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  Gholos

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7/13/13 6:37:20 AM#41
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Gholos

 

 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Equipment-Dungeons-Dragons-Roleplaying-Accessory/dp/078692649X/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_cp_9_9BDR?ie=UTF8&refRID=1Z84XWK91HHMZ46G7JBD enjoy reading up then (take note which weapons, if any, are class locked).

 

 

Well, when i played D&D and AD&D probably there was more restrictions but i think that you couldnt play a wizard that use plate armor even now, howether i m not interested in D&D on EQ forum.

If you want to erase all restrictions in EQN classes, well i want to play a warrior that can go stealth as a rogue, blink as wizard, use powerful ranged spells, heal as a cleric and so on...

Then you'd A) suffer from armor penalties (so in a straight up magic duel vs a pure mage your ass would quite literally fall off), your healing would be maybe 1/2 at best as a cleric, your stealth wouldn't be high level enough to fool an actual rogues perception skills, etc,etc. Need I say more or do you really wanna look more like you have no clue what you're talking about?

Mine was a provocation, as a warrior i dont want to heal, go stealth (how you can go stealth using heavy armor? is simply ridicolous), use spells. 

I want to have my specific abilities that normaly are the use of heavy armors, shield , weapons, 2h weapons and i want that other classes do the same. In my opinion a wizard that can use plate armor or 2h weapon will become too strong, also he probably dont have the training necessary to use  weapons and armors exactly as a warrior have no ideo how spells works. Erase these differencies will kill the variety, i dont want to play in a game filled with clones, in what all classes can do all things. I like to have strengths and weakness and i want to count on others that have different abilities from me.


"Brute force not work? It because you not use enought of it"
-Karg, Ogryn Bone'ead.

  Whesky

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7/13/13 6:38:52 AM#42
Originally posted by Dihoru

My thoughts are: It's about time another take on the pre-CU era SWG professions systems be done, enough with this fixed class, fixed loadout crap.

Originally posted by goozmania
There would be no balance in such a system... although the sandbox obsessed don't seem to care about balance, SOE certainly does, as there will be group play and raiding.

I will refer you to EVE-Online, specifically Class 6 wormhole combat anomalies and 9/10 or 10/10 DED sites. Both of those require certain conditions be met to run them without coming out the ass end in a pod and if you think you killing Deathwing was challenging try farming a triple or quad capital escalation on a Class 6 wormhole anomaly on top of the regular spawns (under those conditions if everyone's not sharp and knows what they're doing your ship gets pretty much vaporized).

But weren't there fixed loadouts, to an extent, in SWG too?

I remember you needing sometimes certain skills for a certain weapon (lightning cannon!).

Which is why I voted yes!

SWG, Eve, Planetside 2, EQN, Star Citizen

  WW4BW

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7/13/13 6:40:18 AM#43

One way people could have their cake and eat it too would be to not put a hard restriction on who coul wear what. But at the same time gear would have bonuses and penalties.

For instance: It isnt easy to dodge in plate armour. And it would take great strenght and stamina to move fast in it too. Putting in hard restrictions is the simple way of doing it. But I would compare it to EVE where you might fly a ship "intended" for "ttanking" but you could fit it for massive damage with almost no tank or for speed. Or for mining or support.

  ice-vortex

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7/13/13 7:06:55 AM#44
I just think this question can't be answered until we learn about the class system. If it has either a robust multiclass system or subclass system, this may not even need to be an option. This also may not need to be an option if they have more hybrid classes such as a Battle Mage or Spellsword.
  Purutzil

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7/13/13 7:15:20 AM#45

Yes, should it be within some reasoning very much so. Its there for balance, particularly armor. A squishy heavy damage dealer should NEVER be wearing full plate dishing massive damage from the back. Now, they COULD make different armor types have different advantages and disadvantages, but chances are it won't work that way and it would provide difficulty to balance (likely one type will rule over the others). 

 

In repeat: YES, it would be stupid if you didn't and lead to massive imbalance.

  Oberholzer

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7/13/13 7:20:52 AM#46
If there is total freedom for weapons and armor are other things affected though with choices? Is a rogue less effective with stealth wearing plate and carrying a 2 handed sword? Would seem to make sense.
  User Deleted
7/13/13 7:35:23 AM#47
Originally posted by Oberholzer
If there is total freedom for weapons and armor are other things affected though with choices? Is a rogue less effective with stealth wearing plate and carrying a 2 handed sword? Would seem to make sense.

