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  Shadowguy64

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7/13/13 2:08:45 PM#21
Originally posted by Gholos
Originally posted by Zorlofe
Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
We don't. Honestly, I'm seriously hoping it's 1 big server and a super niche MMO for the old school players. I'd much rather play with a good, small community than the crap thats out there now.

I hate to say it but I have to agree with this guy. Seems so many of the games I've played in the past are ruined because of the community. I left WoW specifically because of the community and I don't want to see the same kind of trash players ruin this game either.

/agree

 

If you three are an example of the "good, small EQ1 vet community"...then your community sucks. Rude, selfish, separatists.

 

Nice job. Way to be a shining example of what is in store for new players in a new game.

 

"Go back to WoW"

"This game isn't for you"

"Join our guild, Original EQ1 Vets only"

 

Hopefully you are just the bad eggs of the old EQ1 community and the game won't be ruined by you and people like you.

  User Deleted
7/13/13 2:11:04 PM#22
Originally posted by Gholos
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
We don't. Honestly, I'm seriously hoping it's 1 big server and a super niche MMO for the old school players. I'd much rather play with a good, small community than the crap thats out there now.

 

Oh yeah, the community is going to be awesome. Way to go...

Well, i m playing GW2 and Neverwinter atm, i never seen worst communities since i play MMORPG, if these are the kind of players i have to expect in EQN i really prefer to play in a server with the old EQ players. If i find a good community in a game i tend to be very helpful otherwise i will become a real bastard. In GW2 i have tried to be helpul at start but there too many rude and immature people in game, people that go afk in the istance without say nothing, people that after being rezzed dont say not even a "thank"  or that say "rez me fast" and so on.

So you act like a real bastard here because...? Sorry dude but treating everyone the same will just make everyone treat you equally bad... even I don't treat everyone the same and I am a massive cynic and pessimist by nature.

  Shadowguy64

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7/13/13 2:11:04 PM#23
Originally posted by Gholos
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
We don't. Honestly, I'm seriously hoping it's 1 big server and a super niche MMO for the old school players. I'd much rather play with a good, small community than the crap thats out there now.

 

Oh yeah, the community is going to be awesome. Way to go...

Well, i m playing GW2 and Neverwinter atm, i never seen worst communities since i play MMORPG, if these are the kind of players i have to expect in EQN i really prefer to play in a server with the old EQ players. If i find a good community in a game i tend to be very helpful otherwise i will become a real bastard. In GW2 i have tried to be helpul at start but there too many rude and immature people in game, people that go afk in the istance without say nothing, people that after being rezzed dont say not even a "thank"  or that say "rez me fast" and so on.

 

I agree that there are some really bad people out there. But, per my irritated rant on previous post, it just doesn't seem like a good community builder to state you don't want new players an hope they just leave.

  Gholos

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7/13/13 2:30:17 PM#24
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Gholos
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
We don't. Honestly, I'm seriously hoping it's 1 big server and a super niche MMO for the old school players. I'd much rather play with a good, small community than the crap thats out there now.

 

Oh yeah, the community is going to be awesome. Way to go...

Well, i m playing GW2 and Neverwinter atm, i never seen worst communities since i play MMORPG, if these are the kind of players i have to expect in EQN i really prefer to play in a server with the old EQ players. If i find a good community in a game i tend to be very helpful otherwise i will become a real bastard. In GW2 i have tried to be helpul at start but there too many rude and immature people in game, people that go afk in the istance without say nothing, people that after being rezzed dont say not even a "thank"  or that say "rez me fast" and so on.

So you act like a real bastard here because...? Sorry dude but treating everyone the same will just make everyone treat you equally bad... even I don't treat everyone the same and I am a massive cynic and pessimist by nature.

For "here" you mean in EQN? When EQN will be released i will try to play in a server with the most old EQ players, then i will see how will grow the community and i will try to give my contribution for build a good one, so i will help people etc., but if the vast majority of players will be of immature and rude one i will simply play only for my interst and in a selfish way


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  Greez

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7/13/13 2:40:14 PM#25

I haven't really played EQ (tried EQII out once but it was too expensive), but I never really looked at an MMO and asked if I'll be welcome in it. I just get it and play it. I doubt I'll be alone.

