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News & Features Discussion  » [Column] EverQuest Next: Five Things We Don’t Want in EverQuest Next

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7/30/13 9:56:43 AM#21

Who's "we"

I played EQ for 13 years and instancing delivered the best expansions bar none.

LDON, OOW (Proving grounds trials + pizza instances), DON, DOD.

They were THE best expansions.

Instances are GREAT if you do them right.


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7/30/13 9:57:08 AM#22

i'd much rather have instances than multiple servers.    What i want is instancing and travel done well, not completely ignored for the sake of some ridiculous throwback that stopped being relevant 15 years ago.  Refusing to acknowledge or use modern concepts is how you end up with crap like Vanguard. 


I've no issues with fae either.  What i don't want is financial logic dictating the game's races, some games (vanguard is another example) wanted all the races to be based off the same base model so that it's easier and cheaper to make armor.  This resulted in all races looking the same and made little sense.  i really want a diversity of races, with unique models, body types and animations.  (and they better include ratonga!)


I agree with 3 and 1 though.   Story in an MMO should center on the world, not on each character.  You can still have an amazing story even if every single one of us is not it's main hero, but just helping.  


Honestly, just give me LoTRO's vast and interesting world, SWG's brilliantly integrated non-combat systems, EQ2's endgame and ratonga and i'll be a happy camper. 

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7/30/13 9:58:10 AM#23
Good list, and ditto on liking the fae. I m a human hater in MMOs.

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7/30/13 10:01:16 AM#24
Originally posted by logan400k

Here is my issue with story and "creating our own" - you won't be a farmer. EQ is not a farmer game, it is not and has not been about crops. Now if they were to add in elements of SWG and a player economy then I could see that happening. 

You mean if they could add elements of their most successful sand box game to their "next" sandbox game?  I don't think that requires a great leap in faith.

I have to agree the fae are lame. EQ1 races plus Kobolds and Ratonga would be good for me.

I know it's going to have things that I don't want to see (a ton of crafting drops and then, astonishingly, $8 large inventory bags for carrying your crafting drops in the store). I'd like a seamless world with occasional instanced content for groups and raids, but the better gear and drops would be from "contested" areas.  PVE competition was a cool thing.

And like the vast majority of fantasy online players, I don't want to see FFA PVP.  If you let other people ruin my gameplay, I am not going to play your game.


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7/30/13 10:09:31 AM#25

Next time, call your article "What I don't want in <insert game name>" instead of "What we don't want".

And then open a discussion: "And what do you not want in <insert game name>".

That "we" is just arrogant.

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7/30/13 10:14:19 AM#26

Pretty good list...

I dont have a huge issue with Fae but i could lvie without them hahaha..

My 3D models


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7/30/13 10:17:56 AM#27

100% agree!

No Instances!

No tiny world!

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7/30/13 10:20:28 AM#28
agree with that list, we don't want any of that and also no dumbing down please

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7/30/13 10:29:13 AM#29

Reason #1 Nailed it, and you nailed it hard. You nailed it so hard you should make an adult movie about it.




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7/30/13 10:30:05 AM#30

I'd add "no absolutely horrible character models / faces."

EQ2 had and still has IMO the absolutely most hideous player models in existence.

I've probably been lurking for way, way too long.


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7/30/13 10:30:59 AM#31
I want a game with more choices, not fewer.  All races and classes should be in at this point.  I don't mind zones as much as I mind instances.  Limited use of instancing is fine, but few games ever keep it limited.  Like a previous poster stated, I want 60% sandbox and 40% themepark.  When I'm in the mood, I will make my own story and when I'm in the mood, I want a nicely written professional story.  Make the world open ended and you won't be forced to do one or the other, which means you have to allow progression for both play styles if you are going to cater to them at all.


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7/30/13 10:31:11 AM#32
Dang, i do agree on the Fae.. So non epic, partying with a Fae that uses a mini 2 handed sword and does more damage then my huge axe wielding barbarian

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7/30/13 10:31:35 AM#33
Also no FFA PvP of any kind please. PvPers turn community into shite in no time.

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7/30/13 10:32:22 AM#34
Good list I'd add ffa pvp and consentual pvp servers.

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7/30/13 10:33:20 AM#35

I disagree on the story part, its better to have linear stories then no stories at all...

Story and lore are the reason that i am an explorer in the first place, and epic quests are still the most fun way to tell those stories.

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)


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7/30/13 10:35:13 AM#36
No rat people or frogs and vanity pets please!

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7/30/13 10:38:46 AM#37

Instead of the Fae part, you probably should have put something along the lines of boring crafting, maybe something in reference to a combat style, etc. 


I know personally I would prefer the game be skill based with no classes. I might be okay if they took a different approach to classes, like made a class into some sort of guild you could join after reaching a certain level in some skills. Maybe even make it a title for players to receive after a certain skill level is reached, or just make AA skills based in different "class" roles. On that note, I'd actually be perfectly fine if I have to choose a class, but in AA I'm able to gain some skills in from other classes. ( I doubt this will happen, it's just something I'd like to see.)

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7/30/13 10:41:09 AM#38
Fae and Ratonga. Stupidest races I've ever played in an MMO. Except maybe those badgers from Tera...

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7/30/13 10:43:07 AM#39
Fae suck

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7/30/13 10:43:16 AM#40

I agree with the whole list, i think some people are confusing zones with instances.

No instanced dungeons or instancing zones just separate servers and every body on that server sharing that persistent world with you. This allows everyone to get to know all the people on your server and to forge proper alliances with guilds.

You knew who was who on your own server in EQ.

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