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  DawnDark

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Joined: 8/07/12
Posts: 21

7/17/13 12:45:25 AM#21

He is not doing anything better than an organised group of normal players can do. In fact he is doing worse.

Play EVE to see how multiboxers are actually at a disadvantage, but that is because PvP there actually uses group tactics. Instead of the free for all egocentric PvP in RIFT.

  Atrocitus

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7/17/13 12:45:57 AM#22

I'm ambivalent about multiboxing.....but, the person your refering to in the forums has a horrible attitude, and many dislike her.

 

She needs to be reprimanded 

  tristanryan

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Joined: 6/24/11
Posts: 241

 
OP  7/17/13 12:47:53 AM#23
Originally posted by Murugan

$220 in barely a month since they added the cash shop for a game you have played since launch?

 

Ouch, maybe it isn't such a bad thing you got banned who knows where this addiction to virtual pixels could have taken you.  I'd be careful who you tell that to or you might be getting an intervention thrown your way by concerned people who simply care for you and who don't understand such behavior over a video game.

 

I wasnt banned from the game, only the forums.

 

Where i choose to spend spare cash isn't the point of the conversation either. This doesn't even compare to what i spend on other hobbies.

 

edit;

I also haven't played rift since launch. I played a few months at launch, a few times since, and the last 2 months if it matters.

  Masterfuzzfuzz

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Joined: 6/30/13
Posts: 176

7/17/13 12:49:23 AM#24
Lol i've seen this guy. Honestly, it's absolutely hilarious. I aint even mad
  Waterlily

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Joined: 5/26/08
Posts: 2892

7/17/13 12:50:05 AM#25

Almost all multiboxers use INNERSPACE and ISBOXER, which allows them to send commands from one instance to the next without swtiching.

Innerspace and ISBoxer is made by Lavish software. Lavish software are hackers, they created macroquest which allowed people to hack in Everquest for over a decade. 

They try to hide this fact now, but MQ, or Macroquest was made by them.

  Lord.Bachus

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7/17/13 12:55:13 AM#26

Seems like a serious problem to me..

 

However in general people do not get banned because of what they say, but how they say it...

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  tristanryan

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Joined: 6/24/11
Posts: 241

 
OP  7/17/13 1:02:51 AM#27
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Seems like a serious problem to me..

However in general people do not get banned because of what they say, but how they say it...

 

And this is particularly why it pissed me off. I log on to find my post deleted with a warning on my account. I then simply stated i think the community can agree we need a new ambassador that is for the community and not for personal gain. 27 minutes later i was banned from the forums.

  Lord.Bachus

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7/17/13 1:07:56 AM#28
Originally posted by tristanryan
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Seems like a serious problem to me..

However in general people do not get banned because of what they say, but how they say it...

 

And this is particularly why it pissed me off. I log on to find my post deleted with a warning on my account. I then simply stated i think the community can agree we need a new ambassador that is for the community and not for personal gain. 27 minutes later i was banned from the forums.

Well to outsiders it might look like you turned your anger in a personal attack against that ambassador.  Not saying you meant to, but just saying how other people might have felt about it.

 

Anyway, wether your banned or not, does not solve the problem in the video as that clearly excists and should not be possible in any game.

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  jonesing22

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Joined: 9/01/10
Posts: 705

7/17/13 1:11:46 AM#29

Hmmm, yeah Multiboxing is one thing. Like if you're running 3 different characters in a game that is slow paced like old EQ, it's doable. What 3rd party BS  that guy is using is obviously against almost every TOS. By pressing 1 key it makes all those characters do something, otherwise this guy has like 5 hands. There are macros in RIFT, I think, but none to control multiple characters. 

I agree though, why pay more to play a mmorpg by yourself? Never made sense to me.

  Sinaku

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Joined: 1/06/07
Posts: 465

7/17/13 1:14:25 AM#30

While I initially opened this thread with the mindset "oh another troll who got killed in pvp" I was surprised to find such a valid article.

I am totally against multi-boxing because like others have stated, why would you play an MMO by yourself? I think this is economy breaking and gives too much of an edge specially in pvp based situations.While I have never experienced this first hand in PvP, I have in PvE and it is extremely disappointing to know that even reporting that person is a waste of time. Someone multi-boxing in PvP could completely turn a "battle ground" in that teams favor because team work is really all that is required in these types of games.

On another note you brought up, I see so much racial/sexual talk in games like WoW and Tera (who has one of the worst general chats I have ever seen, but all in all a game I really enjoy). It is weird how trolling has become the norm instead of the occasional jerk that we can all ignore. Everyone is a troll know and communities are suffering from this.

Anyway, I don't think it was right for you to get banned from the forums for simply stating what I would consider an opinion that wasn't aggressive or provoking. Sorry to hear that what I had assumed was a great company is no better than EA/Blizz/Activision

  Waterlily

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Posts: 2892

7/17/13 1:16:22 AM#31

In that video of the OP, at a certain point his box goes down and you can see his background...he's using ISBoxer, which is a hack tool that taps into the game and sends commands to different instances of the game.

He's a hacker, not just a multiboxer.

  Mothanos

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Joined: 10/20/10
Posts: 1853

7/17/13 1:27:49 AM#32

Isboxer a hack tool ?
its a tool that allows you to setup multiple accounts for games dude.
Its alowed and fine in all mmo's where multi boxing is alowed.
You pay 5 dollar a month to use that, and its mostly used to Eve Online / WoW and offcourse them Free to Play games where it doesnt cost 1 cent to make mutiple accounts.


