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  GrayGhost79

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6/16/13 2:13:52 PM#81
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Milander
Originally posted by Khebeln

In either case its still PS4 >>>> Xbox One 

In price, quality, and features. Not to mention user friendly.

How do you figure the price is better?

PS4 399.99 XB1 499.99.....

End result...the same. Why? Because the PS4 With the Eye is 499.99 *or just about* With the XB1 the kinect with use to be a 99 dollar addition comes standard.

The quality? Of what? The parts inside? Same chips made by the same company with minor differences. So are you saying the AMD chips in the PS4 are higher quality than the XB1? Doubtfull.

Features, overhead costs, games, bells and whistles? Who knows, they can say whatever they want, the systems arent even at the stores yet. Things change from E3 to release.

But I will say one thing,Sony said they made the PS3 capable of running Linux and they were not going to take that away....Look what happened?

Another cost people seem to miss on the PS4, the 'extra' 70 or whatever bucks a year you're going to have to pay for a PSN+ account. I still have people crying FOUL! when I bring up that with the ps4 to play online you need a plus membership.

For me, I'm happy with my 360 and my ps3 for now. I will keep my eye on both and hopefully closer to release when they actually show something that could NOT just have been a PC running 'XB1-Fake"dows...or "PS4dos"

So keep an open mind, and a closed wallet....Not a closed mind and an open wallet, like THEY want you :)

 

Now in regards to the price the new Playstation Eye it has already been confirmed to have a price of $59.99 so that is cheaper also PS+ is cheaper then Gold membership so it is cheaper to use a PS4 online in the long run also while this defeats the purpose of many of the features should a person solely want to play single-player games the PS4 would again be cheaper due to not requiring a broadband internet connection which is at a minimum around $30 and upwards of $100 a month.

PS+ is at the most $17 a month or $50 for a year also if you time your purchases correctly you can usually get a few months tacked on to your purchase for free I got 4 months a $20 value for free with my 1 year membership and my friend through the smart use of offers was able to get a whole extra year for free you also get access to random recently released blockbuster games this month they are Xcom, Uncharted 3, and Saints Row 3 later this month.

So yes price wise the PS4 is cheaper without a doubt also spec wise Jack Tretton came out and said it directly at the camera during his Geoff Keighley E3 interview that the PS4 is without a doubt the most powerful game console and if anyone doubts this they can feel free to ask any third-party developer.

 

 

As for more powerful I will have to wait and let the games speak for them selves. I saw both shows and Microsofts games looked way better to me. Remedy seems to think different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rly8s1ZkkL4&list=FLksoyDFtH--Rg7IaTzzU_gw

 

Um.... Really? All we have seen of Quantic Break have been CGI cut scenes that does not prove anything the Xbox 360 CGI wise could make scenes that look better then next gen "gameplay" key there being Gameplay I do not remember seeing any gameplay for any of the next gen X1 exclusives aside from Titan Fall and Killer Instinct most of the games shown at the X1 show were multi-platform.

 

Then form your opinion on what you saw from both Sony and Microsoft.

Well seeing as Titan Fall is the only X1 exclusive I can go off of both the Killzone Shadowfall and Infamous Second Son gameplay looked far better though Titan Fall is a quasi MMO though I can all shoot that down though with a Multiplatform title "In my opinion" The Division was by far the best looking game at E3 and that is an actual full blown MMO and is a multiplatform off all things, though the gameplay shown was being run on the PS4 we have not seen X1 gameplay yet.

Titan Fall isn't even an Xbone exclusive lol... 

