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  Elapsed

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OP  7/07/13 8:55:11 PM#1
I just beat the game today on normal mode. I enjoyed except now I see I'm supposed to beat the game 2 more times to unlock the highest difficulty? I liked it, but not enough to play through it again entirely. Seems like a lazy design.
  Shadowguy64

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7/07/13 10:06:39 PM#2
Guess you'd better uninstall and start spending your afternoons on the D3 forums complaining since playing the game like everyone else seem to be too much for you.
  Elapsed

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OP  7/08/13 12:09:39 AM#3
I already blocked off my calendar from 11-4 tomorrow to make more posts.
  sportsfan

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7/08/13 8:48:45 AM#4

diablo 3 in hardcore mode is probably the best game I ever played.

your goal is simply to survive and while doing this up your crafting and participate in an economy where ... everyone dies.

marvelous.

it is like EvE without space ship back up and a constantly reset economy ...

 

it is like playing "the" video game of all video games: you only get one life to live.

Diablo 3 HC returns to the purest form of video gaming: how to survive and hold on to avoid the "game over" screen.

the resource game on the AH behind it adds  icing to the cake.

once you encounter death though ... you still have all crafting skills and gold and some old stocked gear to ... try again.

simply fabulous. best game ever.

 

 

 

  expresso

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7/08/13 9:04:26 AM#5
Originally posted by Elapsed
I just beat the game today on normal mode. I enjoyed except now I see I'm supposed to beat the game 2 more times to unlock the highest difficulty? I liked it, but not enough to play through it again entirely. Seems like a lazy design.

Takes more than 1 play through to play ALL of D3, those dungeons you went in, Those events you took part in, those roaming packs of elites, chests spawns, dungeon layouts are all random.  Worth a 2nd play through of any ones money, bosses will be the same but they'll have different/more abilties.

  Rusque

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7/08/13 9:08:37 AM#6
Originally posted by Elapsed
I just beat the game today on normal mode. I enjoyed except now I see I'm supposed to beat the game 2 more times to unlock the highest difficulty? I liked it, but not enough to play through it again entirely. Seems like a lazy design.

That's old school design. Actually console games still operate this way.

That's just how ARPG's are, you play through each difficulty with "endgame" really just being about decking your character our in the best gear and hitting whatever level cap there might be. It's not like MMO's where you get updated raid content.

If you're not a fan of this type of endgame, I suggest you stay away from ARPG's altogether as that's how they are.

  Alumicard

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7/08/13 9:17:42 AM#7
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Guess you'd better uninstall and start spending your afternoons on the D3 forums complaining since playing the game like everyone else seem to be too much for you.

You just arent there yet. Spent some more time in the mid game of D3 until you realise the end game is flipping + forums when your 10 auction slots are full.

 

OT:

And after you played it 2 more times you farm the same route about 1000 times until you finally give up and go to the end game mentioned above. Or you get lucky with the drops and find one good item during these 1000 runs. Then you become one of the "I dont know what you are complaining about" people.

  Elapsed

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OP  7/08/13 11:38:55 AM#8

I've been reading more about the game. Seems like what I'm probably waiting for are the PvP improvements.

Even though I complained, I'm still playing. The boss battles are more fun in nightmare. They were way too easy on normal.

What I thought was going to happen after I beat it on normal was the top difficulty unlocking and then all of the quests disappearing. So basically it's just a bunch of maps with monsters to kill.

  Rusque

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7/08/13 11:46:07 AM#9

And if Nightmare is too easy for you, you can adjust the MP (monster power) setting before you start any given area. On your chapter select screen you have a drop down for MP selection. Crank it as high as you can handle. You will get better loot and more XP if you can take on a higher MP.

Yes, MP selection is available from level 1 normal. It actually let's geared players powerlevel alts by feeding them OP gear and letting them blast through MP5 on Normal/Nightmare.

  Shadowguy64

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7/08/13 11:59:13 AM#10
Originally posted by Rusque

And if Nightmare is too easy for you, you can adjust the MP (monster power) setting before you start any given area. On your chapter select screen you have a drop down for MP selection. Crank it as high as you can handle. You will get better loot and more XP if you can take on a higher MP.

