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  Hornytoad

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8/01/13 9:31:32 PM#21
I have the GTX-650 and the latest version driver. No problemos :)
  AlmightyX

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8/01/13 9:40:39 PM#22

I reverted back to 314.22 and still having the problem.

 

I might try an earlier driver later. If it isn't caused by the Nvidia drivers then I have no idea what it is. Pretty much tried everything else.

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  rawfox

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OP  8/02/13 6:52:37 AM#23
Originally posted by Hornytoad
I have the GTX-650 and the latest version driver. No problemos :)

This is somewhat interesting.

Nos Problemos means, no crashes, no hickups, no unexplainable behaviours and ofc no grafic problems.

 

May i ask what other hardware you got in your computer ?

Then it would be interesting, what software you usually use.

Another importand questions would be, if other users with a gtx650 are also free of problems, just to exclude the hardware series change as the driver problem, series 1-5 vs. series 6+.

We look for a pattern and there is another user here with a 800ish card and nos problemos.

As im using a 560 my self and have these driver issues, i consider my card "old".

Can it be, the 6xx+ cards do not have this problem ?

 

 

  rawfox

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OP  8/02/13 6:57:24 AM#24
Originally posted by AlmightyX

I reverted back to 314.22 and still having the problem.

 

I might try an earlier driver later. If it isn't caused by the Nvidia drivers then I have no idea what it is. Pretty much tried everything else.

have you tried another mouse / keyboard ?

could be a broken weire in the cable, the sound is from binding a device into or out of system as you already mentioned ^^.

does it happen, when there is no USB plugged in at all ?

I doubt that those probs are related to grafix driver.

  Asm0deus

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8/02/13 3:24:52 PM#25

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Been using it about 3 - 4 months now and no issues like others have mentioned in this thread. Have driver 320.49 installed.

 

 

 

 

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  kruler

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8/03/13 5:16:03 AM#26
Originally posted by rawfox
Originally posted by AlmightyX

I reverted back to 314.22 and still having the problem.

 

I might try an earlier driver later. If it isn't caused by the Nvidia drivers then I have no idea what it is. Pretty much tried everything else.

have you tried another mouse / keyboard ?

could be a broken weire in the cable, the sound is from binding a device into or out of system as you already mentioned ^^.

does it happen, when there is no USB plugged in at all ?

I doubt that those probs are related to grafix driver.

Intel i7-3930

64 gig of ddr3

Asus GeForce GTX titian

Win 7 professional

OH and the nicest MOBO I have ever built a system on the Asus Sabretooth motherboard.

I have not had a single issue, not one, comp is on at least 7 hours a day, running up to 3 monitors depending on tasks, using AutoCAD, running 3 screens of Eve, Flight simulator using 3 screens as one, smooth as silk.

Only theory I can offer, I built this rig just over a month ago, and as always got the latest BIOS version  for board, could this be a BIOS related issue as not affecting everyone.

Its still a Nvidia driver issue, but only affecting people with certain MOBO's and BIOS versions, similar to the old 800 series issues of about 6 years ago,(bit of a guess, was awhile back and BIOS was issue)

 

There is no God, there is no Devil, nor Angels and Demons, there is only us, surely thats bad enough, for no creature is able to commit such acts of hate and love, sometimes in the same day.

  Cleffy

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8/03/13 5:29:07 AM#27
I have yet to see a major driver issue with an ATI/AMD card since the AMD takeover in 2006. Before than yea, plenty but not after. With NVidia I have seen several major driver and hardware issues. Like the 90C is normal operating temperature issues, and 8k series crap outs.
  AlmightyX

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8/03/13 7:26:37 AM#28

Well the problem has died down significantly since I rolled back the drivers so I assume it has something to do with Nvidia.

I was previously running 2011 bios firmware when I had the issue and now im running the latest from 2012. Didn't seem to make a difference.

If it was a hardware issue like my mouse cable then it would be happening almost constantly.

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  Reizla

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MMORPGs are no longer about the mass multi-user anymore *sadly*

8/03/13 7:32:58 AM#29
Originally posted by rawfox

You have a NVidia grafix card inside your computer ?

Be aware !

If your system has

 

- hickups

- game crashes or freezes or other uncommon issues

- system crashes every 24 or 36 hrs

- has texture errors

- mousecorsor problems by times

- system freezes

- a grafix driver version of 32x.xx.xx (actual is 326.41)

 

then its highly safe to say, you better try the best and most stable 314.22 driver TO FIX IT !

The whole 320 driver series has a really serious problem that could entierely destroy your fun while playing games or using your PC at all.