 

It will be on Xbox 360, Xbox One, and PC... http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/titanfall-coming-xbox-one-360-pc-2014-6C10261389

  mayanking

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Joined: 4/30/13
Posts: 128

6/16/13 2:13:53 PM#82
Originally posted by Milander
Originally posted by mayanking
Xbox one is a big mmorpg. we rely on its internet.. What happens when we get a xbox 2 or 3 and the servers for xbox one close? whelp 1k usd in games and console all gone.. No thank you i  will go to sony now because atleast when ps5 comes out i can still go play my ps4 and when i have kids show them how gaming was as i own all the consoles the only one i don't own is a ps3. Its pure ignorance for the execuitive of xbox to come out and basicaly say no net? fuckyou stick with are shity product.....   More then half the world doesn't have internet.... This might have worked in maybe 20-30years But now? no.... Don't buy a xbox if anything wait a fewmonths. If your buying a xbox then your basicaly saying this is how you want future gaming to be. DRM. Soon the movies and media companies will see what xbox did and copy there ways... Yeah... I'm going to ride out with ps4 unless xbox fixes these issues i don't wanna spend 1kusd on games only for the xbox one service to close down and lose everything.

 

So you spend 1k in the 'life cycle' of a system....So that's what?  7 years? I think that was the 'life cycle' of the Xbox. Not bad eh? Hours and hours of enjoyment over 7 years for 1k....For a PC user that 1k is...one graphics card upgrade for maybe a year of life? At that time, I'm sure they will do something...'final patch' to make the check all internal? Make the XB2 legacy? Who knows, that is AGES away in the "Grand Plan" :)

 

yes but atleast with any system but the xbox one i can go back and replay these beautiful games :)

  Jockan

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Joined: 9/03/08
Posts: 4243

 
OP  6/16/13 2:14:38 PM#83
Originally posted by Drakynn
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Drakynn

Subjective.

I found The Order 1866 and Infamous:Second Sons more compelling than any of the truly exclusive(not coming to PC) games M$ showcased.

I am a PC gamer and don't own a xbox 360 or PS3 but when I look at exclusive IPs I find things like Infamous,God of War,Uncharted and Last of Us more compelling than Gears of War and Halo.But again that's just me and subjective.

 For me I find games like Halo, Alan Wake, Gears Of War and Fable better games then Uncharted, God Of War and Infamous. I watch my son play those games all the time and if I was still maybe 16 I probably would too. Too bad those days are long gone.

That's certainly your prerogative though the insinuation that Halo and Gears are somehow more mature than Uncharted and Infamous....though I God of War can be kind of juvenile I can agree there.Alan Wake Fable I played on PC and didn't find Fable that mature either.

Also listing Remedy as a source on why Xbox is a superior platform is like listing Naughty Dog as a source for why ps is superior both are bought and paid for by the respective platform.

 

Never said those games where immature but rather I have been playing those sytems of game since I was a kid so now those types of games just don't intrest me.

I never said any one was more superior. What I am saying is that we will have to wait and let the games show us. Like I said I have a PS3. I purchased the Uncharted / Infamous bundle and have played everything PS3 has exclusive and don't see anything special. I give The Last Of Us credit because that truly looks like a masterpiece but that's about it.

  duggyfr3sh123

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Joined: 4/19/13
Posts: 102

6/16/13 2:15:16 PM#84
Originally posted by Khebeln

Ahh this thing ? Yeah i read it a while ago, but didint want to bring it here. But tbh is it surprising at all ?

 

shouldn't be a shock. both funcom and EA have employed this tactic on this very forum several times. FC still doing it too.

  superscott99

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Joined: 9/18/10
Posts: 13

6/16/13 2:15:49 PM#85
Spin it how you will. Microsoft has chosen investors over players with these decisions, which is a sad indicator of how things are headed in America in general. Profits>people. :(
  Maelzrael

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Joined: 5/15/12
Posts: 317

I like games.

6/16/13 2:16:09 PM#86

The seems like such a paid advertisement thread.. but I'll play along just in case.

I currently have signed a petition and joined a few facebook pages to Boycott Xbox One.

I have read that Microsoft has sold their privacy rights to the government(Homeland security/NSA) and that the Kinect will need to be hooked up to the "always on" feature in order for your log in to be verified. This could mean that the government would have audio and visual access to a large portion of the countries living rooms. If you take this information and combine it with the information you can find online about our Presidents stance on our privacy, well you've got quite a conspiracy theory to think about anyways..