Yes, MP selection is available from level 1 normal. It actually let's geared players powerlevel alts by feeding them OP gear and letting them blast through MP5 on Normal/Nightmare.

 

Ya, I handed down my Monk one of those weapons with a "level requirement reduces by 14" affixes and he's running through Hell difficulty 1-shotting elites/champions. I should probably increase the MP level for him...but it is fun playing in God mode...heh

 

 

 

  Mtibbs1989

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7/08/13 12:01:53 PM#11
Originally posted by Elapsed
I just beat the game today on normal mode. I enjoyed except now I see I'm supposed to beat the game 2 more times to unlock the highest difficulty? I liked it, but not enough to play through it again entirely. Seems like a lazy design.

 The only thing that's nice about D3 is the art style I'd love to see D2 remade to this art style with nothing else changed about the core mechanics of the game. I'd say D2 would easily become more successful than D3 if they did so.


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  nariusseldon

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7/08/13 1:19:35 PM#12
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Rusque

And if Nightmare is too easy for you, you can adjust the MP (monster power) setting before you start any given area. On your chapter select screen you have a drop down for MP selection. Crank it as high as you can handle. You will get better loot and more XP if you can take on a higher MP.

Yes, MP selection is available from level 1 normal. It actually let's geared players powerlevel alts by feeding them OP gear and letting them blast through MP5 on Normal/Nightmare.

 

Ya, I handed down my Monk one of those weapons with a "level requirement reduces by 14" affixes and he's running through Hell difficulty 1-shotting elites/champions. I should probably increase the MP level for him...but it is fun playing in God mode...heh

This is why the game is so good. Difficulty options.

If you like to face roll mobs, you can at MP0. Personally when i level up my alts, i do MP10 so there is actually a challenge. You need to over-gear quite a bit to play MP10 well.

  Shadowguy64

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7/08/13 2:41:46 PM#13
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Shadowguy64 

Ya, I handed down my Monk one of those weapons with a "level requirement reduces by 14" affixes and he's running through Hell difficulty 1-shotting elites/champions. I should probably increase the MP level for him...but it is fun playing in God mode...heh

This is why the game is so good. Difficulty options.

If you like to face roll mobs, you can at MP0. Personally when i level up my alts, i do MP10 so there is actually a challenge. You need to over-gear quite a bit to play MP10 well.

 

All my items are self found. I use the AH for selling only. It'll be a long, long, time before I can run MP10...if ever.

 

After beating Inferno on MP 0 (Yay!) with my Witch Doctor, I started a new game at MP 1 on Inferno. I can already tell the difference. Mostly from mob density. I'm just going through the game again. I'd prefer to do that than just running the same map over and over and over....even if it isn't as efficient.

 

 

  nariusseldon

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7/09/13 11:08:21 AM#14
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Shadowguy64 

Ya, I handed down my Monk one of those weapons with a "level requirement reduces by 14" affixes and he's running through Hell difficulty 1-shotting elites/champions. I should probably increase the MP level for him...but it is fun playing in God mode...heh

This is why the game is so good. Difficulty options.

If you like to face roll mobs, you can at MP0. Personally when i level up my alts, i do MP10 so there is actually a challenge. You need to over-gear quite a bit to play MP10 well.

 

All my items are self found. I use the AH for selling only. It'll be a long, long, time before I can run MP10...if ever.

 

After beating Inferno on MP 0 (Yay!) with my Witch Doctor, I started a new game at MP 1 on Inferno. I can already tell the difference. Mostly from mob density. I'm just going through the game again. I'd prefer to do that than just running the same map over and over and over....even if it isn't as efficient.

 

 

You are illustrating why the game is so good. It supports choices and different play style. Your playstyle is as different to mine as night to day.

I play the AH to get upgrades (one of the big draw to me). You play self-found (which i believe is quite popular too).

I want to farm efficient (so i run CoTA and Field of Misery) instead of going through the whole story. And i also play alts .. and i farm different places with different class to maximize efficiency.

