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  angelknight4

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Joined: 9/01/10
Posts: 113

 
OP  7/29/13 1:58:07 PM#21
Originally posted by park97
Originally posted by Sukiyaki

Welcome to every Chinese F2P MMO ever.

New server is a typicial business practise in Chinese MMOs to keep old player occupied with a reroll and attract new player to try the game from "start", because on old server they can rarely or only with much effort catch up with other player and/or the beginning part of the game became too desolate.

One month 5 server are opened, the next month 5 others are closed and the following month 5 new ones are opened up and so on, while not even half are filled. Thats pretty common occurence in Chinese MMOs.

Sorry to burst your bubble, this is the best MMO in the market, they don't have to do those cheap tricks to attract players. I don't know where you get the idea of this opening new servers and closing old servers, too much crack?

This is the best MMO in the market, millions of dollars pumped in into the continuation of the R&D of this game, this game will only get better and better. It's a smart move for snail USA to open a new server.

 

Except you missed 8 months of using cheap tricks to attract players.

Recycle news to keep their news at the top. Create new server now while current servers has so low population. Recycle events each month with new name, granted this July there are some truly new events, but some of them actually recycle for months already.

How is this game the best MMO? Every MMO games said they are the best, but then again they also have low population and some of them are not even managed to get out of beta stage.

And I agree that new servers is a smart MARKETING move, but again it serves nothing to help the current players or low server population.

  park97

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Joined: 9/22/09
Posts: 105

7/29/13 2:15:15 PM#22
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by park97
Originally posted by Sukiyaki

Welcome to every Chinese F2P MMO ever.

New server is a typicial business practise in Chinese MMOs to keep old player occupied with a reroll and attract new player to try the game from "start", because on old server they can rarely or only with much effort catch up with other player and/or the beginning part of the game became too desolate.

One month 5 server are opened, the next month 5 others are closed and the following month 5 new ones are opened up and so on, while not even half are filled. Thats pretty common occurence in Chinese MMOs.

Sorry to burst your bubble, this is the best MMO in the market, they don't have to do those cheap tricks to attract players. I don't know where you get the idea of this opening new servers and closing old servers, too much crack?

This is the best MMO in the market, millions of dollars pumped in into the continuation of the R&D of this game, this game will only get better and better. It's a smart move for snail USA to open a new server.

 

Except you missed 8 months of using cheap tricks to attract players.

Recycle news to keep their news at the top. Create new server now while current servers has so low population. Recycle events each month with new name, granted this July there are some truly new events, but some of them actually recycle for months already.

How is this game the best MMO? Every MMO games said they are the best, but then again they also have low population and some of them are not even managed to get out of beta stage.

And I agree that new servers is a smart MARKETING move, but again it serves nothing to help the current players or low server population.

It's a summer time, people who work are on vacation, students are away from school. Even I play less during the summer time. Wait til September, you will see more and more players returning...

  angelknight4

Novice Member

Joined: 9/01/10
Posts: 113

 
OP  7/29/13 3:13:25 PM#23
Originally posted by park97
It's a summer time, people who work are on vacation, students are away from school. Even I play less during the summer time. Wait til September, you will see more and more players returning...

I see what you are playing, so I'll play with you.

So, you are telling me people come back when there are school and they start to get busy with real life problem?

Oh, great logic there. When in summer, players have the most amount of time, but I guess they are just so busy playing in the Sun. I guess they will come back in September with their busy schedule and stay more indoor to play with games, right?

I forgot, lots of people take vacations for playing games and relax at home, but that doesn't occur to you that way as well.

  park97

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Joined: 9/22/09
Posts: 105

7/29/13 4:31:35 PM#24
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by park97
It's a summer time, people who work are on vacation, students are away from school. Even I play less during the summer time. Wait til September, you will see more and more players returning...

I see what you are playing, so I'll play with you.

So, you are telling me people come back when there are school and they start to get busy with real life problem?

Oh, great logic there. When in summer, players have the most amount of time, but I guess they are just so busy playing in the Sun. I guess they will come back in September with their busy schedule and stay more indoor to play with games, right?

I forgot, lots of people take vacations for playing games and relax at home, but that doesn't occur to you that way as well.

couple of my in game friends are traveling this summer, my cousin who study in university also playing this game, but he has to work entire summer in order to pay his tuition feel, recently he got a 3 months contract job in Alaska. Just  Imagine number of players in similar situations. Get it?

  angelknight4

Novice Member

Joined: 9/01/10
Posts: 113

 
OP  7/29/13 5:18:52 PM#25
Originally posted by park97
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by park97
It's a summer time, people who work are on vacation, students are away from school. Even I play less during the summer time. Wait til September, you will see more and more players returning...

