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  jazz.be

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7/15/13 5:27:17 PM#61
Originally posted by Mannish
A World Of Warcraft movie could have a full cast of unknown actors and still destroy any attempt of an Age Of Wushu movie.

It would actually make the movie better if it doesn't have stupid famous lollywood actors.

Also, an Age Of Wushu movie would be nothing more but a generic martial arts movie. A Warcraft movie will have so much depth and uniqueness.

  fyerwall

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7/15/13 5:35:01 PM#62

An AoW movie might hit theaters in Asia, but would more than likely be a direct to DvD movie in the US.

A WoW Movie would pummel AoW because like it or not, hate it or not, EVERYONE knows what WoW is.

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3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"


  bcbully

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OP  7/15/13 5:38:53 PM#63
Originally posted by Arthasm

It will be a generic chinese kung-fu movie, titled "Age of Wushu". I don't see any story/lore/plot in Age of Wushu and Google says: https://www.google.rs/search?client=opera&q=age+of+wushu+lore&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest

 

The Legend of Condor Heros  This is what Age of Wushu is based upon. It's to the east as is Lord of the Rings is to the west.

 

And the very 1st result (EPIC FAIL!!!) - http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11985

Guess what? Wow can make also generic shit movie, even worse than AoW, but still will be better. But, not gonna happens, sorry. And Wow has this: http://www.wowpedia.org/Novel_guide

Someone or OP said AoW has 15-20 million players - well, don't believe me, I don't have any source or evidence, but Blizzard games since WC3 played 50 milion unique players. So, that's 2x more. If someone want proves, prove me your statement, I'll do mine, for sure.

 

Here is proof of my statment. I'm waiting for yours.

 

Also, Jet Li sux, Bruce Lee is way much better - if he would be main actor in AoW, Wow movie has nothing to do here, can only watch how AoW beats it easily. Bruce Lee is the only one who defeated Chuck Norris - but unfortunatelly is dead... Chuck is still alive and guess what??? Wow has Chuck Norris: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKYlARdbU1o

So, AoW movie is already doomed. Chuck Norris, it is.

I was talking to a Chinese guildie five minutes ago. I told him that I had never heard of Legends of Condor Heros (the information I linked above). He said "you an ignorant american." lmao He was aurguing for WoW btw.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Banquetto

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7/15/13 5:39:43 PM#64
How common is it for foreign films, and specifically Asian genre flicks, to get wide release in major cinema chains in the US?

Here in Australia, it almost never happens. The AoW movie you describe would certainly only screen in smaller arthouse cinemas, which would make it impossible for it to match WoW-movie's takings here.
  bcbully

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OP  7/15/13 6:01:07 PM#65
Originally posted by Banquetto
How common is it for foreign films, and specifically Asian genre flicks, to get wide release in major cinema chains in the US?

Here in Australia, it almost never happens. The AoW movie you describe would certainly only screen in smaller arthouse cinemas, which would make it impossible for it to match WoW-movie's takings here.

idk, but we get all the Jet Li movies.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Arthasm

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7/15/13 6:47:36 PM#66
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Arthasm

The Legend of Condor Heros  This is what Age of Wushu is based upon. It's to the east as is Lord of the Rings is to the west.

Never heard about it.

 

Here is proof of my statment. I'm waiting for yours.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Best_selling_Blizzard_games

http://www.statisticbrain.com/blizzard-entertainment-statistics/

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=world+of+warcraft

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=diablo

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=starcraft

Note: Physical copies, digital not inluded.

How many players in AoW without China, excuse me? 

 

Also, Jet Li sux, Bruce Lee is way much better - if he would be main actor in AoW, Wow movie has nothing to do here, can only watch how AoW beats it easily. Bruce Lee is the only one who defeated Chuck Norris - but unfortunatelly is dead... Chuck is still alive and guess what??? Wow has Chuck Norris: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKYlARdbU1o

So, AoW movie is already doomed. Chuck Norris, it is.

I was talking to a Chinese guildie five minutes ago. I told him that I had never heard of Legends of Condor Heros (the information I linked above). He said "you an ignorant american." lmao He was aurguing for WoW btw.

Asked my chinese Wow gametime seller, she said that's 1st time she hear about Legends of Condor Heroes.