But please dont call it a hack tool its a multibox software program.

  Waterlily

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Posts: 2892

7/17/13 1:34:29 AM#33
Originally posted by Mothanos

Isboxer a hack tool ?
its a tool that allows you to setup multiple accounts for games dude.
Its alowed and fine in all mmo's where multi boxing is alowed.

right..I'm sure it is....using ISboxer instabans you  if the game uses gameguard and hackshield, it crashes the game

there are always people who QQ in those games for getting bans

And ISboxer IS a hack tool, since it taps into the games to allow you to send different commands to different game instances.

Also, Lavish software are the people behind Macroquest...which is a known hack program for EQ and EQ2.

Macroquest allowed people to one-shot raid bosses and warp accross zones

  Master.Ryu

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Joined: 12/13/12
Posts: 55

7/17/13 1:42:19 AM#34

I've been playing RIFT for quite some time lately, but hearing about this just ruins it for me. I sure hope they change this garbage. 

 

I don't mind someone multi-logging, but having five characters played from one keyboard and mouse is pathetic.

  tristanryan

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Joined: 6/24/11
Posts: 241

 
OP  7/17/13 1:47:26 AM#35
Originally posted by Master.Ryu

I've been playing RIFT for quite some time lately, but hearing about this just ruins it for me. I sure hope they change this garbage. 

 

I don't mind someone multi-logging, but having five characters played from one keyboard and mouse is pathetic.

 

How about 10?

 

 

And yes, i agree. It angers me more that as soon as someone replies to the "complaint" post on the official forum that can construct a cohesive arguement gets banned. It really, really, really makes me mad. It almost makes me want to divulge other important yet pathetic details about Rift, but im still pondering on how much i want to say.

  tristanryan

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Joined: 6/24/11
Posts: 241

 
OP  7/17/13 1:51:08 AM#36

And like it or not, Waterlilly is absolutely correct.

 

 

Edited to take out additional info because apparently i can be offensive when not knowing so and id rather not get my thread locked and/or deleted and/or banned with a link to a "rules of conduct" page that doesn't even exist, as i did on Rift official forums.

  Mothanos

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Posts: 1853

7/17/13 2:32:01 AM#37

Uhm ISboxer can be used normaly in most mmo's and games buddy.
Its alowed in WoW and Eve Online and some other AAA mmo's, maybe not in games with Gamegaurd, but thats the most shit hack prevention tool in the history of gaming.

You think Blizzard and CCP woulnt ban you for using hacks ?
Check some forums and read what is does....

Its a program that lets you send keystrokes to multiple accounts at the same time instead uf using 5 mouses and keyboards.
You setup your hotkeys like you would in any normal mmo and ISboxer will send that command from 1 mouse and keyboard.

You think its lame or hacking, i think its not.
But to say its a hacking tool is a little stretched m8.

In Eve its kinda normal to multibox as most people i know have 3 to 8 accounts.
Itsa nightmare in Eve to target Enemy npc's or players, after you have setup ISboxer life becmes much more easier to farm some isk.

I will say that its kinda lame in PVP mmo's like WoW and Rift, but for PVE i see eno harm other then people being upset they can farm faster and do more things solo.
I woulnt mind this tool disabled for PVP purpose.

But do not say its a Hacking tool as that shit is way diffrent then a simple tool that makes life easier.
A hacking tool tabs into the game and makes your aim 100% or disable the global cooldown or whatever shit hackers do.
Aimbots
Speedbots
farmbots
automated scripts
macro abuse
that stuff i consider hacking

As long as CCP and Blizzard have no problem with this stuff you can bet its not a hacking tool :)

  tristanryan

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Joined: 6/24/11
Posts: 241

 
OP  7/19/13 6:38:58 AM#38

ISboxer is not used in most mmo's lol. Only by people that like to undermine gameplay and risk their account(s).

 

Multiboxing =/= ghost programs.

  Betaguy

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7/19/13 6:43:20 AM#39
Originally posted by tristanryan
Originally posted by Purutzil
You realize games like WoW have allowed this for years and years now right? Its not remotely prohibited by any real games that I know. There is a difference between exploiting and multi-boxing.

 

Watch the video.

 

 

 

 

It requires 3rd party software, which is against the TOS. (3rd party software is also against the TOS in World of Warcraft). The difference here.. Blizzard doesnt ban multiboxers because WoW is a subscription based game on its last leg. Rift is F2P and there is absolutely zero reason to allow this filth.

Third party software that allows you to be away from the keyboard and still do tasks unattended would fit the TOS.  If he is at the keyboard and pressing keys it is fine..... sorry buttercup.

  DMKano

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Posts: 5433

7/19/13 7:46:07 AM#40

OP - Isboxer is not a hack tool, it is not against the TOS afaik, yes it is cheesy in PvP *BUT* a well organized group will WTFPWN a multi boxer every time.

I multi box EQ1, been doing it for years, I find it very fun, but I don't use isboxer or any other tool to coordinate attacks, frankly I don't need it.

bottom line - this is not exploiting, you can petition Trion to change their rules, that's your best bet.

Starting threads with inflamatory titles on MMORPG will not help your cause.

 

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