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  BizkitNL

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6/24/13 5:47:39 AM#21
This topic is full of "think before you type" content.

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  expresso

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6/24/13 5:52:41 AM#22
Originally posted by Mothanos

Jeez how many times this need to get explained.
1 more time for people who have no idea how Blizzard calculates their subs.

Example asian player

1. he doesnt sub - he pays 3 cent per hour.
2. if he plays 1 second in 3 months he gets counted as a full Sub for 3 months.

^Thats how blizzard sub system works.
offcourse they still got a HUGE playerbase :P

It's 1 month not 3 months

  Bossalinie

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6/24/13 7:37:48 AM#23

"Blizzard 9.6 millions subs is skewed and BS..."

"My guess at 4 million subs is what it should be..."

 

What is Irony, Alex?

  Icewhite

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6/24/13 7:40:34 AM#24
Originally posted by Shadoed

There is also the point that is the OP had taken a minute to read the forums he would have noticed that this particular subject has been done to death again, and again, and again.

I think the general theory (and I'll grant it isn't really a coherent theory) goes a little something like this:

"If I can convince whatever remains of the Herd to abandon ship, they might all come to [insert favorite game here]."

Fan-driven schaedenfreude is one theory, anyway. Certainly explains why so many people gleefully look for publication of downturns (subs, income, developers laid off) in games they don't play.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Amana

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6/24/13 8:59:50 AM#25
The topic is not the OP or his motives. Please stick to the actual discussion. 

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  Sovrath

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6/24/13 9:05:10 AM#26
Originally posted by rush1984
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by rush1984

there is no way wow has 9.6 mil subs still, id be surprised if they had even 4 million..

almost every server is dead  and the remaining bulk have all piled up onto a couple servers, that is atleast how it is on eu servers.

 

so where does this number come from because its a lie....or maybe they have lost even more since the last check?

That's a good question. Where did your number come from?

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1260766-WoW-Down-to-9-6-Million-Subscribers/page34

 

google is your friend  

i know  wow lost over a million subs but that was a while back my guessis they have lost much more than that now

Well,. your the one making the assertion that it "doesn't" have x amount of subs so maybe you should have asked your friend google and then posted that in the first place.

Now that we have that settled, can you put together an actual argument with some facts as to why it doesn't have 9.6 million?

Other than "servers are dead!!!!"

  Leethe

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6/24/13 9:11:42 AM#27
Are people worried that WoW is dying? It is, without question. Just be prepared for the longest and most profitable death in the history of western MMOs.

There is NO miracle patch.

95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.

Hope is not a stategy.
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  Ghavrigg

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6/24/13 9:17:49 AM#28
Originally posted by Amana
The topic is not the OP or his motives. Please stick to the actual discussion. 

Just close it. There's no point to it.

  DamonVile

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6/24/13 9:36:38 AM#29
Originally posted by Amana
The topic is not the OP or his motives. Please stick to the actual discussion. 

The actual topic is take wild guesses at how many subs WoW has and then act like you actually know what you're talking about.

It's already been shown he's looking at old info so what is the point in this anymore ?

  Wizardry

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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

6/24/13 9:42:46 AM#30

I used to think the same as servers always seem dead.However remember what most players in Wow do,they run multi accounts and only do dungeons,so you won't see them in the game world.

I like to use 30-50k subs per server as a base for a brand new game.Often times games are reluctant to merge servers because it gives a game a bad image,so this number can even be lower like maybe 15-25k as a game gets older

I believe since the game has been dropping a number closer to 20k would be accurate,especially since certain servers fill a need and are only one of a kind,might only have 5-10k subs.

In the USA alone they have around 130-150 servers give or take,don't feel like adding them up.At 20k per that is 3 million?

Then you have all of Euro Asia,Germany,France those numbers easily double so around another 6 million.So there you have it easily 9 million subs.

 

 

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  niceguy3978

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6/24/13 9:46:25 AM#31
Originally posted by Mothanos

Jeez how many times this need to get explained.
1 more time for people who have no idea how Blizzard calculates their subs.