 

Edit: Just for lols - http://www.thedailyblink.com/2013/02/welcome-duncan-jones/

  nariusseldon

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7/15/13 7:34:38 PM#67
Originally posted by SavageHorizon
Originally posted by Eir_S
Everyone knows WoW.  EVERYONE.  Jet Li is pretty popular, but a well-made Warcraft movie could destroy box office sales.  Besides, I didn't like Crouching Tiger, I doubt I'd care about Wushu.

And since when do you make up the all, you didn't like Crouching Tiger, and?

There are MUCH better martial arts movies, compared to Crouching Tiger, in terms of both story, and fight choreography. For example: Once upon a time in china, IP Man 1 & 2, and also IP Man a Legend is Born.

CT is only famous because it is known to the US audience.

  Arakazi

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7/15/13 7:44:06 PM#68
Both films would be awful.

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  maplestone

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7/15/13 8:14:54 PM#69

I was about to post something about having a hard time imagining myself enjoying a 2-hour cutscene until I realized that across the room at this very moment I have the Dungeons and Dragons Movie playing.

  Aysono

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7/15/13 9:07:02 PM#70
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Arthasm

It will be a generic chinese kung-fu movie, titled "Age of Wushu". I don't see any story/lore/plot in Age of Wushu and Google says: https://www.google.rs/search?client=opera&q=age+of+wushu+lore&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest

 

The Legend of Condor Heros  This is what Age of Wushu is based upon. It's to the east as is Lord of the Rings is to the west.

 

And the very 1st result (EPIC FAIL!!!) - http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11985

Guess what? Wow can make also generic shit movie, even worse than AoW, but still will be better. But, not gonna happens, sorry. And Wow has this: http://www.wowpedia.org/Novel_guide

Someone or OP said AoW has 15-20 million players - well, don't believe me, I don't have any source or evidence, but Blizzard games since WC3 played 50 milion unique players. So, that's 2x more. If someone want proves, prove me your statement, I'll do mine, for sure.

 

Here is proof of my statment. I'm waiting for yours.

 

Also, Jet Li sux, Bruce Lee is way much better - if he would be main actor in AoW, Wow movie has nothing to do here, can only watch how AoW beats it easily. Bruce Lee is the only one who defeated Chuck Norris - but unfortunatelly is dead... Chuck is still alive and guess what??? Wow has Chuck Norris: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKYlARdbU1o

So, AoW movie is already doomed. Chuck Norris, it is.

I was talking to a Chinese guildie five minutes ago. I told him that I had never heard of Legends of Condor Heros (the information I linked above). He said "you an ignorant american." lmao He was aurguing for WoW btw.

It is one of the most famous novels written by Louis Cha, better known as Jin Yong. Cha is vastly considered as the Godfather of modern Chinese Wuxia literature. He is like the Charles Dickens in English Literature or Agatha Christie in detective stories.

 

As a matter of fact, most Asian games are based on famous Chinese novels or historical events, therefore they resonate with Asians, particularly those with Chinese heritage, and generally do well when they are made into toys, films, TV series and such.

 

On the other hand, there is nothing in the Warcraft Universe that can tell anybody it is part of WoW. If there is ever a WoW movie (which will be a terrible investment), it will flop due to identity crisis.

  Rhinotones

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7/16/13 1:46:28 AM#71
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

Age of Wushu? who? 

Obviously World of Warcraft. This is no brainer.

Were talking worldwide now. Remember Wushu has more players than WoW worldwide, PLUS there are more martial arts fans than mmorpg gamers.

 

You gonna take you girl to go see a WoW movie or a movie staring Jet Li, like Hero?

The wording within your OP, poll and posts are very biased towards AoW. What's the point of conducting a biased poll other than to get everyone to agree with you?

A question to the OP - Would the movie be in Cantonese, Mandarin or  English (Jet Li has appeared in films spoken in these 3 languages)? If it's going to be in English you can most definitely discount the Chinese market as a box office hit and seeing that most of the 15 to 20 million players are non Westerners you'll be missing out there. If you want a movie to be a success then you make it in your target markets language.

Even though a subtitled movie like "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" received 10 Oscar nominations, and a reasonable box office result http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=crouchingtigerhiddendragon.htm it in no way came close to being a box office hit. So you can, at best, hope to be as successful as this.

Unfortunately, Consistent and accurate data is not currently available for China according to Box Office Mojo (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/china/ read notes) so we don't know what's successful and what the movie industry takings are for China.

