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  Silverbarr

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6/16/13 2:44:55 PM#161
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by atziluth
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Maelzrael
I like how you ignored my post OP. Smooth.

 He seems to be ignoring everyone that is actually showing he is selectively providing information to hide what the system is ACTUALLY doing.

 I am only replying to people who post I see worthy of replying to. I don't know who all post that I did not replay to so repost if you feel it deserves a reply. I am not going to go searching for it.

Yet ignored the post on the first page which has the technical differences with the Xbox1 and PS4. You say you want a discussion, but you are lacking any objectivity. This thread was created with the intent of pushing the Xbox1 and trying to mitigate the known gaps between it and the PS4. All anyone has to do is read through this thread to see the lack of objectivity and defensive posturing going on.

I don't think there is anything wrong with you being a fan of the XBox1... Just don't hide behind pretending you are being objective. You prefer the Xbox1, that should be what this thread is about.  

 

I already know about the Hardware. That does not intrest me at all. What I said is that I will let the games them selves speak and so far Xbox One's games are the ones that are speaking.  Did you not see Titanfall? That game alone had killed my want to play any other FPS. This is what I am talking about.

Wait, so you don't care about hardware? What about all your Cloud talk, and basically most of your OP?

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  Shauneepeak

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6/16/13 2:45:26 PM#162
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by atziluth
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Maelzrael
I like how you ignored my post OP. Smooth.

 He seems to be ignoring everyone that is actually showing he is selectively providing information to hide what the system is ACTUALLY doing.

 I am only replying to people who post I see worthy of replying to. I don't know who all post that I did not replay to so repost if you feel it deserves a reply. I am not going to go searching for it.

Yet ignored the post on the first page which has the technical differences with the Xbox1 and PS4. You say you want a discussion, but you are lacking any objectivity. This thread was created with the intent of pushing the Xbox1 and trying to mitigate the known gaps between it and the PS4. All anyone has to do is read through this thread to see the lack of objectivity and defensive posturing going on.

I don't think there is anything wrong with you being a fan of the XBox1... Just don't hide behind pretending you are being objective. You prefer the Xbox1, that should be what this thread is about.  

 

I already know about the Hardware. That does not intrest me at all. What I said is that I will let the games them selves speak and so far Xbox One's games are the ones that are speaking.  Did you not see Titanfall? That game alone had killed my want to play any other FPS. This is what I am talking about.

Titan Fall graphics wise did not look very next gen at all in my opinion gameplay wise on the other hand that's a different story.

  Jockan

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Joined: 9/03/08
Posts: 4111

 
OP  6/16/13 2:46:04 PM#163
Originally posted by Silverbarr
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Khebeln

And i though being responsible and thoughtful about your finances was part of adulthood.

It looks like we all should do whatever we want then, go rob banks, go waste money in casino and dont worry about tomorrow. Yes yes, that sounds very mature.

 

Who said you are not being responsible and thoughtful about your finances? Just because you buy a game system? LMAO

You either have no real idea of what being an adult requires, and where finances go and why you should be thoughtful of price tags, etc. This whole sentence just screams adolescent.

 

You talk like a person should not be able to buy a $500 game system. Is this the world you live in? If so then I feel sorry for you.

  Silverbarr

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Posts: 324

6/16/13 2:47:48 PM#164
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Silverbarr
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Khebeln

And i though being responsible and thoughtful about your finances was part of adulthood.

It looks like we all should do whatever we want then, go rob banks, go waste money in casino and dont worry about tomorrow. Yes yes, that sounds very mature.

 

Who said you are not being responsible and thoughtful about your finances? Just because you buy a game system? LMAO

You either have no real idea of what being an adult requires, and where finances go and why you should be thoughtful of price tags, etc. This whole sentence just screams adolescent.

 

You talk like a person should not be able to buy a $500 game system. Is this the world you live in? If so then I feel sorry for you.

I can easily afford a console, but I also know that I have plenty of outgoings for my wages in my life which require far more attention than paying extra for an inferior gaming system.

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  Yodi2007

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6/16/13 2:47:49 PM#165
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Yodi2007
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Dihoru

Bottom line: The PS4 can upgrade to have cloud and digital download options, the Xbox 1 cannot upgrade to have offline options.

/end of discussion, no backsies by Xbox 1 troll fans (used the term backsies so they may more easily comprehend that the discussion is futile when the Xbox 1 is nothing like they claim it to be).

 

 

I would rather have a system that's build around it from day 1 then a system that tries to add it on later. Adding things like this on just don't work.

Umm the PS4 is built around Cloud if i remebered since they purchased Gaikai last year. 