I see what you are playing, so I'll play with you.

So, you are telling me people come back when there are school and they start to get busy with real life problem?

Oh, great logic there. When in summer, players have the most amount of time, but I guess they are just so busy playing in the Sun. I guess they will come back in September with their busy schedule and stay more indoor to play with games, right?

I forgot, lots of people take vacations for playing games and relax at home, but that doesn't occur to you that way as well.

couple of my in game friends are traveling this summer, my cousin who study in university also playing this game, but he has to work entire summer in order to pay his tuition feel, recently he got a 3 months contract job in Alaska. Just  Imagine number of players in similar situations. Get it?

Ahh yes, because using such a small sampling is so accurate, right?

I mean let's forget the majority of players age, their amount of play time and what season they have the most amount of time to spend on games.

LOL, sorry, I could use an entire college where my cousin attend to or the high school next to my house and my sampling already several hundreds of times bigger than yours.

The moment you said Summer will have least amount of players, I already chuckle at your reasoning and logic behind that.

  Panther2103

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/09/08
Posts: 2072

7/29/13 5:26:26 PM#26
This could be to get more people to transfer over to a new server in hopes for a complete balance in the beginning. It happens in a lot of MMORPG games, they constantly roll out new servers and quite a bit of people go over to the new server, then they roll out a new one, constantly getting cash flow from people willing to buy stuff for the cash shop on each new character. I think at one point rf online had maybe 150 people online and the next day they opened a new server, and a majority of those players went over there. I'm almost positive it's just them trying to get more money out of people but at the same time who knows, maybe this expansion will bring a lot of new players and the servers will be full again even though that is somewhat doubtful.
  park97

Novice Member

Joined: 9/22/09
Posts: 105

7/29/13 9:31:51 PM#27
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by park97
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by park97
It's a summer time, people who work are on vacation, students are away from school. Even I play less during the summer time. Wait til September, you will see more and more players returning...

I see what you are playing, so I'll play with you.

So, you are telling me people come back when there are school and they start to get busy with real life problem?

Oh, great logic there. When in summer, players have the most amount of time, but I guess they are just so busy playing in the Sun. I guess they will come back in September with their busy schedule and stay more indoor to play with games, right?

I forgot, lots of people take vacations for playing games and relax at home, but that doesn't occur to you that way as well.

couple of my in game friends are traveling this summer, my cousin who study in university also playing this game, but he has to work entire summer in order to pay his tuition feel, recently he got a 3 months contract job in Alaska. Just  Imagine number of players in similar situations. Get it?

Ahh yes, because using such a small sampling is so accurate, right?

I mean let's forget the majority of players age, their amount of play time and what season they have the most amount of time to spend on games.

LOL, sorry, I could use an entire college where my cousin attend to or the high school next to my house and my sampling already several hundreds of times bigger than yours.

The moment you said Summer will have least amount of players, I already chuckle at your reasoning and logic behind that.

You still don't get it do you? Please do me a favor scroll up and read my comment again. I never stated that summer will have least amount of players. I simply stated that by end of the summer there will be more active players. Maybe I should have stated clearly, there are many reasons that AOW population been dropping, one of the reasons is it's summer time. Does that help?

Even my sampling is small, that gives at least a few hundred even a thousand returning from their summer activities. I'm not sure which part of U.S you are from, but I'm from Canada, up north, we only got 3 months of summer, there is no way we gona spend more time indoor than outdoors.

Don't chuckle too much end up choking yourself.

  angelknight4

Novice Member

Joined: 9/01/10
Posts: 113

 
OP  7/29/13 9:55:02 PM#28
Originally posted by park97

You still don't get it do you? Please do me a favor scroll up and read my comment again. I never stated that summer will have least amount of players. I simply stated that by end of the summer there will be more active players. Maybe I should have stated clearly, there are many reasons that AOW population been dropping, one of the reasons is it's summer time. Does that help?

Even my sampling is small, that gives at least a few hundred even a thousand returning from their summer activities. I'm not sure which part of U.S you are from, but I'm from Canada, up north, we only got 3 months of summer, there is no way we gona spend more time indoor than outdoors.