Yes it would be hard to be stealthy wearing 20-30 kgs of clanging metal. I love the detractors in this thread that actually try to rationalize restrictive classes... they're 1) trying to balance it in a perfect vacuum and 2) trying to talk only about advantages.

 

To everyone that thinks they can be the end all be all in a game with freeform classes kindly go (re)play Neverwinter Nights and see how far you get trying to be a -supresses a laugh- heavy plated, stealthy, rogue, or a archmage in plate mail using a greatsword.

  nerovipus32

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7/13/13 7:37:54 AM#48
It's stupid that you can't use a sword or any other weapon because of the class you pick. Let people use whatever armour and weapons they like. Weapons and armour should have their own progression system.
  xAPOCx

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7/13/13 7:47:57 AM#49
Originally posted by goozmania
There would be no balance in such a system... although the sandbox obsessed don't seem to care about balance, SOE certainly does, as there will be group play and raiding.

There isn't balance in real life. why should there be in a sandbox mmo. Balancing classes messes up the dynamics of mmos.

  Stiler

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7/13/13 7:57:19 AM#50

IMO having class restrictions leads to everyone of that class looking/feeling thei isame.

 

With no restrictions it allows for more freedom of choice and lets people play characters how they want, using what they want. So one character can be different from another of the same class, which to me is a good thing.

 

More choices and more variety I say.

  Deolus

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7/13/13 7:59:56 AM#51
While I'm all for the notion that classes should be restricted to certain weapons and armor, I often wondered in EQ after a speight of "class balancing" that SoE did, that every class could more or less do similar damage, yet my wizzy could still be one-shotted by mobs. Didn't seem quite right to me..
  xAPOCx

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7/13/13 8:02:59 AM#52
Originally posted by Waterlily
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by Waterlily

Of course, I can't imagine a caster wearing plate or wielding a sword.

you didnt play battlemage in Dragon Age nor built it in Skyrim

Just like I can't imagine a tank using a magic staff.

You didnt play Guardian in GW2.

 

So I assume those games can do those things, which is fine, just saying what I prefer. I prefer order and class balance, including gear choices specific to archetypes, it allows me to roleplay and immerse in the game more.

I think Gandalf and Tolkien would like to have a word with you...

 

  xAPOCx

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7/13/13 8:20:52 AM#53
Originally posted by nerovipus32
It's stupid that you can't use a sword or any other weapon because of the class you pick. Let people use whatever armour and weapons they like. Weapons and armour should have their own progression system.

+1 to this. With Advantages will come Disadvantages. Take that how you want but there can me a down side to using a type of gear/weapon to a specific class. Physical atks/defence Magic atk/defence stealth/ block/ run speed/ atk speed/ casting times all could be helps or hindered by the gear/weapons you use.

 

Could stealth be affected by a warrior wearing plate carrying a larg shield? Hell yes. He would be noisy and cumbersome. But if that same warrior had just a one handed sword and say leather gear on then he would be more effective.

 

Same can be said for any of the other classes. All im saying is if i want to make a Ogre wizard that uses a sword to shoot fireballs up your ass, i should be able to make one.

 

  User Deleted
7/13/13 8:24:03 AM#54
I don't mind if they let us decide, so i voted no. 
  Waterlily

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7/13/13 8:26:26 AM#55
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Waterlily
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by Waterlily

Of course, I can't imagine a caster wearing plate or wielding a sword.

you didnt play battlemage in Dragon Age nor built it in Skyrim

Just like I can't imagine a tank using a magic staff.

You didnt play Guardian in GW2.

 

So I assume those games can do those things, which is fine, just saying what I prefer. I prefer order and class balance, including gear choices specific to archetypes, it allows me to roleplay and immerse in the game more.

I think Gandalf and Tolkien would like to have a word with you...

 

I feel it already looks weird. It's so easy for an MMO to lose any sense of realism. It becomes a mish mash of armor like WoW that looks like a circus.

  Gholos

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7/13/13 8:32:48 AM#56
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Waterlily
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by Waterlily

Of course, I can't imagine a caster wearing plate or wielding a sword.

you didnt play battlemage in Dragon Age nor built it in Skyrim

Just like I can't imagine a tank using a magic staff.