I also do not agree with shutting down the mom and pop game stores with the inability to trade games.  Gamestop can diaf, but these local shops that sell old consoles and games will eventually have nothing to sell with the cloud system in place. The corporations and the stockholders already make enough money off of us as it is, why do they need to make more?

Xbox one is just the perfect example that with Capitalism, the rich will always get richer at the expense of the less fortunate.

Ps4 on the other hand is doing things the way they should be..atm at least. I dislike Sony quite a bit, but for now, if I do buy a console, it will be a PS4, a Wii U, or nothing.

  Jockan

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Joined: 9/03/08
Posts: 4243

 
OP  6/16/13 2:16:45 PM#87
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Milander
Originally posted by Khebeln

In either case its still PS4 >>>> Xbox One 

In price, quality, and features. Not to mention user friendly.

How do you figure the price is better?

PS4 399.99 XB1 499.99.....

End result...the same. Why? Because the PS4 With the Eye is 499.99 *or just about* With the XB1 the kinect with use to be a 99 dollar addition comes standard.

The quality? Of what? The parts inside? Same chips made by the same company with minor differences. So are you saying the AMD chips in the PS4 are higher quality than the XB1? Doubtfull.

Features, overhead costs, games, bells and whistles? Who knows, they can say whatever they want, the systems arent even at the stores yet. Things change from E3 to release.

But I will say one thing,Sony said they made the PS3 capable of running Linux and they were not going to take that away....Look what happened?

Another cost people seem to miss on the PS4, the 'extra' 70 or whatever bucks a year you're going to have to pay for a PSN+ account. I still have people crying FOUL! when I bring up that with the ps4 to play online you need a plus membership.

For me, I'm happy with my 360 and my ps3 for now. I will keep my eye on both and hopefully closer to release when they actually show something that could NOT just have been a PC running 'XB1-Fake"dows...or "PS4dos"

So keep an open mind, and a closed wallet....Not a closed mind and an open wallet, like THEY want you :)

 

Now in regards to the price the new Playstation Eye it has already been confirmed to have a price of $59.99 so that is cheaper also PS+ is cheaper then Gold membership so it is cheaper to use a PS4 online in the long run also while this defeats the purpose of many of the features should a person solely want to play single-player games the PS4 would again be cheaper due to not requiring a broadband internet connection which is at a minimum around $30 and upwards of $100 a month.

PS+ is at the most $17 a month or $50 for a year also if you time your purchases correctly you can usually get a few months tacked on to your purchase for free I got 4 months a $20 value for free with my 1 year membership and my friend through the smart use of offers was able to get a whole extra year for free you also get access to random recently released blockbuster games this month they are Xcom, Uncharted 3, and Saints Row 3 later this month.

So yes price wise the PS4 is cheaper without a doubt also spec wise Jack Tretton came out and said it directly at the camera during his Geoff Keighley E3 interview that the PS4 is without a doubt the most powerful game console and if anyone doubts this they can feel free to ask any third-party developer.

 

 

As for more powerful I will have to wait and let the games speak for them selves. I saw both shows and Microsofts games looked way better to me. Remedy seems to think different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rly8s1ZkkL4&list=FLksoyDFtH--Rg7IaTzzU_gw

 

Um.... Really? All we have seen of Quantic Break have been CGI cut scenes that does not prove anything the Xbox 360 CGI wise could make scenes that look better then next gen "gameplay" key there being Gameplay I do not remember seeing any gameplay for any of the next gen X1 exclusives aside from Titan Fall and Killer Instinct most of the games shown at the X1 show were multi-platform.

 

Then form your opinion on what you saw from both Sony and Microsoft.

Well seeing as Titan Fall is the only X1 exclusive I can go off of both the Killzone Shadowfall and Infamous Second Son gameplay looked far better though Titan Fall is a quasi MMO though I can all shoot that down though with a Multiplatform title "In my opinion" The Division was by far the best looking game at E3 and that is an actual full blown MMO and is a multiplatform off all things, though the gameplay shown was being run on the PS4 we have not seen X1 gameplay yet.

Titan Fall isn't even an Xbone exclusive lol... 