Don't chuckle too much end up choking yourself.

This is getting annoying and I won't choke, you should worry more about choking yourself.

Summers is where most people have the most free time, but I am not going to discuss this anymore since you failed at common sense to even know about this.

Your sampling is non-sense to begin with, you don't care for common sense and you only use some people around you and in a specific age range, which only a small minority of players. You keep claiming that they will stay outdoors and away from games, but that's not the case for majority of players and far from reality.

Apparently, you failed to even understand why people left AoW to begin with. It's not "summer", it's the incompetent of SnailUSA to deal with bots, hacking and horrible customer services. People have been leaving this game slowly for the past 3 months, not just suddenly do that near "summer time".

The game comes out for 8 months, there are enough examples and reasons to show why people left this game to begin with and SnailUSA shifted most their staffs to another game to make the situation even worse.

However, you are not interested in that and you didn't back up your claim on how this game is "One of the best MMO" out there. Only lips service so far without anything to back up or any details whatsoever.

 

Edit: Let's not forget Age of Wulin, people move there for better pings, or hope to get better support. Those again WON'T COME BACK after "summer".

  aspekx

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Joined: 12/24/05
Posts: 2197

7/30/13 3:04:39 PM#29
Originally posted by angelknight4

so enough people take actions to force the company to change.

you don't pay much attention to world events and how the Chinese seem to culturally view authority, do you?

"There are at least two kinds of games.
One could be called finite, the other infinite.
A finite game is played for the purpose of winning,
an infinite game for the purpose of continuing play."
Finite and Infinite Games, James Carse

  angelknight4

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Joined: 9/01/10
Posts: 113

 
OP  8/07/13 12:37:45 AM#30
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by park97
Originally posted by Sukiyaki

Welcome to every Chinese F2P MMO ever.

New server is a typicial business practise in Chinese MMOs to keep old player occupied with a reroll and attract new player to try the game from "start", because on old server they can rarely or only with much effort catch up with other player and/or the beginning part of the game became too desolate.

One month 5 server are opened, the next month 5 others are closed and the following month 5 new ones are opened up and so on, while not even half are filled. Thats pretty common occurence in Chinese MMOs.

Sorry to burst your bubble, this is the best MMO in the market, they don't have to do those cheap tricks to attract players. I don't know where you get the idea of this opening new servers and closing old servers, too much crack?

This is the best MMO in the market, millions of dollars pumped in into the continuation of the R&D of this game, this game will only get better and better. It's a smart move for snail USA to open a new server.

 

Except you missed 8 months of using cheap tricks to attract players.

What does this mean? What the hell are you talking about?

Recycle news to keep their news at the top. Create new server now while current servers has so low population. Recycle events each month with new name, granted this July there are some truly new events, but some of them actually recycle for months already.

Again, what the hell are you talking about? In the same sentence you say recycle, the nsay granted there are new. wth? Old news to stay on top of where? Geez

How is this game the best MMO? Every MMO games said they are the best, but then again they also have low population and some of them are not even managed to get out of beta stage.

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China??

And I agree that new servers is a smart MARKETING move, but again it serves nothing to help the current players or low server population.

Low because you say so? I say they are high.

Isn't there some type of forum rule against type of stuff?

[mod edit]

By the way, you can say server is high all you want, no rules against that, but reality is server is all time low as in this post:

http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14084

Clearly it shows server population gone down so much, but hey, you can say it's high if you want.

Or the comment about server merge here:

http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14076

 

[mod edit].

  Deitylight

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Joined: 3/16/12
Posts: 102

8/07/13 2:18:45 AM#31
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by park97
Originally posted by Sukiyaki

Welcome to every Chinese F2P MMO ever.

New server is a typicial business practise in Chinese MMOs to keep old player occupied with a reroll and attract new player to try the game from "start", because on old server they can rarely or only with much effort catch up with other player and/or the beginning part of the game became too desolate.

One month 5 server are opened, the next month 5 others are closed and the following month 5 new ones are opened up and so on, while not even half are filled. Thats pretty common occurence in Chinese MMOs.

Sorry to burst your bubble, this is the best MMO in the market, they don't have to do those cheap tricks to attract players. I don't know where you get the idea of this opening new servers and closing old servers, too much crack?

This is the best MMO in the market, millions of dollars pumped in into the continuation of the R&D of this game, this game will only get better and better. It's a smart move for snail USA to open a new server.