The symptoms can easy lead to other (fail-)solutions, suspecting hardware or software that is totally innocent and working as it should.

Look here:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/33/

 

Make this information viral and the power users and pro's may help fixing this bitch down, so EVERYONE can enjoy entertainment as it should be.

 

cheers ^^

 

Have had the same issues till 3 days ago when I took a real close look at my system. It's not the nVidia drivers (on my system) that's causing the crashes & BSODs I had but a combination of the Microsoft (late april 2013) update for C++ runtime library 2010  (x64 for my system) and AVG using that runtime library (which it should not).

After removing the C++ runtime library from my system all crashes and BSODs are gone *knocks on wood* and I can play EVERY game without any problem again. One game did install the C++ runtime library 2010 for x86 already and ever since Microsoft wants to install the update for it again (including the bugged one for x64 on my system), but I won't let it...

Please guys, check if this C++ update is bugging on your system as well. It's listed in 'Installed software' instead of the Windows Features. If should stand out in most cases because you most likely have no other installments on the day these libraries have been installed...

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  Horusra

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8/03/13 7:54:34 AM#30
Originally posted by Cleffy
I have yet to see a major driver issue with an ATI/AMD card since the AMD takeover in 2006. Before than yea, plenty but not after. With NVidia I have seen several major driver and hardware issues. Like the 90C is normal operating temperature issues, and 8k series crap outs.

Lucky to be you.  After my 7970 I will never buy AMD again.  Does your website have embedded video...hello green screen and hard restart.  AMD keeps saying they will fix it and never do. 

  sonicbrew

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8/03/13 7:59:17 AM#31
Don't lump "all" into your equation. I have used the latest beta drivers for years with zero issues. Now my ATI cards were a whole other story....

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  Iselin

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8/03/13 8:04:31 AM#32
Originally posted by vmoped
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by vmoped
Originally posted by Ridelynn

Just remember, a lot of people who buy nVidia do so because they have "better drivers".

/rolls eyes

I don't know about other peeps, but I buy Nvidia cards because I have had 8 amd cards over the course of the past 20 years and every one of them was nothing but driver issues and/or died within 12 months.  I have yet to have a single NVidia card ever die on me and never had a driver issue.  This has been with self built and pre-built systems at home and work (cooling is never an issue btw).  I don't update my drivers unless I need to.  This has been my experience with both companies for both desktops and mobile cards.

Cheers!

Which is interesting when you consider that there were no AMD video cards until 2006, and that's if you start counting from the day they announced the purchase of ATI.  AMD-branded video cards haven't even been around for three years.  If you've gone through eight cards that fast, you're doing something wrong.

Yea I know they used to be/are ATI cards.  Everyone always says its the user, so after the first three I only had them in prebuilt systems and still had the same problems (Dell, Gateway, Asus, Cyberware, and HP).  I have built numerous windows and linux based systems for home and at work, always issues with their drivers or chipsets.  No overclocking or tweaking.  As I stated, these have been my personal experiences with their cards.  I hear good stories about them from some, but I have yet to have one.

Cheers!

I have to call BS. I've been building systems for more than 20 years and over that span I've had a variety of Nvidia and ATI cards - whichever had the best one going at the time of purchase. I have never had a single card from either "die" or "have nothing but bad drivers." Your 8 deaths are either iatrogenic or it's just plain BS.

  Ridelynn

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8/03/13 1:15:32 PM#33

Just remember the next time someone posts "Don't get AMD, get nVidia because I have used them for years and had ~0~ problems and had 9 ATI cards die on me"

To link back to this thread.

Not that I'm an AMD fanboy (my last computer had a 660 in it), but it really irks me to hear people spew baseless propaganda when they clearly don't know what they are talking about.

When you go to buy, you need to look at what options are available and what their individual merits are. People that go in with green-tinted glasses often drop the best options off the table before they even start. And it usually starts with people spewing baseless statements like that.

I've probably built over 20 systems as well, with probably a lot more graphics cards than that I can count (my first was a Cirrus Logic ISA card). I've had exactly 3 die on me (in cases which clearly weren't my fault or the fault of some other component causing it to fail)- one was an S3 Virge, one was an nVidia 8800, one was an ATI 9600. And even then I wouldn't place the blame on S3/nV/ATI - the cards were all made by 3rd parties, and it's much more likely that a component on the daughtercard failed other than the GPU.

Most of the time people are blowing through video cards, it's because they have a bad/crap power supply and just keep throwing video card after video card into the same system and wonder why they never work right.