 

It will be on Xbox 360, Xbox One, and PC... http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/titanfall-coming-xbox-one-360-pc-2014-6C10261389

 

But it wont be on PS4. I have a kick ass pc but if Titanfall on Xbox One has mouse / keyboard support I will be getting in on Xbox One. PS4 players wont be able to do this.

  Yodi2007

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Joined: 6/30/12
Posts: 167

6/16/13 2:17:30 PM#88
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Dihoru

Bottom line: The PS4 can upgrade to have cloud and digital download options, the Xbox 1 cannot upgrade to have offline options.

/end of discussion, no backsies by Xbox 1 troll fans (used the term backsies so they may more easily comprehend that the discussion is futile when the Xbox 1 is nothing like they claim it to be).

 

 

I would rather have a system that's build around it from day 1 then a system that tries to add it on later. Adding things like this on just don't work.

Umm the PS4 is built around Cloud if i remebered since they purchased Gaikai last year. 

Below is where we can disscuss and come up with new ideas for Sandparks!

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5164689#5164689

  megarax

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6/16/13 2:17:59 PM#89
Titanfall could be a timed exclusive for PC/XBOX.
  Jockan

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Posts: 4243

 
OP  6/16/13 2:18:17 PM#90
Originally posted by Yodi2007
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Dihoru

Bottom line: The PS4 can upgrade to have cloud and digital download options, the Xbox 1 cannot upgrade to have offline options.

/end of discussion, no backsies by Xbox 1 troll fans (used the term backsies so they may more easily comprehend that the discussion is futile when the Xbox 1 is nothing like they claim it to be).

 

 

I would rather have a system that's build around it from day 1 then a system that tries to add it on later. Adding things like this on just don't work.

Umm the PS4 is built around Cloud if i remebered since they purchased Gaikai last year. 

 Link?

  Shauneepeak

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Posts: 426

6/16/13 2:18:38 PM#91
Originally posted by Milander
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Milander
Originally posted by Khebeln

In either case its still PS4 >>>> Xbox One 

In price, quality, and features. Not to mention user friendly.

How do you figure the price is better?

PS4 399.99 XB1 499.99.....

End result...the same. Why? Because the PS4 With the Eye is 499.99 *or just about* With the XB1 the kinect with use to be a 99 dollar addition comes standard.

The quality? Of what? The parts inside? Same chips made by the same company with minor differences. So are you saying the AMD chips in the PS4 are higher quality than the XB1? Doubtfull.

Features, overhead costs, games, bells and whistles? Who knows, they can say whatever they want, the systems arent even at the stores yet. Things change from E3 to release.

But I will say one thing,Sony said they made the PS3 capable of running Linux and they were not going to take that away....Look what happened?

Another cost people seem to miss on the PS4, the 'extra' 70 or whatever bucks a year you're going to have to pay for a PSN+ account. I still have people crying FOUL! when I bring up that with the ps4 to play online you need a plus membership.

For me, I'm happy with my 360 and my ps3 for now. I will keep my eye on both and hopefully closer to release when they actually show something that could NOT just have been a PC running 'XB1-Fake"dows...or "PS4dos"

So keep an open mind, and a closed wallet....Not a closed mind and an open wallet, like THEY want you :)

 

Now in regards to the price the new Playstation Eye it has already been confirmed to have a price of $59.99 so that is cheaper also PS+ is cheaper then Gold membership so it is cheaper to use a PS4 online in the long run also while this defeats the purpose of many of the features should a person solely want to play single-player games the PS4 would again be cheaper due to not requiring a broadband internet connection which is at a minimum around $30 and upwards of $100 a month.

PS+ is at the most $17 a month or $50 for a year also if you time your purchases correctly you can usually get a few months tacked on to your purchase for free I got 4 months a $20 value for free with my 1 year membership and my friend through the smart use of offers was able to get a whole extra year for free you also get access to random recently released blockbuster games this month they are Xcom, Uncharted 3, and Saints Row 3 later this month.

So yes price wise the PS4 is cheaper without a doubt also spec wise Jack Tretton came out and said it directly at the camera during his Geoff Keighley E3 interview that the PS4 is without a doubt the most powerful game console and if anyone doubts this they can feel free to ask any third-party developer.