 Link?

Here's your link that you just couldn't google sooo much!

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/10/4417082/playstation-4-gaikai-streaming-sony-e3-2013

Its going to be both for PS3 and PS4! 

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  Jockan

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Joined: 9/03/08
Posts: 4111

 
OP  6/16/13 2:48:26 PM#166
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by atziluth
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Maelzrael
I like how you ignored my post OP. Smooth.

 He seems to be ignoring everyone that is actually showing he is selectively providing information to hide what the system is ACTUALLY doing.

 I am only replying to people who post I see worthy of replying to. I don't know who all post that I did not replay to so repost if you feel it deserves a reply. I am not going to go searching for it.

Yet ignored the post on the first page which has the technical differences with the Xbox1 and PS4. You say you want a discussion, but you are lacking any objectivity. This thread was created with the intent of pushing the Xbox1 and trying to mitigate the known gaps between it and the PS4. All anyone has to do is read through this thread to see the lack of objectivity and defensive posturing going on.

I don't think there is anything wrong with you being a fan of the XBox1... Just don't hide behind pretending you are being objective. You prefer the Xbox1, that should be what this thread is about.  

 

I already know about the Hardware. That does not intrest me at all. What I said is that I will let the games them selves speak and so far Xbox One's games are the ones that are speaking.  Did you not see Titanfall? That game alone had killed my want to play any other FPS. This is what I am talking about.

Titan Fall graphics wise did not look very next gen at all in my opinion gameplay wise on the other hand that's a different story.

To me Titanfall looked the best of all games at the show. Forza and  Ryse looks good too from Crytek.

  Jockan

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Joined: 9/03/08
Posts: 4111

 
OP  6/16/13 2:50:48 PM#167
Originally posted by Yodi2007
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Yodi2007
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Dihoru

Bottom line: The PS4 can upgrade to have cloud and digital download options, the Xbox 1 cannot upgrade to have offline options.

/end of discussion, no backsies by Xbox 1 troll fans (used the term backsies so they may more easily comprehend that the discussion is futile when the Xbox 1 is nothing like they claim it to be).

 

 

I would rather have a system that's build around it from day 1 then a system that tries to add it on later. Adding things like this on just don't work.

Umm the PS4 is built around Cloud if i remebered since they purchased Gaikai last year. 

 Link?

Here's your link that you just couldn't google sooo much!

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/10/4417082/playstation-4-gaikai-streaming-sony-e3-2013

Its going to be both for PS3 and PS4! 

 

What I am saying is that its not here today. I dont like the idea of adding stuff on later. I like the idea of it already being in there day one like it is with Xbox One.

  Shauneepeak

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/22/09
Posts: 421

6/16/13 2:51:10 PM#168
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Silverbarr
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Khebeln

And i though being responsible and thoughtful about your finances was part of adulthood.

It looks like we all should do whatever we want then, go rob banks, go waste money in casino and dont worry about tomorrow. Yes yes, that sounds very mature.

 

Who said you are not being responsible and thoughtful about your finances? Just because you buy a game system? LMAO

You either have no real idea of what being an adult requires, and where finances go and why you should be thoughtful of price tags, etc. This whole sentence just screams adolescent.

 

You talk like a person should not be able to buy a $500 game system. Is this the world you live in? If so then I feel sorry for you.

No one is even talking about you buying the console we are all going on about this one specific excerpt.

Originally posted by Mannish

 

I guess I am different because if I see something that I want I am going to get it. Maybe you live your life different but that aint me.

Which is the same thing a little kid, a spoiled 1%er out of touch with reality, or a bank robber/thief would say.

  GreenKnight1776

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Posts: 61

6/16/13 2:51:35 PM#169
There's almost no point in posting anything positive or neutral about Xbox One at this point. Most gamers and apparently the general public have decided it is DOOMED and there is no point bringing it up with them. I'm not sure how you find an audience who just want to know more about it, or <gasp> might possibly like the Xbox One, but they may exist out there somewhere...
  Ginaz

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Joined: 4/01/07
Posts: 1705

6/16/13 2:51:54 PM#170
Originally posted by Mannish
 

 

Did you already post this one and I am sure I gave my reply to what I think about everything you said.

$500 price is something that does not matter to me. I pay for a product if its something that I want. That's just how real adults do things.

As for Hardware I will let the game speak. Microsofts games look better then Sony's games as of right now to me. Of all the games Sony shows nonthing stood out at all. Drive Club looks best so far.

You're earlier posts indicated that you weren't a fanboy for either console and that you didn't have a dog in this fight because you just wanted to inform people of the "facts" about the XBone.  Your above post suggests otherwise. 