  Ventlus

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8/03/13 1:46:21 PM#34
i have the gtx 780 with the 326.41 beta drivers and i' haven't suffered a crash, bsod, or anything personally 
  Quizzical

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8/03/13 1:57:10 PM#35
Originally posted by Cleffy
I have yet to see a major driver issue with an ATI/AMD card since the AMD takeover in 2006. Before than yea, plenty but not after. With NVidia I have seen several major driver and hardware issues. Like the 90C is normal operating temperature issues, and 8k series crap outs.

About two or three process nodes ago, 90 C was normal load operating temperatures--for both Nvidia and AMD/ATI.  The problem is that Nvidia still let the early GF100 cards run that hot when the newer process node didn't handle those temperature well.

  rawfox

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OP  8/03/13 2:11:49 PM#36

On the watchlist now:

 

- C++ runtime library

- bios

- card generation change 5xx to 6+

 

Thanks for the replys so far.

Im gonna check out how to and if there is a new bios for my gfx card available.

While on that, a Bios upgrade on PC, let see if there is a new one.

 

Mostly suspect is this card generation change, that would mean,  cards up to 5xx are affected, 6xx and higher are not.

The C++ runtime lib is also highly suspect, gimme some days to check all that out.

 

This is a thread to get feedback on your Nvidia cards and possible issues.

I made it, because i really want to enjoy the newest driver, but the crashes nagg me hard, i just want to play :)

Would be awesome if we could find the bugged part here ^^

  Ridelynn

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8/03/13 10:48:25 PM#37


Originally posted by Quizzical

Originally posted by Cleffy I have yet to see a major driver issue with an ATI/AMD card since the AMD takeover in 2006. Before than yea, plenty but not after. With NVidia I have seen several major driver and hardware issues. Like the 90C is normal operating temperature issues, and 8k series crap outs.
About two or three process nodes ago, 90 C was normal load operating temperatures--for both Nvidia and AMD/ATI.  The problem is that Nvidia still let the early GF100 cards run that hot when the newer process node didn't handle those temperature well.

There was a huge problem with the 8600M GPU in particular, it would pretty much melt itself.

http://www.infoworld.com/t/hardware/nvidia-reports-problem-laptop-chips-869
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/04/18/1629235/macbook-owner-with-defective-gpu-beats-apple-in-court

This one was fairly major, it affected a lot of laptops, not just Apple.

That being said, back to drivers; I would say that nVidia drivers for SLI are way superior to AMD's Crossfire, particularly if you are trying to work with 3+ cards, and has been so for a while now - but that's kinda like saying one bowl of crap stinks a bit less than another bowl of crap, because SLI/CF remain very much niche products with limited support all the way around.

And Cleffy was correct; back when ATI was ATI, their driver releases were glacial; on par with what Intel does now. Maybe two releases a year if you were lucky. Since AMD has come into play, and nVidia upped the ante with a monthly release schedule, AMD has been pretty much on par with nVidia for drivers. Both have their wobbles; this thread talks about nVidia's latest, but it's not a huge issue, AMD has had problems with drivers just the same (7970 release*cough*).

I just hate it when people come in raving about nVidia and how they are just so much better (it's almost always nVidia, you almost never see AMD fanboys) - so I just wanted this thread to stick in my mind so I can link back to it whenever I see that blind fanboyism creep up again.

  DawnDark

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8/04/13 12:05:59 AM#38

Apple switches between ATI (I will keep calling them ATI now that they are AMD) and nvidia for every generation of notebooks (they do this to keep the competition going), so I have experienced both.

In OS X it really doesn't matter which brand of graphics card you have, the drivers are solid and pretty much identical since most of it is written by Apple themselves. They are writing the graphics drivers themselves because their complete desktop is extremely depended in a correct and identical functioning OpenGL.

However when I run Windows on these computers (Bootcamp, which is just a brand name for 'dual boot') nvidia is a lot better. The ATI drivers were simply bad, graphical glitches and crashes.

The last time I skipped the ATI generation of Apple notebooks. Now I bought a gaming laptop which I am pretty happy about. So maybe my next Apple notebook will be an ATI again because I only use Windows for gaming, and I will buy a sepperate notebook for gaming.

  Damon

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8/04/13 12:10:01 AM#39

Keep in mind, 320.49 is the latest WHQL driver from NVIDIA. Personally, I have no problems across multiple games while using it. Any drivers you are using above that version are listed as BETA.

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8/04/13 12:17:07 AM#40

I'm running the 320.49 version since its release on my Asus GTX 470 and i haven't experienced any of the problems described here. Everything works fine. 

And as the above poster states, the 320.49 is the latest certified version. 326.19 and 326.41 are listed as BETA. 

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