Actually Local Gamtstop has it listed at 69.99, guess everything is more expensive in Canada. (shrugs) Still, price is about the same. So the "OMG WHy is it so expensive for XB1?!?!!?" that exploded out when the price was announced, see, it really isnt, you just cant NOT get the kinect :)

As for Sony's "Please stay with us, here take this crappy games free, as long as you give us your moneys!" isn't such a big thing.....M$ is doing it too. :) So really, no the price of the PS4 isnt cheaper without a doubt...As for Jack's quote, I've seen the spec's from AMD (whistles innocently) they can SAY whatever they want, no one is going to waste air calling him on it.

Oh man that really sucks I live 3hrs from the Canadian border =D I don't see why there is still such a  price difference when the the Canadian dollar keeps bouncing back and forth between $0.98-1.05 American.

Also yes Microsoft has just started giving out free games but they all have been around 4 years or so old when Sony actually hands out free games that are as little as a few months old and always has a minim of 18 a month 12 for PS3/PS4 and 6 for Vita and this has been confirmed to continue for next gen during Sony's PS Home E3 PS+ slideshow.

Also yeah I agree the difference is not that big but it is at least 20% and look how much people pay for a 20% increase for a CPU/GPU....

  Kendane

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6/16/13 2:20:42 PM#92

The only game I am disappointed that I can't get without the XBox One is Dead Rising 3, since it sounds like a pretty cool game. But you know, with all the shitty requirements for the new XBox, screw it, I can live without Dead Rising. Besides if XBox One shares a similar fate as the Dreamcast, I can probably get Dead Rising 3 anyways, at the very least on PC. But to be frank, the restrictions on the system are just stupid. All it tells me is Microsoft is greedy and couldn't possibly care less about the gamers even if their lives depended on it, so why bother with it.

I imagine the overall quality of both systems will be just about the same, just like it was for the 360 and PS3, and I just get the benefit of not having DRM, being able to share games, etc with the PS4. To be honest there is no reason whatsoever to get the XBox One unless you really REALLY want to play Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, or maybe Foroza 5. 

Lastly OP, no offense but you kind of sound like you're a Microsoft employee trying to sell the XBox One to us, which if that's the case is actually awesome, please answer our questions so maybe I can find a reason to get one. Just get a mod here to verify it for us and you can do a Q and A, relay some concerns back to Microsoft so the response to things like always having to be online aren't just "LAWLZ DEN GIT A 360 SCRUB!"

  zevian

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Joined: 1/06/07
Posts: 393

6/16/13 2:21:07 PM#93

I intend to buy a PS4 this cycle.

 

 i dont want a console spying on me ( i already use windows 8 for that).

 

I can plug my xbox control into my pc and have an xbox.  ( ps4 gives me a different gaming experience then).

 

I have a htpc that is already my media center.

 

The cloud is not an answer for anything, what if the cloud servers go down then your double screwed.

  Quicksand

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Joined: 4/22/06
Posts: 605

6/16/13 2:21:49 PM#94
Originally posted by Mannish

This is for people who want to know more about the Xbox One.

 

There Xbox One is a digital media system. Its not like the PS4 which is still a physical media system. It is based around cloud computing. When you buy a game you will install it do your system and an image will also be saved to the cloud. This is how you can log in to any system anywhere and play your games. This is why things like the always on and 24 hour check are features of the Xbox One.

24 hour Online Check: This does not mean that your console has to be always connected but it must connect at least once every 24 hours. This is mainly to protect against piracy and to allow your games to always be updated. This is cloud computing so they do not want somebody to take a Xbox One, hack it and then connect it back to there servers. This is simply for protection. No more waiting on patch 2.2 that's coming in 2 weeks. By being always connected the content will be constantly added. Imagine getting up the next morning and turning on your system to find that your Killer Instinct has 2 new character or your Call Of Duty has 5 new maps. If for some reason your internet goes down then you can use your cell phone's internet to do the online check. If you for some reason you still cant do that and fail to allow the system to check then you gaming will be blocked but you still can access all media. I am unsure how you will unlock your system. Does it unlock when you connect again and does the check or do you have to contact Microsoft?