 

Except you missed 8 months of using cheap tricks to attract players.

What does this mean? What the hell are you talking about?

Recycle news to keep their news at the top. Create new server now while current servers has so low population. Recycle events each month with new name, granted this July there are some truly new events, but some of them actually recycle for months already.

Again, what the hell are you talking about? In the same sentence you say recycle, the nsay granted there are new. wth? Old news to stay on top of where? Geez

How is this game the best MMO? Every MMO games said they are the best, but then again they also have low population and some of them are not even managed to get out of beta stage.

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China??

And I agree that new servers is a smart MARKETING move, but again it serves nothing to help the current players or low server population.

Low because you say so? I say they are high.

Isn't there some type of forum rule against type of stuff?

Sadly there are no rules against lying to promote or advertise the game. You can lie, spread rumors and misleading information for as long as you like.

However, as soon as you post facts about the state of the game and if it is "TOO NEGATIVE", you will get ban.

 

By the way, you can say server is high all you want, no rules against that, but reality is server is all time low as in this post:

http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14084

Clearly it shows server population gone down so much, but hey, you can say it's high if you want.

Or the comment about server merge here:

http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14076

 

It seems my post again is "TOO NEGATIVE", I may get ban.

Looks like they wised up and are going to merge servers in the mere future.

Still why the hell open a new server!?

 

  angelknight4

Novice Member

Joined: 9/01/10
Posts: 113

 
OP  8/07/13 3:18:22 AM#32
Originally posted by Deitylight
Looks like they wised up and are going to merge servers in the mere future.
Still why the hell open a new server!

This happens a lot in CN servers. They open a bunch of new servers to get people to rush in there to spend money, this is normal in F2P games to get people to join with bandwagon mentality.

Then after a while, all those new servers will have less and less players to the almost empty in some cases, then they merge them together and then open new servers with new big updates.

Repeat that over and over, it's normal procedure in CN, so they just repeat that here. Also, that is the only way they can compete with Age of Wulin with recently OBT.

  tayev

Novice Member

Joined: 8/02/13
Posts: 8

8/07/13 11:37:18 AM#33
Im a new player 2 weeks new. The big towns are empty. But there are still new pkayera joining all the time.

I think new server is good. Gives me a chance to expriwnce the game with out max level killing me.

Alot of people I know are going to creeate a toon on the new server too.

This is a way to merge server and make money for the company.
  angelknight4

Novice Member

Joined: 9/01/10
Posts: 113

 
OP  8/07/13 1:52:04 PM#34
Originally posted by tayev
Im a new player 2 weeks new. The big towns are empty. But there are still new pkayera joining all the time.

I think new server is good. Gives me a chance to expriwnce the game with out max level killing me.

Alot of people I know are going to creeate a toon on the new server too.

This is a way to merge server and make money for the company.

This is the reason why new players join new servers, I can fully understand that.

However, this game is not a game where you have new servers every big updates. This is due to the sheer amount of time require to level up your skills and internal.

I have waited almost 9 months for 4th skill set and many skills from CN servers. I sometimes wish I stay on CN servers because it is more fun simply with more players and skills are dirt cheap there.

It is required players time to level internals and then go farm instances for materials, then make equipment with it. The new servers would require a long long time for this, during this time, the economic will be really unstable with everything so expensive.

 

Anyway, to sum it up, other games, it is good idea to play on new servers since you can easily get everything within a month or so, but not with this game where you require at least 4+ months and everything is based solely on the rest of the population.

Furthermore, there are cap everywhere that limit your ability to level or farm, it is based entirely on TIME PROGRESSION, so it will take the same time to get there regardless how much effort or time you put in.Then that's not even mentioned soft-cap put in place by the company to prevent P2W elements.

  Opapanax

Novice Member

Joined: 10/29/11
Posts: 983

Most Morbid One

8/07/13 2:43:45 PM#35

Still keeping an eye on the game in hopes of some miraculous turn around in practice, but it seems less and less likely that this turn around is going to happen.

Adding a new server has benefits normally that kind of outweigh the bad. New expansion being in and "more" fixes to the game but the exploits and hacks are just as free as they were some months ago by my understanding so starting a new server becomes moot once all the botters and exploiters join in on the newer server.

Not much more to see before I completely wipe this game off my radar. I refuse to touch it again until I see some drastic changes in their (Snail Games USA) work ethic.

PM before you report at least or you could just block.

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