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General Discussion  » Does anyone have sub numbers for Age of Wushu/Wulin or number of active players?

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  bcbully

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7/16/13 1:37:47 PM#21
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by ozmono
Originally posted by SirFubar

Like others are saying, its hard to gauge numbers in F2P MMO since they never release real information on active players. AoW is no different, I couldn't find the numbers worldwide but in China, it's over 10 million registered users. Source

10 million registered users is nothing for a F2P MMO. I'm also pretty sure the numbers didn't get that much higher when it was released in NA and EU. Even WoW have easily 2 or 3 time this number and it's not even a F2P. WoW are around 8.3 million active subs ATM. Source

So don't listen to the AoW fanboy who said that AoW had more players than WoW and that Snail Games could make more money with their Jet-Li movie than Blizzard could with a WoW movie lol.

Thanks.

http://eon.businesswire.com/news/eon/20120606006747/en/Age-of-Wulin/martial-arts/beta

20 million listed here. I've seen something where SnailGames said 15 million. 

 

edit - here is another  http://finance.boston.com/boston/news/read/21514469/snail_games%E2%80%99_item_sales_opening_day_of_open_beta

Like other f2p games you know those don't mean they have that number of players actively playing.

Wushu is sub with a free to play option.

  Loktofeit

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7/16/13 1:55:03 PM#22
Originally posted by angelknight4

Oh, let's not forget Red Phoenix server, the Shredded Beef recipe for RG 3rd inner still a hot topic and it has been weeks since the problem occur, all those complaint, tickets are getting nowhere at all.

While I don't question the gravity of the issue, to those of us not versed in AoW gameplay, that reads rather humorously.

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  bcbully

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7/16/13 4:37:42 PM#23
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by angelknight4

Oh, let's not forget Red Phoenix server, the Shredded Beef recipe for RG 3rd inner still a hot topic and it has been weeks since the problem occur, all those complaint, tickets are getting nowhere at all.

While I don't question the gravity of the issue, to those of us not versed in AoW gameplay, that reads rather humorously.

Aaah thanks for highlighting this. 

 

Shredded beef is a really rare chef recipe that drops in the first instance. Royal Guards need shredded beef in order to progress their third internal. This is no bug, just like Scholars need a poem called Legend of Mr. Wului, which is transcribed by lucky calligraphers. I happened to be one of the maybe 5 people who can make the Mr. Wului. Each one takes 3-5 mins for me to physically craft if I don't mess up.

 

The "Problem" he is speaking of is a problem of him not wanting to buy them from the lucky chef who can make them :p No two crafters are the same in age of Wushu. There's some really rare shit out there.

 

  Kuppa

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7/16/13 5:43:23 PM#24
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by ozmono
Originally posted by SirFubar

Like others are saying, its hard to gauge numbers in F2P MMO since they never release real information on active players. AoW is no different, I couldn't find the numbers worldwide but in China, it's over 10 million registered users. Source

10 million registered users is nothing for a F2P MMO. I'm also pretty sure the numbers didn't get that much higher when it was released in NA and EU. Even WoW have easily 2 or 3 time this number and it's not even a F2P. WoW are around 8.3 million active subs ATM. Source

So don't listen to the AoW fanboy who said that AoW had more players than WoW and that Snail Games could make more money with their Jet-Li movie than Blizzard could with a WoW movie lol.

Thanks.

http://eon.businesswire.com/news/eon/20120606006747/en/Age-of-Wulin/martial-arts/beta

20 million listed here. I've seen something where SnailGames said 15 million. 

 

edit - here is another  http://finance.boston.com/boston/news/read/21514469/snail_games%E2%80%99_item_sales_opening_day_of_open_beta

Like other f2p games you know those don't mean they have that number of players actively playing.

Wushu is sub with a free to play option.

So all the f2p games with sub options that as well?? You can't just change words around when it's the game you like bc...

 

Regardless of what it is they are counting both. And you can be sure the majority is using the "f2p option".


  angelknight4

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7/16/13 8:30:17 PM#25
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by angelknight4

Oh, let's not forget Red Phoenix server, the Shredded Beef recipe for RG 3rd inner still a hot topic and it has been weeks since the problem occur, all those complaint, tickets are getting nowhere at all.

While I don't question the gravity of the issue, to those of us not versed in AoW gameplay, that reads rather humorously.

