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8/21/13 9:06:10 AM#101

wildstar -sub






either many of you horraying about this have no concept of finances and paying bills...or are multi millionaires. still living with your parents. i pray for your parents.

i myself will not be playing neither of them-it isnt worth it.- so many great games out there F2p. or better cash shop bundles.

a' sub' dosent make one a better dev. thats the truth.




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8/21/13 9:06:47 AM#102
I'll give it 18 months from release before the F2P model reveal

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"I am not the light, or the darkness, but the twilight in between"

8/21/13 9:10:50 AM#103

This is great news!!!

No crappy item shops, no more nickel and dime bs, I couldn't be happier!!

This will promote a great community, one that plans to stay, not buzz thru the content and then flame the game on every forum on the internet.

This is just awesome!


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8/21/13 9:10:54 AM#104
Originally posted by sunshadow21
Originally posted by Drakephire

Never said it was doomed to fail because of the payment model. It is doomed to fail for other reasons, but payment method isn't the most pressing...

I apologize for the implication that you were saying that than; the point still stands though, as even if you weren't making that argument, threre are a lot of people who are.

And let me say for the record that I have no problems, financially speaking, paying for subscriptions. A few years ago, I had five subscriptions going at once to five different MMOs...SWG, EQ, EVE, WWII Online, and City of Heroes. But I played them all casually...maybe an hour in each one a week. It bothered me that I was subsidizing other players who were playing 40 hours a week (or more).

So I was happy when f2p models appeared because then I could just pay for the content I wanted, and pay for the time I spent in game. Subscription models hinder me from playing multiple MMOs because I'm not dumb enough to pay $75 a month on MMOs these days. It's much more prudent to spend money in the multiple f2p games I play, which may or may not be more than $15 a month, but it is far less than $75.


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8/21/13 9:13:57 AM#105
This just makes the coming F2Ps more attractive, like Archeage, EQN and Black Desert

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8/21/13 9:14:03 AM#106

After my initial reaction that was honestly a bit volatile, I don't even know what to think anymore. I'll just explain why I oppose P2P and I don't intend to stop doing that. Games should REALLY be b2p(not just mmos-GAMES).

Why do I oppose P2P? Well there are two parts: theoretical(the idea behind p2p) and practical(the financial side of p2p). Theoretical side is the fact that I don't have the freedom anymore on my computer because if I am not playing that game, I am wasting money. Also, if I stop playing for whatever reasons, I get below the gear curve and the elitist pricks that most often inhabit pure p2ps start to avoid me and insult me. Therefore, I have NO reason to play that game like ever again. The idea of paying for something that is ABSOLUTELY unnecessary(the sub) just abhors me. As was visible by games such as GW1, GW 2, LoL, DoTA 2, SMITE, TSW(you choose the game),... it is CLEARLY visible that there is NO need for subscriptions. And in today's market where I have F2P games that are VERY good(at least imo-Rift, AoC, Vanguard etc), why would I in nine blazes chain myself to some game? The practical aspect states that it costs 180$/year(240$ in the first one) just to play the game. For that price I can buy at least 3 other games. Not counting any F2Ps, used or otherwise procured games. Also, NOT COUNTING the Steam sale(s). So why would a REASONABLE man pay for one game what it costs for at least three games? No idea!

I am going to require a LOT info on this one to decide. Beta invite(or open beta) is going to be the deciding bit. If I notice ANYTHING that I don't like as a TES fan-SAYONARA mofos!

Whoever thought that this is good idea simply HAS to be from MYTHIC! Such fail ideas are their forte after all. They pissed off the whole fanbase lol. It reminds me of 1.4 WAR xD...

(I hate when MMOs ruin the franchises I LOVE! First it was LoTR, then Conan, then Warhammer Fantasy only to culminate in TES! Can't a man have a GOOD MMO set in the setting he loves? Obv not, seeing how they knocked all the settings I love.)

If this weren't TES game, I'd have rejected it already. This way, I am of open mind. It's the farthest I am going to do. The rest is on ZOS to sell me the game(and the sub)...


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8/21/13 9:15:27 AM#107
Originally posted by Razeekster
I am so happy to hear this. I am getting so sick and tired of nickel and dime cash shops. Guess what this means? NO HAVING TO PAY FOR EXTRA BAG SPACE OR FOR EXTRA HOTBARS (looking at you SWTOR)!