Example asian player

1. he doesnt sub - he pays 3 cent per hour.
2. if he plays 1 second in 3 months he gets counted as a full Sub for 3 months.

^Thats how blizzard sub system works.
offcourse they still got a HUGE playerbase :P

For those in asian countries, they count a sub as someone who had logged in at some point in the previous 30 days.

  deveilblad

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Joined: 4/25/13
Posts: 178

6/24/13 9:46:59 AM#32
Originally posted by rush1984

there is no way wow has 9.6 mil subs still, id be surprised if they had even 4 million..

almost every server is dead  and the remaining bulk have all piled up onto a couple servers, that is atleast how it is on eu servers.

 

so where does this number come from because its a lie....or maybe they have lost even more since the last check?

Most of their customers are now from Asia ( mostly China ). Also... I'm sorry, but my server is NOT dead, I have a queue to get in EVERY night and on weekends I can wait up to 40 minutes to get in ( Area 52 US )

  Badaboom

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6/24/13 9:49:06 AM#33
Originally posted by Leethe
Are people worried that WoW is dying? It is, without question. Just be prepared for the longest and most profitable death in the history of western MMOs.

Exactly this. 

  Shadoed

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6/24/13 9:57:52 AM#34
Originally posted by Amana
The topic is not the OP or his motives. Please stick to the actual discussion. 

It sorta is though because there are 6-7 discussions about subs, population and 'how dead is your server' stuff in the first few pages of this forum already, not including the other threads that have turned into arguments about the sub numbers in WoW even though they didn't start that way, so why would you raise it again, especially with out of date information.

If the OP was trying to make a serious point, he would have had the latest figures and made an actual stab at quantifying his own 4mill figure, but instead it was the standard 'blurt out a number, throw in my own to kick off an argument and stand back'

So, yes i would say that it is about the OP and his motives rather than a serious discussion about the game or it's subs.

It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.

  nerovipus32

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6/24/13 10:05:39 AM#35
Wow numbers are highly exaggerated.
  PhoenixC13

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6/24/13 10:06:15 AM#36
Well you have to think people like my wife took 6 months to quit and stop paying for her account.  I kept bugging her to stop paying for it,  she would go back for a day or two then stop for a week.  She finally moved on.  There are also a lot of people with 2 accounts.  If WOW has 9mil people or 4mil people they are making money.

  Icewhite

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6/24/13 10:46:30 AM#37
Just one more example of the beneficial effect "lol" has on forums.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Nadia

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6/24/13 10:49:15 AM#38
Originally posted by Bossalinie

"Blizzard 9.6 millions subs is skewed and BS..."

"My guess at 4 million subs is what it should be..."

What is Irony, Alex?

4 million is a good ballpark figure for nonasia

 

we know 5 years ago,  WOW was 55% Asian from a regional breakdown of 10 million

http://wow.joystiq.com/2008/01/22/world-of-warcraft-hits-10-million-subscribers/

 Asia is the biggest market at the moment, with more than 5.5 million players, as compared to North America's 2.5 million and 2 million subscribers in Europe.

 

assuming the regional ratio continues  (big emphasis on assuming)

45% of 8.3 million is 3.74 million for US/Euro

 

Blizzard knows their current regional breakdown but Blizzard no longer give that info for subs

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

6/24/13 10:56:33 AM#39
I remember when it was approaching 14 million.  Well, at least that's what Blizzard claimed.  That was during the ICC days of Wotlk, a better expansion than the last two for sure.  I don't find the number dips surprising.  I just see WoW as epic anymore.  Arthas was the last good villain.
  User Deleted
6/24/13 11:02:25 AM#40
Originally posted by rush1984

there is no way wow has 9.6 mil subs still, id be surprised if they had even 4 million..

almost every server is dead  and the remaining bulk have all piled up onto a couple servers, that is atleast how it is on eu servers.

 

so where does this number come from because its a lie....or maybe they have lost even more since the last check?

You're basing your statement on your perception that the servers are dead?

Yeah, I'm laughing right now.

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