Aaah thanks for highlighting this. 

 

Shredded beef is a really rare chef recipe that drops in the first instance. Royal Guards need shredded beef in order to progress their third internal. This is no bug, just like Scholars need a poem called Legend of Mr. Wului, which is transcribed by lucky calligraphers. I happened to be one of the maybe 5 people who can make the Mr. Wului. Each one takes 3-5 mins for me to physically craft if I don't mess up.

 

The "Problem" he is speaking of is a problem of him not wanting to buy them from the lucky chef who can make them :p No two crafters are the same in age of Wushu. There's some really rare shit out there.

 

And you are lying again. For weeks, people in Red Phoenix spent hundreds upon hundreds of run on TV and yet it never drop. However, in Blue Dragon, my guild mate got it drop several times here. So tell me again how is that not a bug?

Some of my friends who moved to RP server and they never got it drops despite non-stop farming. And I remember saying again and again I am playing on Blue Dragon, yet you just have to paint negative picture on people who point out the problem with the game.

As for "No two crafters are the same". Sound like advertisement when they want you to play the game, it's called randoms.

I bet you don't play much game with random stats on equip. It's all luck and yet several time you intentionally misleading people with this statement. Perhaps try Aion to see for change, it has random tuning, random HQ to get better equipment and random recipe as well, sound like AoW? Oh, that's right, it's not since AoW crafting is so unique it has NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE *roll eyes*

  bcbully

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7/16/13 9:38:43 PM#26
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by angelknight4

Oh, let's not forget Red Phoenix server, the Shredded Beef recipe for RG 3rd inner still a hot topic and it has been weeks since the problem occur, all those complaint, tickets are getting nowhere at all.

While I don't question the gravity of the issue, to those of us not versed in AoW gameplay, that reads rather humorously.

Aaah thanks for highlighting this. 

 

Shredded beef is a really rare chef recipe that drops in the first instance. Royal Guards need shredded beef in order to progress their third internal. This is no bug, just like Scholars need a poem called Legend of Mr. Wului, which is transcribed by lucky calligraphers. I happened to be one of the maybe 5 people who can make the Mr. Wului. Each one takes 3-5 mins for me to physically craft if I don't mess up.

 

The "Problem" he is speaking of is a problem of him not wanting to buy them from the lucky chef who can make them :p No two crafters are the same in age of Wushu. There's some really rare shit out there.

 

And you are lying again. For weeks, people in Red Phoenix spent hundreds upon hundreds of run on TV and yet it never drop. However, in Blue Dragon, my guild mate got it drop several times here. So tell me again how is that not a bug?

Some of my friends who moved to RP server and they never got it drops despite non-stop farming. And I remember saying again and again I am playing on Blue Dragon, yet you just have to paint negative picture on people who point out the problem with the game.

As for "No two crafters are the same". Sound like advertisement when they want you to play the game, it's called randoms.

I bet you don't play much game with random stats on equip. It's all luck and yet several time you intentionally misleading people with this statement. Perhaps try Aion to see for change, it has random tuning, random HQ to get better equipment and random recipe as well, sound like AoW? Oh, that's right, it's not since AoW crafting is so unique it has NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE *roll eyes*

On BlueDragon, the orginal server, there are no more than 10 people who have that recipe. Over the course of 7 months, 10 people at most. The calligraphy one I have only 5 and one of those people doesn't play anymore. Again over seven months, and thousands of runs. It's real rare. If there was a problem beyond this, I do not know. 

 

No two crafters are the same, from their recipes to the talent.  No two fully enchanted items are the same, the stats are all random. Are you debating this?

  angelknight4

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7/16/13 10:48:44 PM#27
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by angelknight4

Oh, let's not forget Red Phoenix server, the Shredded Beef recipe for RG 3rd inner still a hot topic and it has been weeks since the problem occur, all those complaint, tickets are getting nowhere at all.

While I don't question the gravity of the issue, to those of us not versed in AoW gameplay, that reads rather humorously.

Aaah thanks for highlighting this. 

 

Shredded beef is a really rare chef recipe that drops in the first instance. Royal Guards need shredded beef in order to progress their third internal. This is no bug, just like Scholars need a poem called Legend of Mr. Wului, which is transcribed by lucky calligraphers. I happened to be one of the maybe 5 people who can make the Mr. Wului. Each one takes 3-5 mins for me to physically craft if I don't mess up.