BTW, price will be a factor for MANY.  Parents will be buying this for their kids, students in university will be buying one as will people on lower incomes.  Price WILL matter.  While $100 might not be much to you, it is to others.  Its might be enough to buy 2 new games.  And before you go on about how Kinect is included in the price for the XBone and that you would have to pay extra for Move or whatever the PS4 will have, no serious gamer gives a rats ass about waving your arms around like a retarded baboon trying to play a game.  Things like Kinect, Move and Wii are nothing more than gimmicky hot garbage.

I won't be getting either console, at least not at first.  I have a Wii, 360 and a PS4.  All three of them are collecting dust next to my TV.  I last played my 360 and PS4 probably around this time LAST year and I haven't touched my Wii ( hehe) in over 5 years.  I'll wait for some significant price drops before I even consider buying a new console and it probably won't be the XBone.  I really don't like the always online requirement.  At all.  If I want to play Microsoft games offline, I already have a console that can do that....its called an XBox 360.

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  AwDiddums

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6/16/13 2:53:51 PM#171
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Khebeln

In either case its still PS4 >>>> Xbox One 

In price, quality, and features. Not to mention user friendly.

 

Please tell me about the quality and features. What will the PS4 do different then the Xbox One? I just listed what makes the Xbox One different. This is not a troll or fanboy question. I really want to discuss this because even I want to know more.

No matter what, it is still the fact you will need to connect at some time in any 24 hr period to be able to access the gaming part of the Xbox One, this is the part that sticks in my throat.

Yes I would normally buy Microsoft, but I don't always have internet access, I am not going out of my way to climb the wall that Microsoft is putting up around their console just so I can play games in a supposedly secure pirate free enviroment.

I'l wager that because of this anit-piracy idea that hackers will go out of their way to break down the system to prove it can be done, it's like a red flag to a bull.

Currently the xbox and PS have sold roughly the same amount of units worldwide, give or take a few thousand, but this decision combined with the second hand games market will undoubtedly have an impact on microsofts sales.

What will be even worse is when we get to see how much games will cost for the Xbox One, in theory games cost so much because developers tell us that their games are being pirated, that the second hand games market is taking a huge chunk, so seeing as the Xbox is getting rid of both of these options, and having games held in the cloud rather than a physical disk surely this would mean a huge price drop? if the prices are still on par with the PS4 titles then gamers will know they are being ripped off.

 

 

 

  Shauneepeak

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6/16/13 2:54:40 PM#172
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by atziluth
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Maelzrael
I like how you ignored my post OP. Smooth.

 He seems to be ignoring everyone that is actually showing he is selectively providing information to hide what the system is ACTUALLY doing.

 I am only replying to people who post I see worthy of replying to. I don't know who all post that I did not replay to so repost if you feel it deserves a reply. I am not going to go searching for it.

Yet ignored the post on the first page which has the technical differences with the Xbox1 and PS4. You say you want a discussion, but you are lacking any objectivity. This thread was created with the intent of pushing the Xbox1 and trying to mitigate the known gaps between it and the PS4. All anyone has to do is read through this thread to see the lack of objectivity and defensive posturing going on.

I don't think there is anything wrong with you being a fan of the XBox1... Just don't hide behind pretending you are being objective. You prefer the Xbox1, that should be what this thread is about.  

 

I already know about the Hardware. That does not intrest me at all. What I said is that I will let the games them selves speak and so far Xbox One's games are the ones that are speaking.  Did you not see Titanfall? That game alone had killed my want to play any other FPS. This is what I am talking about.

Titan Fall graphics wise did not look very next gen at all in my opinion gameplay wise on the other hand that's a different story.

To me Titanfall looked the best of all games at the show. Forza and  Ryse looks good too from Crytek.

Forza looks great. racing games almost always look amzaing so I never compare them to other games Ryse graphically did look pretty good gameplay wise.... lets just say I hope other games don't follow its example.

I still stand by my statement that Titanfall does not look very impressive both Destiny another Quasi MMO shooter and The Division an actual MMO shooter both look far better graphically.

  forget87

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6/16/13 2:54:46 PM#173
guessing since OP is so biased he didnt watch the gameplay demo Sony did for Destiny. Because Destiny beats Titanfall all DAY!
  Jockan

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OP  6/16/13 2:56:30 PM#174
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Silverbarr
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Khebeln

And i though being responsible and thoughtful about your finances was part of adulthood.

It looks like we all should do whatever we want then, go rob banks, go waste money in casino and dont worry about tomorrow. Yes yes, that sounds very mature.