Huh?! Preferred status players has 4 quickbars and 6 characters... on each server.

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8/21/13 9:18:11 AM#108
Originally posted by orbitxo

so many great games out there F2p. or better cash shop bundles.


So many people keep SPAMMING forums EVERYWHERE how many great f2p alternatives there are.

Now I want you show them to me.


Not a single f2p or b2p game is worth my time and never was worth my time in the long run. They are not good games. Thats why they are f2p. And I am not talking about p2w. I am talking about good quality video game.




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8/21/13 9:21:48 AM#109

I support the sub. I'm tired of people expecting to have free to play MMOs.

EDIT: Changed the word people from Peasants


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8/21/13 9:27:37 AM#110
why would I pay 15 a month to play skyrim when I can play skyrim for free?

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8/21/13 9:32:24 AM#111

F2P is better, who cares if you have to pay 5$ to unlock something. It is one time fee.

Then you can jump in and out of the game every few months and dont think about a sub.


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8/21/13 9:38:26 AM#112


When it comes to a game the payment model is about the last goddamn thing I worry about when it comes to the decision of whether I will play it or not.

I do think that with so many F2P options available nowadays, a try-before-you-buy policy should most definitely be established.


SWTOR did so with its open beta, and saved me 60+ dollars in the process. 

The above is my personal opinion. Anyone displaying a view contrary to my opinion is obviously WRONG and should STHU. (neener neener)

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Having fun who cares.

8/21/13 9:38:34 AM#113
Originally posted by Arcona

F2P is better, who cares if you have to pay 5$ to unlock something. It is one time fee.

Then you can jump in and out of the game every few months and dont think about a sub.

Yeah as I posted earlier in this thread, if everything is sub again that's going to suck, atm sub almost feels special or superior model, but if everything is sub again...

Good example is 15 a month who cares, my family is going to playing this game so that 15 is now 75 a month, just thought of this f&ck.

Subs suck again sorry. Subs are great if it’s just me playing I guess, lol


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8/21/13 9:41:18 AM#114
Originally posted by darkedone02
Well this game just committed suicide, this game don't even look good to appear as a P2P title, Watch as this game going to collapse FAST...

Its the "Hero" fate ..


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8/21/13 9:42:21 AM#115

While some F2P models are better than others, I do prefer a P2P model.

Happy to hear that ESO will be subscription-based.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

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8/21/13 9:42:46 AM#116

Does F2P generate more revenue for the company? If it does. Then who are the ones ultimately paying the price? Because everywhere I see folks saying F2P is better they then go on to say they haven't spent a penny in...x months or whatever.

MMOs are a different beast. They're constantly in maintenance. Someone has to pony up for that, no?


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8/21/13 9:46:05 AM#117
Originally posted by strellok
Originally posted by orbitxo

so many great games out there F2p. or better cash shop bundles.


So many people keep SPAMMING forums EVERYWHERE how many great f2p alternatives there are.

Now I want you show them to me.


Not a single f2p or b2p game is worth my time and never was worth my time in the long run. They are not good games. Thats why they are f2p. And I am not talking about p2w. I am talking about good quality video game.



And you are playing what p2p MMOs right now? 


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8/21/13 9:48:08 AM#118

1. Announce subscription payment model.

2. Announce lifetime subscriptions

3. Moneygrab and buy private island


1 year later of declining subs

4. F2P announced with compensation for lifetime subs with cash shop tokens

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8/21/13 9:49:51 AM#119
Thank the Gods!!!

[mod edit]

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8/21/13 9:51:52 AM#120
Originally posted by NBlitz

Does F2P generate more revenue for the company? If it does. Then who are the ones ultimately paying the price? Because everywhere I see folks saying F2P is better they then go on to say they haven't spent a penny in...x months or whatever.

MMOs are a different beast. They're constantly in maintenance. Someone has to pony up for that, no?

That's because you're experiencing confirmation bias. You assume that because one person (or a few) say they don't pay a dime, that everyone who plays doesn't pay.

Well that isn't the case. I for one do buy content in f2p games...mostly the xpacs and rp items.

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