 

The "Problem" he is speaking of is a problem of him not wanting to buy them from the lucky chef who can make them :p No two crafters are the same in age of Wushu. There's some really rare shit out there.

 

And you are lying again. For weeks, people in Red Phoenix spent hundreds upon hundreds of run on TV and yet it never drop. However, in Blue Dragon, my guild mate got it drop several times here. So tell me again how is that not a bug?

Some of my friends who moved to RP server and they never got it drops despite non-stop farming. And I remember saying again and again I am playing on Blue Dragon, yet you just have to paint negative picture on people who point out the problem with the game.

As for "No two crafters are the same". Sound like advertisement when they want you to play the game, it's called randoms.

I bet you don't play much game with random stats on equip. It's all luck and yet several time you intentionally misleading people with this statement. Perhaps try Aion to see for change, it has random tuning, random HQ to get better equipment and random recipe as well, sound like AoW? Oh, that's right, it's not since AoW crafting is so unique it has NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE *roll eyes*

On BlueDragon, the orginal server, there are no more than 10 people who have that recipe. Over the course of 7 months, 10 people at most. The calligraphy one I have only 5 and one of those people doesn't play anymore. Again over seven months, and thousands of runs. It's real rare. If there was a problem beyond this, I do not know. 

 

No two crafters are the same, from their recipes to the talent.  No two fully enchanted items are the same, the stats are all random. Are you debating this?

Here is you failed to understand, recipes get add with new updates and new items enter the drop table. There are not many people actively going TV Hell in the first 2 months alone and then most people refer GCC after.

However, the very fact is there are an entire RG in Red Phoenix going after TV Hell and they have been doing it for weeks. Zero dropped and other 2 new servers don't have the problem with it. You are telling me the drop are so rare that hundreds of people actively going to TV Hell and it doesn't drop, then there should be something to deal with since it is part of problem for RG compared to other schools.

And for your crafters, how are the crafter  different from one another? Please enlighten me on this. All they have is to get legendary status, then get recipes to craft, What make them stand out so much?

And for no two items alike, OF COURSE GENIUS, they are random stats, Aion has that as well. All luck based. This is not something to make a big deal, people with good luck get good stats. Again, it's RANDOM.

Is saying random stats so hard? Or you want to flower the wording to mislead people to say that it is unique to other games?

Edit: You want to talk about unique crafter? Try FF14 ARR, there are equipment that add stats to certain craft proffession, thus making them stand out, but in AoW, not so much since it is more luck based than anything.

Edit2: Since everything is random and sometimes leveling of the crafter is not even a factor, several times I got more stats enchant on my equipment from a low level one compared to max level. This is NOT SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF since it is again RNG or random stats.

  bcbully

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7/17/13 1:04:32 AM#28

Ok angel, so you are not disputing all enchanted items are different. 

 

Did you know that your crating xp makes a difference in the quality of item, less chance of making a weapon that does not have the proper number of enchants, and the enchant itself has a better chance of being higher, if you have more xp. Plus all crafters don't have the same recipes.

 

 

  Distopia

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7/17/13 1:07:40 AM#29
Originally posted by Torcip
Whatever snail games may say, cut that by 1/3rd for currently playing people. Then half of that for people who pay anything. This number would probably be more accurate.

I'd prefer to just know how many play, I'll let the company worry about how many pay.

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  angelknight4

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7/17/13 1:16:04 AM#30
Originally posted by bcbully

Ok angel, so you are not disputing all enchanted items are different. 

 

Did you know that your crating xp makes a difference in the quality of item, less chance of making a weapon that does not have the proper number of enchants, and the enchant itself has a better chance of being higher, if you have more xp. Plus all crafters don't have the same recipes.

 

 

Did you read the post? All stats are RANDOM STATS, instead of saying it is random stats, you flower the words to mislead people to believe in something different.

And now you are using myth about more xp to have better items and enchant? It's all LUCK BASED, are you telling me that is it not luck based or random stats? Yes, higher level has higher chance, but again it doesn't matter since it is LUCK BASED. I enchant quite a few items as well, sometimes I got crap luck with people who have max level and sometimes I got good stats with people who near max level.

And recipes? ARE YOU FREAKING JOKING? It is the easiest thing to get, farm instance a few times, I can get every recipes in there, some would take longer, but again, it is not the factor to make crafter so different from one another. How is recipes from one crafter different than others? Yes, the amount of recipe is different, but all recipes are the same recipes.