 

Who said you are not being responsible and thoughtful about your finances? Just because you buy a game system? LMAO

You either have no real idea of what being an adult requires, and where finances go and why you should be thoughtful of price tags, etc. This whole sentence just screams adolescent.

 

You talk like a person should not be able to buy a $500 game system. Is this the world you live in? If so then I feel sorry for you.

No one is even talking about you buying the console we are all going on about this one specific excerpt.

Originally posted by Mannish

 

I guess I am different because if I see something that I want I am going to get it. Maybe you live your life different but that aint me.

Which is the same thing a little kid, a spoiled 1%er out of touch with reality, or a bank robber/thief would say.

 Again, that is how you live your life. Please dont assume everybody lives the way you do. Where I come from people work everyday to have and do the things they want in this world. You cant be serious if you think there is a problem with a person wanting something and then getting it or making it possible for them to get it. That's a part of life. This is the last response I will make this because its just baffling to me and totally off topic.

  Jockan

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OP  6/16/13 2:59:10 PM#175
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by atziluth
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Maelzrael
I like how you ignored my post OP. Smooth.

 He seems to be ignoring everyone that is actually showing he is selectively providing information to hide what the system is ACTUALLY doing.

 I am only replying to people who post I see worthy of replying to. I don't know who all post that I did not replay to so repost if you feel it deserves a reply. I am not going to go searching for it.

Yet ignored the post on the first page which has the technical differences with the Xbox1 and PS4. You say you want a discussion, but you are lacking any objectivity. This thread was created with the intent of pushing the Xbox1 and trying to mitigate the known gaps between it and the PS4. All anyone has to do is read through this thread to see the lack of objectivity and defensive posturing going on.

I don't think there is anything wrong with you being a fan of the XBox1... Just don't hide behind pretending you are being objective. You prefer the Xbox1, that should be what this thread is about.  

 

I already know about the Hardware. That does not intrest me at all. What I said is that I will let the games them selves speak and so far Xbox One's games are the ones that are speaking.  Did you not see Titanfall? That game alone had killed my want to play any other FPS. This is what I am talking about.

Titan Fall graphics wise did not look very next gen at all in my opinion gameplay wise on the other hand that's a different story.

To me Titanfall looked the best of all games at the show. Forza and  Ryse looks good too from Crytek.

Forza looks great. racing games almost always look amzaing so I never compare them to other games Ryse graphically did look pretty good gameplay wise.... lets just say I hope other games don't follow its example.

I still stand by my statement that Titanfall does not look very impressive both Destiny another Quasi MMO shooter and The Division an actual MMO shooter both look far better graphically.

 Destiny looked really good for sure but with Titanfall I guess it was just the whole package. I love mechs so that faced paced gamplay going from mech to on foot just blew me away.

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6/16/13 3:00:36 PM#176
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Khebeln

And i though being responsible and thoughtful about your finances was part of adulthood.

It looks like we all should do whatever we want then, go rob banks, go waste money in casino and dont worry about tomorrow. Yes yes, that sounds very mature.

 

Who said you are not being responsible and thoughtful about your finances? Just because you buy a game system? LMAO

Well it is like this, as an adult you weigh your options and make a rational decision based on all of the factors that effect you. 

In this case we are looking at the Xbox One and the PS4. 

The PS4 is cheaper and has better hardware and graphics. 

The Xbox One is more expensive. 

The PS4 is a typical game console meaning you can buy, sell, and trade games at will with the normal restrictions. 

The Xbox One tries to be a media machine that adds additional restrictions on the buying, selling, and trading of games. This actually decreases the value a bit. You can't simply sell a game on ebay, give it as a gift to a friend, trade it in, or etc. without understanding and working within these new restrictions. This actually decreases the value of the system and yet it still costs more. 

The media center features don't appeal to me because I already have a PC hooked up to each TV in my house that do a great deal more than the Xbox One as far as media devices go. I have an acer that cost about $100 hooked up to my living room TV and it does everything accept play games. So... the media center functions have no appeal for me. 

I have a gaming pc hooked up to the TV in my bedroom that will play almost every game on the Xbox One with the exception of a very few actual exclusives. This PC can do everything the Xbox One can and more. Again... this rules out any advantages I would gain by purchasing an Xbox One. 

Sony will have a similar online cloud setup so... that isn't even a benefit. 

Then there are all the other negatives such as the required internet connection even when playing single player games, the required kinect, etc. 

So, in this case Sony is offering me everything I want and need out of a gaming console. The only thing that leaves Microsoft with to sway me is games. 

Every game I want that will be on the Xbox One will be available on PC and or PS4 with the exception of maybe 2. 