So you're probably left with making it for a Westerner target market to be a box office success. Westerners who know of or who have played WoW compared to AoW = a massive difference.

  jesad

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7/16/13 3:43:52 AM#72

LOL Bully, you're alright with me.  And you know I love AOW, but I think you're reaching a little bit here.  World of Warcraft is waaaaayyyyy more heavily marketed in the US.  It's been around longer, more people have played it or have known someone else who has played it, and to be quite honest, AOW doesn't quite have the thematic presence yet that I think it needs to succeed at beating WoW in the theater.  A lot of people I talk to in that game don't even watch kung-fu flicks, which I find both disgusting and surprising at the same time.  Meanwhile WOW is all a lot of people know about the fantasy genre.  It is literally responsible for bringing people into the genre, which again, AOW has not had enough time to do.

So in spite of already having played AOW longer than I ever stuck with WoW, I have to vote WoW on this one.  Jet Li or no.

Besides, there are already a plethora of already classic movies out there that give the Age of Wushu experience.

Crouching Tiger HIdden Dragon (deals with Wudang)

Hero (deals with calligraphy, weiqi, and a lot of other topics native to AOW and is pretty much the precursor to AOW)

5 Shaolin Warriors (5 masters of death in the US) - Even has royal guards with the claw in it.

5 Deadly Venoms (deals with the constable) (This movie is even mentioned in WoW)

Master Killer (aka The 36 Chamber of Shaolin, a movie so great that the entire Wutang Clan had to do an album of the same name)  (deals with the Shaolin temple)

And "Storm Warriors" and "A man called Hero" just cause they're cool.

Oh wait, and let's not forget "The Drunken Master" featuring the legendary Jackie Chan.

All of these movies and more explore and preclude the concepts found in Age of Wushu.

So, given the same amount of care taken to both movies, an AOW movie would have to be really, really good in order to outgross the simple......pardon my pun, WoW factor of a WoW movie.

At least that's my opinion, who knows?

 

  muffins89

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7/16/13 3:46:51 AM#73
the last good video game movie I saw was "The Wizard" starring fred and ben savage.

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  User Deleted
7/16/13 3:48:04 AM#74
Fetch Quest the movie or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon 2?... is that even really a choice now?
  jesad

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7/16/13 3:59:31 AM#75
Originally posted by Dihoru
Fetch Quest the movie or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon 2?... is that even really a choice now?

LOL I laughed at the most recent D&D movies also (because they were laughable.  Ray Liotta and Marlon Wayans? haha c'mon son!), but I mysteriously find myself leaving them on the TV whenever I pass them on Sci-Fi now.

I'm telling you, fanboism can go a long way.

  Stromm

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7/16/13 4:01:16 AM#76
Jet Li should put on furry suit and play panda in warcraft movie.
  User Deleted
7/16/13 4:07:59 AM#77
Originally posted by jesad
Originally posted by Dihoru
Fetch Quest the movie or Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon 2?... is that even really a choice now?

LOL I laughed at the most recent D&D movies also (because they were laughable.  Ray Liotta and Marlon Wayans? haha c'mon son!), but I mysteriously find myself leaving them on the TV whenever I pass them on Sci-Fi now.

I'm telling you, fanboism can go a long way.

The only way a WoW movie would be interesting (in a comedic way) would be if they show how Thrall was conceived complete with orc grunt quotes from Warcraft 2.

  Arglebargle

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7/16/13 4:24:56 AM#78
Kind of a fanboyish question.  Though as a fan of Hong Kong action, I'd probably love to see another big hit from there.  But any such action film has loads of competition from other, similar films.    All the WoW movie has to do is be 'not stoopid', and it will be head and shoulders above most fantasy movie equivalents.   I think the WoW guys might grasp that a decent film could bring loads of sequels, since that's the Hollywood way now. 

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  Jean-Luc_Picard

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7/16/13 4:49:37 AM#79

I've already seen several "Age of Wushu" movies...

Two good ones are "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" and "The Forbidden Kingdom".

 

Without any fanatic interference, but just being logical, there's no doubt the WoW movie will be bigger. Mind you, I said bigger, and not better, better remains to be proven. Anyone pretending otherwise is living in some kind of wonderland where his wishes become reality (aka typical fanboism).

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7/16/13 4:58:47 AM#80

The WoW movie.

They would both be utter crap, though. Because computer game movies are always crap. Its like a law of nature or something.

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