Also, if you think someone is rude because they don't say "thanks" for you rezzing them in GW2 (which happens every 5 minutes) or opening a door for them, you have issues. I never expect people to thank when I do such things, don't do stuff expecting reward if you get so mad at it.

  User Deleted
7/13/13 2:44:41 PM#26
Originally posted by Gholos
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Gholos
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
We don't. Honestly, I'm seriously hoping it's 1 big server and a super niche MMO for the old school players. I'd much rather play with a good, small community than the crap thats out there now.

 

Oh yeah, the community is going to be awesome. Way to go...

Well, i m playing GW2 and Neverwinter atm, i never seen worst communities since i play MMORPG, if these are the kind of players i have to expect in EQN i really prefer to play in a server with the old EQ players. If i find a good community in a game i tend to be very helpful otherwise i will become a real bastard. In GW2 i have tried to be helpul at start but there too many rude and immature people in game, people that go afk in the istance without say nothing, people that after being rezzed dont say not even a "thank"  or that say "rez me fast" and so on.

So you act like a real bastard here because...? Sorry dude but treating everyone the same will just make everyone treat you equally bad... even I don't treat everyone the same and I am a massive cynic and pessimist by nature.

For "here" you mean in EQN? When EQN will be released i will try to play in a server with the most old EQ players, then i will see how will grow the community and i will try to give my contribution for build a good one, so i will help people etc., but if the vast majority of players will be of immature and rude one i will simply play only for my interst and in a selfish way

Then lets hope its single shard so you can't run away like a <insert preferred adjective here>. You make a difference by standing and fighting not by moaning and saying its unfair, you have not done the former ergo have no right to complain.

  Khurg

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7/13/13 2:46:35 PM#27
Not being elitest assholes is a start
  Vidir

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7/13/13 2:56:00 PM#28

Op question:                   

  How do we make non-EQ players feel welcome in EQNext

Not up to us the consumer but the developers and I hope they will do a good work on it.

  Dullahan

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7/13/13 2:58:39 PM#29
I will welcome them by pking them everywhere I go and shouting go back to WoW newb when they die.

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  Distopia

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7/13/13 3:00:25 PM#30
Originally posted by Khurg
Not being elitest assholes is a start

Exactly.... A good community starts with helpful as well as social players, if it's full of the "go back to WOW" crowd there's no hope for this game if it is a true sandbox. A sandbox lives or dies based on it's community.

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  Distopia

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7/13/13 3:01:37 PM#31
Originally posted by Vidir

Op question:                   

  How do we make non-EQ players feel welcome in EQNext

Not up to us the consumer but the developers and I hope they will do a good work on it.

Wrong. EQN is supposed to be a sandbox, that means a focus on community to some extent, without it you have a hollow experience.

For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson

It is a sign of a defeated man, to attack at ones character in the face of logic and reason- Me

  User Deleted
7/13/13 3:09:10 PM#32
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Vidir

Op question:                   

  How do we make non-EQ players feel welcome in EQNext

Not up to us the consumer but the developers and I hope they will do a good work on it.

Wrong. EQN is supposed to be a sandbox, that means a focus on community to some extent, without it you have a hollow experience.

Give this man a medal.

 

I see allot of anti-social behaviour which for PVE-ers is terribly amusing. But considering this will be a sandpark at worse....

  tank017

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Posts: 2206

7/13/13 3:13:38 PM#33

why would it be different than any other game?

 

you just jump in and play,there's no us and them when it comes to playing an MMO..

 

I couldnt care less where people come from.

  Antiquated

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7/13/13 3:15:18 PM#34
Originally posted by Kiyoris

How do we make non-EQ players feel welcome in EQNext.?

WoW...if this word makes you reflexively reach for some sort of insult, upon meeting someone for the very first time, the problem is you. (EQ1...the reverse, naturally, completely applies.)