You didnt play Guardian in GW2.

 

So I assume those games can do those things, which is fine, just saying what I prefer. I prefer order and class balance, including gear choices specific to archetypes, it allows me to roleplay and immerse in the game more.

I think Gandalf and Tolkien would like to have a word with you...

 

I dont think Gandalf and Tolkien would be interested in classes's balance. We are talking about a game.


"Brute force not work? It because you not use enought of it"
-Karg, Ogryn Bone'ead.

  User Deleted
7/13/13 8:34:53 AM#57
Originally posted by Waterlily
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Waterlily
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by Waterlily

Of course, I can't imagine a caster wearing plate or wielding a sword.

you didnt play battlemage in Dragon Age nor built it in Skyrim

Just like I can't imagine a tank using a magic staff.

You didnt play Guardian in GW2.

 

So I assume those games can do those things, which is fine, just saying what I prefer. I prefer order and class balance, including gear choices specific to archetypes, it allows me to roleplay and immerse in the game more.

I think Gandalf and Tolkien would like to have a word with you...

 

I feel it already looks weird. It's so easy for an MMO to lose any sense of realism. It becomes a mish mash of armor like WoW that looks like a circus.

Except WoW has fixed classes which don't break conventions (mages wear cloth and while they could at one point use swords there are no swords for mages, warriors wear plate and use greatweapons or 1 hander and shield, etc).

  Loktofeit

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7/13/13 8:37:26 AM#58
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by nerovipus32
It's stupid that you can't use a sword or any other weapon because of the class you pick. Let people use whatever armour and weapons they like. Weapons and armour should have their own progression system.

+1 to this. With Advantages will come Disadvantages. Take that how you want but there can me a down side to using a type of gear/weapon to a specific class. Physical atks/defence Magic atk/defence stealth/ block/ run speed/ atk speed/ casting times all could be helps or hindered by the gear/weapons you use.

Could stealth be affected by a warrior wearing plate carrying a larg shield? Hell yes. He would be noisy and cumbersome. But if that same warrior had just a one handed sword and say leather gear on then he would be more effective.

Same can be said for any of the other classes. All im saying is if i want to make a Ogre wizard that uses a sword to shoot fireballs up your ass, i should be able to make one.

I'm the same way, however there is a surprising number of players that would have a lot of trouble wrapping their heads around anything that violated their pre-existing stereotypes/archetypes.  There have been some ways around it, but those lead to just different coded templates. For example, if you give a mage a knife as a primary weapon, he's no longer a mage, he's now a warlock and is expected to be bound by the rules of warlock, having a completely different set of skills and functionality. There's a certain amount of lunacy to class-restricted systems. :)

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  Loktofeit

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7/13/13 8:41:35 AM#59
Originally posted by Waterlily
Originally posted by xAPOCx

I feel it already looks weird. It's so easy for an MMO to lose any sense of realism. It becomes a mish mash of armor like WoW that looks like a circus.

Like my mace wielding hunter or bow shooting priest? Maybe you were referring to that plateclad dual-wield handaxe mage you had.

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  Whesky

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7/13/13 8:45:35 AM#60
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Waterlily
Originally posted by xAPOCx
Originally posted by Waterlily
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by Waterlily

Of course, I can't imagine a caster wearing plate or wielding a sword.

you didnt play battlemage in Dragon Age nor built it in Skyrim

Just like I can't imagine a tank using a magic staff.

You didnt play Guardian in GW2.

 

So I assume those games can do those things, which is fine, just saying what I prefer. I prefer order and class balance, including gear choices specific to archetypes, it allows me to roleplay and immerse in the game more.

I think Gandalf and Tolkien would like to have a word with you...

 

I feel it already looks weird. It's so easy for an MMO to lose any sense of realism. It becomes a mish mash of armor like WoW that looks like a circus.

Except WoW has fixed classes which don't break conventions (mages wear cloth and while they could at one point use swords there are no swords for mages, warriors wear plate and use greatweapons or 1 hander and shield, etc).

 

Good point!

Waterlilly, in what way does an mmo have a sense of realism to you?

I would just like you to elaborate.

To me it's more important the game has a sense of self, it's own "realism" defined within the game world.

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