Again, misleading information and then intentionally provide wrong information as well, you have done this for months.

Did you know Aion also have recipes and guess what? Some recipes are more expensive than others and it has WAY MORE RECIPES than AoW.

  bcbully

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7/17/13 1:38:29 AM#31
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by bcbully

Ok angel, so you are not disputing all enchanted items are different. 

 

Did you know that your crating xp makes a difference in the quality of item, less chance of making a weapon that does not have the proper number of enchants, and the enchant itself has a better chance of being higher, if you have more xp. Plus all crafters don't have the same recipes.

 

 

Did you read the post? All stats are RANDOM STATS, instead of saying it is random stats, you flower the words to mislead people to believe in something different.

And now you are using myth about more xp to have better items and enchant? It's all LUCK BASED, are you telling me that is it not luck based or random stats? Yes, higher level has higher chance, but again it doesn't matter since it is LUCK BASED. I enchant quite a few items as well, sometimes I got crap luck with people who have max level and sometimes I got good stats with people who near max level.

And recipes? ARE YOU FREAKING JOKING? It is the easiest thing to get, farm instance a few times, I can get every recipes in there, some would take longer, but again, it is not the factor to make crafter so different from one another. How is recipes from one crafter different than others? Yes, the amount of recipe is different, but all recipes are the same recipes.

Again, misleading information and then intentionally provide wrong information as well, you have done this for months.

Did you know Aion also have recipes and guess what? Some recipes are more expensive than others and it has WAY MORE RECIPES than AoW.

ook dude... scroll up. I think you missed something. 

  angelknight4

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7/17/13 4:07:37 AM#32
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by angelknight4
Originally posted by bcbully

Ok angel, so you are not disputing all enchanted items are different. 

 

Did you know that your crating xp makes a difference in the quality of item, less chance of making a weapon that does not have the proper number of enchants, and the enchant itself has a better chance of being higher, if you have more xp. Plus all crafters don't have the same recipes.

 

 

Did you read the post? All stats are RANDOM STATS, instead of saying it is random stats, you flower the words to mislead people to believe in something different.

And now you are using myth about more xp to have better items and enchant? It's all LUCK BASED, are you telling me that is it not luck based or random stats? Yes, higher level has higher chance, but again it doesn't matter since it is LUCK BASED. I enchant quite a few items as well, sometimes I got crap luck with people who have max level and sometimes I got good stats with people who near max level.

And recipes? ARE YOU FREAKING JOKING? It is the easiest thing to get, farm instance a few times, I can get every recipes in there, some would take longer, but again, it is not the factor to make crafter so different from one another. How is recipes from one crafter different than others? Yes, the amount of recipe is different, but all recipes are the same recipes.

Again, misleading information and then intentionally provide wrong information as well, you have done this for months.

Did you know Aion also have recipes and guess what? Some recipes are more expensive than others and it has WAY MORE RECIPES than AoW.

ook dude... scroll up. I think you missed something. 

Ya, miss your explainning on how crafter are different.

Also, items are the same, there is HQ version just like others game and the stats are random and that is all there is to it.

If recipes really make crafter stand out so much, then Aion do a better jobs at than this game. Or FF11 where Moon Phase affect your crafting or FF14 ARR where your equipment make you a better crafter compared to others.

  jesad

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7/17/13 4:22:42 AM#33
Originally posted by ozmono
I just read someone saying it was bigger than WoW globally and I couldn't find the numbers, so does anyone have the sub numbers for it or the amount of active players worldwide?

Using my honest knowledge of what I know about some aspects of the game I would say this.

If they say 25 million I would cut that in half for the amount of people I've spoken to who have alts in several of the different crafting classes.  And I am being way generous by saying half because I know some of these people have two and three different crafting alts.

I'd cut that number in half again because it was a common practice in the beginning of the game to make a chef alt.  That means that even if you didn't do it for the other crafting skills, there is a very good chance that you did it for food.

That's 6.25 million active accounts spread across 4 us servers, I don't know how many Chinese servers, and I don't know how many European servers.

You can continue to do the math from there to come up with an approximate number of "people" playing.  Judging it by accounts is a bad way to go.

Other factors that increase the way that 6.25 is split.