Reminding people to lay off the automated mail-it-in insults sounds like a positive first step.

Do I even need to mention sandbox/themepark? PVP/PVE?

  Alders

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7/13/13 3:29:10 PM#35
Originally posted by duggyfr3sh123

 the question is how will EQ players feel welcome?

 

This is the real question and best post in this thread.  How are all the old school players going to handle complex combat, should it be implemented?  How are they going to handle combat that doesn't allow for lots and lots of downtime to regain mana or whatever?  How are they going to handle lots and lots of movement?

 

The old school players, such as myself, will handle the community and reputation aspects just fine.  I'll also handle any sort of combat as well becasue I'm not stuck in the past on some unintuitive and terrible combat system.  How are the others that refuse to adapt going to feel?

  Gholos

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7/13/13 3:32:55 PM#36
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Distopia
 

 

I see allot of anti-social behaviour which for PVE-ers is terribly amusing. But considering this will be a sandpark at worse....

I dont know if this comment is related to me (but i think yes)...i have say that i want to play in a server with the old EQ players, that not imply that i will not play with other people or that i hate players from other games, i have say that i will try to contribute to build up a helpful community helping others... if this is an anti-social behaviour...


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  Attend4455

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7/13/13 3:34:24 PM#37
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Gholos
Originally posted by Zorlofe
Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
We don't. Honestly, I'm seriously hoping it's 1 big server and a super niche MMO for the old school players. I'd much rather play with a good, small community than the crap thats out there now.

I hate to say it but I have to agree with this guy. Seems so many of the games I've played in the past are ruined because of the community. I left WoW specifically because of the community and I don't want to see the same kind of trash players ruin this game either.

/agree

 

If you three are an example of the "good, small EQ1 vet community"...then your community sucks. Rude, selfish, separatists.

 

Nice job. Way to be a shining example of what is in store for new players in a new game.

 

"Go back to WoW"

"This game isn't for you"

"Join our guild, Original EQ1 Vets only"

 

Hopefully you are just the bad eggs of the old EQ1 community and the game won't be ruined by you and people like you.

Quoting for justice. TBH I can't see what the fuss is about EQN, I tried EQ2 and my abiding impression was of popup boxes in the middle of the screen asking if I wanted to upgrade my account to paid ... frequently.

I don't have any problem with the crafting mini-game (EQ2), in fact I'm in favour of it if it stops botters and I think it would be good to add to other games.

That doesn't mean I'm a hater, I would recommend people try a game rather than rely on forum opinions and that includes EQ2 and EQN.

I sometimes make spelling and grammar errors but I don't pretend it's because I'm using a phone

  Rogosh

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7/13/13 5:53:35 PM#38

If the game requires you to group or team up then the community will  become close nit very fast. The opposite is also true, if its a solo centric game then the community will be awful fast. Most of us old school eq1 players understand what it means to be LFG and not just que up for my 15 minute instance.

You could spend hours in a good group in EQ1, if EQN has this feeling again the community should be just fine.

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  tank017

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7/13/13 5:59:54 PM#39
Originally posted by Alders
Originally posted by duggyfr3sh123

 the question is how will EQ players feel welcome?

 

This is the real question and best post in this thread.  How are all the old school players going to handle complex combat, should it be implemented?  How are they going to handle combat that doesn't allow for lots and lots of downtime to regain mana or whatever?  How are they going to handle lots and lots of movement?

 

The old school players, such as myself, will handle the community and reputation aspects just fine.  I'll also handle any sort of combat as well becasue I'm not stuck in the past on some unintuitive and terrible combat system.  How are the others that refuse to adapt going to feel?

what makes you think that old school players are stucking playing old school games?

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7/13/13 6:01:56 PM#40


Originally posted by Masterfuzzfuzz
We don't. Honestly, I'm seriously hoping it's 1 big server and a super niche MMO for the old school players. I'd much rather play with a good, small community than the crap thats out there now.

totally agree, which is why i think the EQN community will not be great, unless it is considered a failure and has a small niche player base.

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