 

As an adult I simply can't justify to myself paying $500 or more on a console thats only going to offer me 2 games I can't get elsewhere.

The PS4 offers several games I am looking forward to (Which are available on multiple systems) and even has a few exclusives. It is $100 cheaper, has no unusual restrictions, has better hardware, offers everything a gamer needs from a gaming system and more. 

 

As a rational adult, there really is only one logical choice. 

 

You have stated there are 2 games you are looking forward to that are Xbox One exclusives, you've also stated you have a gaming PC. 

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6/16/13 3:01:15 PM#177
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Yodi2007

Here's your link that you just couldn't google sooo much!

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/10/4417082/playstation-4-gaikai-streaming-sony-e3-2013

Its going to be both for PS3 and PS4! 

 

What I am saying is that its not here today. I dont like the idea of adding stuff on later. I like the idea of it already being in there day one like it is with Xbox One.

Sorry I just got a chuckle out of reading this....I guess you don't like PCs either? Anyway carry on.

P.S. You won't have to add cloud support to PS4, it will be as easy as signing up for it just like you would with X1.


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  GrayGhost79

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6/16/13 3:03:22 PM#178
Originally posted by Ramonski7
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Yodi2007

Here's your link that you just couldn't google sooo much!

http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/10/4417082/playstation-4-gaikai-streaming-sony-e3-2013

Its going to be both for PS3 and PS4! 

 

What I am saying is that its not here today. I dont like the idea of adding stuff on later. I like the idea of it already being in there day one like it is with Xbox One.

Sorry I just got a chuckle out of reading this....I guess you don't like PCs either? Anyway carry on.

P.S. You won't have to add cloud support to PS4, it will be as easy as signing up for it just like you would with X1.

No he doesn't like PC's lol. Read back through and you'll see that he said he would rather play Titanfall on Xbox One even though he supposedly has a gaming PC lol! 

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6/16/13 3:04:31 PM#179
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Silverbarr
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Khebeln

And i though being responsible and thoughtful about your finances was part of adulthood.

It looks like we all should do whatever we want then, go rob banks, go waste money in casino and dont worry about tomorrow. Yes yes, that sounds very mature.

 

Who said you are not being responsible and thoughtful about your finances? Just because you buy a game system? LMAO

You either have no real idea of what being an adult requires, and where finances go and why you should be thoughtful of price tags, etc. This whole sentence just screams adolescent.

 

You talk like a person should not be able to buy a $500 game system. Is this the world you live in? If so then I feel sorry for you.

I don't think that's the case. Us Pc gamers spend more money on our Pc`s than most people on tuning their sport cars. 

Money is not the issue, i simply chose the BEST hardware, with least extra baggage to bug me about it latter. 

Be it consoles or PC. I have the money to spend and i love to twink my gear.

But that don't means i'm willing to throw my money away just because i can. Before i buy anything i research the product thoroughly.


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6/16/13 3:07:10 PM#180
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by atziluth
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Maelzrael
I like how you ignored my post OP. Smooth.

 He seems to be ignoring everyone that is actually showing he is selectively providing information to hide what the system is ACTUALLY doing.

 I am only replying to people who post I see worthy of replying to. I don't know who all post that I did not replay to so repost if you feel it deserves a reply. I am not going to go searching for it.

Yet ignored the post on the first page which has the technical differences with the Xbox1 and PS4. You say you want a discussion, but you are lacking any objectivity. This thread was created with the intent of pushing the Xbox1 and trying to mitigate the known gaps between it and the PS4. All anyone has to do is read through this thread to see the lack of objectivity and defensive posturing going on.

I don't think there is anything wrong with you being a fan of the XBox1... Just don't hide behind pretending you are being objective. You prefer the Xbox1, that should be what this thread is about.  

I already know about the Hardware. That does not intrest me at all. What I said is that I will let the games them selves speak and so far Xbox One's games are the ones that are speaking.  Did you not see Titanfall? That game alone had killed my want to play any other FPS. This is what I am talking about.

You missed my point. You are claiming to be objective yet you are clearly biased. That is perfectly fine, but don't pretend to be something you are not. You like the Xbox1 and think it is a superior system to the PS4. Your opinion is counter the the masses, which is not to say it is wrong since it is an opinion. However, you are in this thread trying to convince others that your opinion has some factual context to it and that is intellectually dishonest. Embrace your Xbox1 fanboy, but don't get defensive when others question your reasoning. This whole thread is subjective and you points are no more valid or invalid than those raised to counter them. You clearly do not want a discussion as much as you want to find like minded people to share your excitement for the Xbox1. Again, perfectly fine, but you chose the wrong venue. 

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