Potential players playing characters from different schools.

Potential players who didn't like their name, or became a target of some sort and felt the need to reroll.

Potential players who got banned on one account and came back with another.

Gold farming accounts, which are legion.

Not trying to say anything bad about the game, but that 25 million figure was shenanigans to me the first time I ever saw it.  That's a lot of freaking people, even with China in the mix.

  rodingo

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7/17/13 9:21:36 AM#34
Originally posted by jesad

That's 6.25 million active accounts spread across 4 us servers, I don't know how many Chinese servers, and I don't know how many European servers.

LMAO,...dude come on.

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  Doogiehowser

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7/17/13 9:24:17 AM#35
Originally posted by ozmono
I just read someone saying it was bigger than WoW globally and I couldn't find the numbers, so does anyone have the sub numbers for it or the amount of active players worldwide?

Those were registered players not active numbers and even the registered ones seemed exaggerated.

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  bcbully

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7/17/13 10:21:27 AM#36
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by ozmono
I just read someone saying it was bigger than WoW globally and I couldn't find the numbers, so does anyone have the sub numbers for it or the amount of active players worldwide?

Those were registered players not active numbers and even the registered ones seemed exaggerated.

You don't know this. We don't know this. SnailGames knows this. SnailGames is doing AWESOME in China. 1500 employees. Your Flag Ship has to be doing pretty damn good to employ that number of people. 

 

To put it in perspective Trion had 300 people before they laid of 80%. 

  Doogiehowser

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7/17/13 10:23:23 AM#37
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by ozmono
I just read someone saying it was bigger than WoW globally and I couldn't find the numbers, so does anyone have the sub numbers for it or the amount of active players worldwide?

Those were registered players not active numbers and even the registered ones seemed exaggerated.

You don't know this. We don't know this. SnailGames knows this. SnailGames is doing AWESOME in China. 1500 employees. Your Flag Ship has to be doing pretty damn good to employ that number of people. 

 

To put it in perspective Trion had 300 people before they laid of 80%. 

The article you posted in other topic said nothing about active players however it did mention the number of registered players. The day Snailgames releases its active player base numbers there won't be any need for argument.

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

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-Luke McKinney

  DamonVile

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7/17/13 10:36:04 AM#38

I'd be interested in knowing how many registered accounts wow has world wide ( not active subs ) it might put some perspective on all this.

How many people have tried and left the game over it's 8 years, and they still have 8 or 9 million active ?

 

 

  bcbully

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7/17/13 10:43:17 AM#39
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by ozmono
I just read someone saying it was bigger than WoW globally and I couldn't find the numbers, so does anyone have the sub numbers for it or the amount of active players worldwide?

Those were registered players not active numbers and even the registered ones seemed exaggerated.

You don't know this. We don't know this. SnailGames knows this. SnailGames is doing AWESOME in China. 1500 employees. Your Flag Ship has to be doing pretty damn good to employ that number of people. 

 

To put it in perspective Trion had 300 people before they laid of 80%. 

The article you posted in other topic said nothing about active players however it did mention the number of registered players. The day Snailgames releases its active player base numbers there won't be any need for argument.

What's "active"?  My definition is people playing in the last few weeks.

 

What I linked says 20 million players. You added the word registered. Regardless It's a hell of a lot more people than the majority of popular games on this site.

  Doogiehowser

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7/17/13 11:02:35 AM#40
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by ozmono
I just read someone saying it was bigger than WoW globally and I couldn't find the numbers, so does anyone have the sub numbers for it or the amount of active players worldwide?

Those were registered players not active numbers and even the registered ones seemed exaggerated.

You don't know this. We don't know this. SnailGames knows this. SnailGames is doing AWESOME in China. 1500 employees. Your Flag Ship has to be doing pretty damn good to employ that number of people. 

 

To put it in perspective Trion had 300 people before they laid of 80%. 

The article you posted in other topic said nothing about active players however it did mention the number of registered players. The day Snailgames releases its active player base numbers there won't be any need for argument.

What's "active"?  My definition is people playing in the last few weeks.

 

What I linked says 20 million players. You added the word registered. Regardless It's a hell of a lot more people than the majority of popular games on this site.

I read that article again and since there was no mention of active 20 million players then it is quite safe to assume that 20 million is also including all the players who registered to their website.

Registration numbers is nothing to brag about though.

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney

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