am not sure I would like this game as it is going to be heavily focused on end game pvp but if that was my cup of tea I would not care about a sub fee.  I understand there are some people that just cant afford to pay a small fee to play a game or don't view it as worthwhile for their money but really if you feel that way then go play some Chinese or Korean grinder free to play mmo and don't dish on other games that choose to have a sub fee.
  Greatsword

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Joined: 11/18/05
Posts: 53

8/22/13 9:05:44 AM#32

Now more than ever.

I truly embrace the "return" of subscription models, with all the ridiculous nickle and diming becoming the prevalent business model.

  User Deleted
8/22/13 9:06:15 AM#33
Originally posted by Fion

To be frank, Guild Wars 2 is so good as a B2P game that any future MMOG will have to be absolute Dynamite  for me to even consider paying to play it. I spent years in WoW paying a sub to sit around in  cities waiting on a queue. I'll never do anything like that again and I'll probably never play another P2P MMOG again.

It isn't about the money, it's about the choice. GW2 gives me a AAA game that I can 'choose' to spend money on if I want cosmetic goodies. A P2P game that isn't as good (IMHO few games ever have been as good as GW2) that requires me to pay them to even access? No, never again unless that game is astoundingly good.

So I voted no. From what I have seen the game doesn't look that good but I'd have tried it if it were B2P or F2P. But I'm not paying $60 to demo a mediocre MMOG.

Sitting around waiting on a queue? There are tons of things to do in WoW while waiting for a queue. It sounds like a personal problem to me and not due to a fault in the game.

Oh, that reminds me. I have yard work to do this Saturday. If the grass has dew on it in the morning I'll just sit around and wait for it to dry. Sounds like a plan. 

  User Deleted
8/22/13 9:12:46 AM#34
Originally posted by uidcaustic5
Yes, because I am not poor white trash.

You may want to be careful making statements like this. Your profile says you are from Georgia. Just sayin'

  User Deleted
8/22/13 9:18:59 AM#35
P2P is the only reason I will be playing the game.  And, if I may, the F2p 'Freeloaders" greatly overestimate the power of their vote. $.0.50 a day is not now, nor has ever been, a deal breaker for me.
  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 6411

8/22/13 9:19:13 AM#36

No. Was already lukewarm before, with P2P announcement I will wait for 6 months when it goes F2P or is down to $10 purchase and B2P on the PC.

$60box +$15 per month... not anymore that ship sailed for me a decade ago.

if we are paying $60 upfront give us 4 month play at least, that I might consider.

  User Deleted
8/22/13 9:23:27 AM#37
Originally posted by uidcaustic5
Originally posted by grimgryphon
Originally posted by uidcaustic5
Yes, because I am not poor white trash.

You may want to be careful making statements like this. Your profile says you are from Georgia. Just sayin'

 

Oh right, I have exclusive rights to the handle grimgryphon.  GG, posting someone else's information here.  I just sent him a message letting him know. I'm sure he'll be pleased. 

  Kayo45

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Joined: 7/01/13
Posts: 296

8/22/13 9:25:21 AM#38
If its worth my time, hell yes. Good to know FFXIV, Wildstar and ESO are going P2P. Although honestly, in the case of ESO and especially Wildstar, I may wait it out a bit to make sure. Sick and tired of these MMOs all but abandoning their games and turning them into f2p grabage after we invest in them for months without a tiny bit of consideration to those that paid their bills from he start.

FFXIV is the only one with any real dedication to P2P. Theyre self published and fully developed in house so they can stick to their guns. Not sure about ESO but Wildstar is NCSoft... unless that game sells and keeps over a million, I see it f2p within a year.
  DMKano

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Posts: 6411

8/22/13 9:37:47 AM#39
 
Agree with Eleenb4, and I believe that those who pay a subscription are:
  • "more invested" Yea for the first 3 months before unsubbing
  • "more mature" Highly subjective - IMO it makes very little difference
  • and frankly a better class of committed player. Sorry but this is utter bull
I for one am ecstatic that games are  going back to subscription based play.

 

  Lucioon

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Posts: 840

8/22/13 9:43:50 AM#40
Originally posted by Mr.Kujo

I will see gameplay footage of the released version, review the facts about gemplay mechanics and if I find it suiting my tastes I will get it with whatever payment system it will have.

That is actually very sensible, Its the only logical way to proceed, because its your money, with all the news and coverage you can find online. There is no reason why once a game comes out that you won't be able to decide with a clear mind on whether or not this game is for you. Because by then, regardless of the payment model, you have already made up your mind.

 

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