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  jesusjuice69

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8/08/13 1:25:37 AM#21
Originally posted by MondoA2J
Originally posted by jesusjuice69

I am sorry, but are you high? 

The pure sandbox genre has one foot and the grave, and the other on wet grass. 

The best features of the sandbox genre are being incorporated into themepark MMOs, and the rest is being left to rot.

EQNext is the absolute last hope for that genre!  Even still, it is but one game trying to fill that niche market within the MMO community.

It looks interesting, but I don't see people sticking around tbh.

Sandbox games are like real life national forest.  You can do about whatever you want for the most part.

Themepark MMOs are like an amusement park, like Disney land.

A few people enjoy camping, but Disney land gets more traffic in a day, then your average national forest gets in a year.

Riiiiiigghhhtt. Cause themepark MMO's are doing just fine.

The entire MMO genre isn't choking on its own vomit and dying slowly.

Even the mightiest of themeparks your "Disneyland" AKA World of Warcraft is losing subscribers faster then you can count.

I must be high cause no one has reported how the entire genre is in terrible danger due to inflated budgets and locusts mentality of players. You know why themeparks are incorporating sandbox elements? Cause people are realizing how hollow of an experience it is! So yes obviously sandbox genre is a foot from death. Odd that they would pick at the bones like animals trying to get anything they could from it.... hmm....catch the sarcasm? 

Honestly, look at the MMO community and ask any player if they are happy with how things are right now. I bet 70% will say no.

Oh and using your analogy. Disneyland lets you ride what they made. In my sandbox...I made the damn ride, attractions, gift shops and Mickey!

Oh also not once did I utter "Pure sandbox."  Where did you get that from?

Merely was pointing out that Wildstar is WAY more themepark then anything else. If they are not careful due to SHIFTING trends they may fall flat on their face when the gate opens and no one is interested in themeparks anymore.

Again though. I am fan of Wildstar and I am looking forward to this MMO.

If you can't recognize the growing number of unsatisfied players,  the industry shifting and trying not to die a horrible death then maybe your high? :)

 

WoW might be losing more subs than you can count here recently, but that trend will change when the next xpac comes out.   Also, despite losing subs it still has over 15 times more subs than the best sandbox on the market!  And nfinitely more than the second best, because there is no second best.

Thinking that pure sandbox games are on the return is a mere pipe dream!

 

I am referring to a pure sandbox as something like EQnext.  That is a pure sandbox!  It is aiming for the sandbox niche community within the mmo marketplace.  The community has vastly expanded since the days of UO.  The sandbox community is merely a niche within that huge marketplace nowadays.

  keithian

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Joined: 5/20/06
Posts: 2977

8/08/13 2:21:53 AM#22
Originally posted by jesusjuice69
Originally posted by MondoA2J
Originally posted by Zeblade
Wow forgot all about this game. No one talks about it. 

I've noticed this as well and just seems like all the news related to this game is coming out so damn slowly.

Also probably being close to the only last Themepark before the return of the sandbox is probably affecting the hype on this game. They need to get the game together fast before they fall on their faces due to the new generation of MMOs all having sandbox elements.

So far Wildstar only claim to sandbox is housing....kinda.

Still excited about the game though. Looks fun.

I am sorry, but are you high? 

Why are you attacking people that don't agree with you. You just stated in the ESO forums you don't like that.

There Is Always Hope!

  emperorwings

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Joined: 12/25/06
Posts: 1358

8/08/13 2:44:47 AM#23
The phrase "We'll be back soon!" is the first signs of vaporware 

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  Ezbee

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Joined: 5/29/11
Posts: 31

8/08/13 2:48:01 AM#24
Originally posted by emperorwings
The phrase "We'll be back soon!" is the first signs of vaporware 

yep, a developer taking time to develop based off of information gotten in their betas is producing vaporware.

  fiontar

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Joined: 4/07/04
Posts: 3711

8/09/13 3:54:34 PM#25

Very mixed feelings after reading the beta update.

On the plus side, glad to see they are listening to testers and the community and making changes accordingly.

On the minus side, that they needed the community to tell them these things is a bad sign, because these things should have been obvious to any half awake MMO designer in 2013.

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  jesusjuice69

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Joined: 8/07/13
Posts: 293

8/09/13 6:39:24 PM#26
Originally posted by fiontar

Very mixed feelings after reading the beta update.

On the plus side, glad to see they are listening to testers and the community and making changes accordingly.

On the minus side, that they needed the community to tell them these things is a bad sign, because these things should have been obvious to any half awake MMO designer in 2013.

Minor issues dude, very minor.

  azmundai

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Joined: 3/18/10
Posts: 1424

8/09/13 6:41:43 PM#27


Originally posted by Daaken

Originally posted by Zeblade Wow forgot all about this game. No one talks about it. 
I don't know what ESO is in this situation lol.


The Sims with swords?

LFD tools are great for cramming people into content, but quality > quantity.
I am, usually on the sandbox .. more "hardcore" side of things, but I also do just want to have fun. So lighten up already :)

  jesusjuice69

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Joined: 8/07/13
Posts: 293

8/10/13 10:53:02 PM#28
Originally posted by azmundai

 


Originally posted by Daaken

Originally posted by Zeblade Wow forgot all about this game. No one talks about it. 
I don't know what ESO is in this situation lol.

The Sims with swords?

 

Which game is the sims?  ESO?

  Voqar

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Joined: 1/28/04
Posts: 480

8/19/13 12:14:57 PM#29

The biggest problem with beta, IMO, is that I'm not in it.

 

I haven't followed this game that closely thus far but I'm starting to dig into it now since I'm looking for some new MMORPG that isn't just a regurgitated and even more dumbed down entrant in the post WoW clone suckfest.

 

The fact that grouping while leveling is being discussed by a developer to me is effin huge, since that's something sorely lacking from most of the clone MMORPGs that make grouping an optional, occasional, and avoidable side show that has nothing to do with leveling.

 

I also have to say that I love the system that was described here for giving credit on (kill) quests.  It's so amazing sounding that I can't believe it hasn't been done before.  Many games have diverse ways of deailing with tapping or partial credit but it usually involves full kill credit for some degree of contribution (which is weak).  The whole idea of a progress bar based on what you actually do makes so much sense that it's shocking.  (it's somewhat like the heart quest progress thing in GW2, I suppose, but that's a good thing IMO since giving players flexibility in how they complete quests is spiffy)

 

I love to duo or trio while questing but in most modern MMORPGs it's pointless while leveling because content is already stupidly easy when solo.  If content could be done such that grouping isn't pointless, that'd be remarkable (I can't believe how much it pains me to say this in regards to MMORPGs).  If by some shocking miracle there was actually content that was actually suitable for grouping (and not just mowing down solo content even faster in a group) that'd be even more remarkable.  It sounds like from reading this that there is variety in targets for kill quests and that there might actually be mobs that could be suitable for something beyond solo (or at least that if you are grouping for solo content that you need to do a little more to compensate for being that much more overpowered).

 

Good stuff!

 

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