But again, no one playstyle should be dominant. Yours is as valid as mine. They are just different preferences.

 

  Shadowguy64

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7/09/13 12:13:07 PM#15
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by Rusque

And if Nightmare is too easy for you, you can adjust the MP (monster power) setting before you start any given area. On your chapter select screen you have a drop down for MP selection. Crank it as high as you can handle. You will get better loot and more XP if you can take on a higher MP.

Yes, MP selection is available from level 1 normal. It actually let's geared players powerlevel alts by feeding them OP gear and letting them blast through MP5 on Normal/Nightmare.

 

Ya, I handed down my Monk one of those weapons with a "level requirement reduces by 14" affixes and he's running through Hell difficulty 1-shotting elites/champions. I should probably increase the MP level for him...but it is fun playing in God mode...heh 

 

 

I ended up going with MP 5. So far the difficulty feels "appropriate" for that level. So with that spiffy sword, I can play Hell like I normally would, only with the MP 5 bonuses...yay!

 

That sword will be handed down from alt to alt until they all outgrow it. I'm guessing it'll sell well when I'm done with it.

  nariusseldon

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7/11/13 1:26:39 PM#16
Originally posted by Shadowguy64

That sword will be handed down from alt to alt until they all outgrow it. I'm guessing it'll sell well when I'm done with it.

Probably not :(

Gear has been depreciating in value since day 1 because nothing has been taken out of the game. Something like that probably can still sell for 1M or two .. but that is pretty much change.

It is really hard to make any substantial money (gold or real $$$) unless you have a really really lucky draw, like a mempo with cc, or a echo fury with LS, gem slot and high damage.

 

  Shadowguy64

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7/11/13 1:45:21 PM#17
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Shadowguy64

That sword will be handed down from alt to alt until they all outgrow it. I'm guessing it'll sell well when I'm done with it.

Probably not :(

Gear has been depreciating in value since day 1 because nothing has been taken out of the game. Something like that probably can still sell for 1M or two .. but that is pretty much change.

It is really hard to make any substantial money (gold or real $$$) unless you have a really really lucky draw, like a mempo with cc, or a echo fury with LS, gem slot and high damage. 

 

Don't laugh, but a sale for 1M would be a lot for my account. Remember, I play "self found" style and have only recently beaten Inferno at 0 MP. So all I have is change...lol. (i.e. I don't even have 10M gold. I did spend some on some crafting plans from the vender...otherwise I would be near/over 10M)

  nariusseldon

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7/12/13 11:59:03 AM#18
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Shadowguy64

That sword will be handed down from alt to alt until they all outgrow it. I'm guessing it'll sell well when I'm done with it.

Probably not :(

Gear has been depreciating in value since day 1 because nothing has been taken out of the game. Something like that probably can still sell for 1M or two .. but that is pretty much change.

It is really hard to make any substantial money (gold or real $$$) unless you have a really really lucky draw, like a mempo with cc, or a echo fury with LS, gem slot and high damage. 

 

Don't laugh, but a sale for 1M would be a lot for my account. Remember, I play "self found" style and have only recently beaten Inferno at 0 MP. So all I have is change...lol. (i.e. I don't even have 10M gold. I did spend some on some crafting plans from the vender...otherwise I would be near/over 10M)

Actually that is nice. Gold actually means more to you.

BTW, i like how they add crafting as a means to get good gear, and it also act as a gold sink.

 

  Elapsed

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OP  7/12/13 12:46:29 PM#19
I don't understand the hate of the auction house. I haven't bought anything yet, but I look at D3 like an MMO. If I end up spending around $15 a month in the AH, it's the same as an MMO subscription. Does it end up costing a lot more than $15 a month for good gear? The only thing I feel weird about is putting my money directly in the pocket of another player since I could be supporting a gold farmer or someone who found an exploit.
  dave6660

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7/12/13 9:56:24 PM#20
Originally posted by Elapsed
I already blocked off my calendar from 11-4 tomorrow to make more posts.

You have to get your moneys worth.  D3 fans are easily riled up, they're much more entertaining than the game itself.

"Why so serious?"
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