By always on all they are saying is that even when you turn your system off it will not  be completely off but rather in a very low power sleep state to allow the constant xbox live connection for content updates and 24 hour check.

People keep saying that I don't own my games but they need to know that its digital and not phyical. By selling Xbox One games as digital download and disc you actually can sell or trade  but not to places like GameStop. I can buy a game and don't like and then turn around and sell  or trade it to my friend at work but its a 1 time thing. My friend at work who got the game from me cannot sell it to his cousin or anybody else because it wont work. So for me if I was to buy a used game from somebody it would have to be for a really great price knowing that game is going to be mine forever and I cant sell or trade it. They are working on being able to trade them back in to certain retailers but I am still looking for more info on that one.

The developers are the ones asking Microsoft and Sony for this. The want people to buy games from then and not from places like Gamestop where they don't get any revenue from. If a Developer has a plan to make this 100 Million doller AAA title do they put in PS4 where they may sell 5Million copies which half of them end up at Gamestop for them to resell where they dont get anything from or do I go with Xbox One where I can sell 10 Million because the is no used market so everything will come from us. Microsoft wants to make digital gaming like Steam where there are always games at good prices but without the developers being happy this cannot happen.

 

You can create an Family Circle on your account and allow any 10 people access to your entire game library. By an image of your game being stored on the cloud this is how a person can play your library or how you can log on to any Xbox One and play your games. Only downside is that the person will have to be on your friends list for 30 days. I think they should change this to 24 hours since the system does a 24 hour check. If you have a really good friends list you may never have to even buy a game but just play games that your friends own and your friend can be anywhere the world. There is no disc required and you do not have to pay. This is a very good feature of the Xbox One.

 

Foraz 5:

Xbox One is based around cloud computing will be something really different. Forza 5 for example will not have computer AI. You will be racing against real peoples intelligence called drivatar. As you play your Drivatar will being made by how you play. When you log off from Forza you wont be there but your drivatar will still be in game racing for you. When you log back on you may find your drivatar has earned you money or new cars. This is where the always on benefits you.

Sunset Overdrive;

Open world multiplayer shooter where the developers are going to build the world on feedback from the players. Content will be constantly added to the world at all times. MMO maybe? Its too soon to say right now but again this is the where the always on comes in to play. Developers can now build worlds in game.

This is what  the Xbox One is. Its the first digital console we have ever had. Microsofts only problem is that they did not say any of this at E3.

 

All info can be found here.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one

 

I gather you are trying to sell everyone on the new XBox. However, everything in your post just made me not want an XBox. All of the attempted selling points you listed are all negatives.

 

Maybe I missed your point.

 

PS4 for me

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  Silverbarr

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Joined: 12/23/07
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6/16/13 2:21:55 PM#95
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Yodi2007
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Dihoru

Bottom line: The PS4 can upgrade to have cloud and digital download options, the Xbox 1 cannot upgrade to have offline options.

/end of discussion, no backsies by Xbox 1 troll fans (used the term backsies so they may more easily comprehend that the discussion is futile when the Xbox 1 is nothing like they claim it to be).

 

 

I would rather have a system that's build around it from day 1 then a system that tries to add it on later. Adding things like this on just don't work.

Umm the PS4 is built around Cloud if i remebered since they purchased Gaikai last year. 

 Link?

Bloody hell, you are sitting on a web browser with google a mere click away - do your own damn research with the Sony/Gakai cloud service you darn Xbone obsessed numpty, hell you did the Xbone research - no matter how one sided, so why not do the same amount for PS4? 

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  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
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6/16/13 2:23:14 PM#96
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Milander
Originally posted by Khebeln

In either case its still PS4 >>>> Xbox One 

In price, quality, and features. Not to mention user friendly.

How do you figure the price is better?

PS4 399.99 XB1 499.99.....

End result...the same. Why? Because the PS4 With the Eye is 499.99 *or just about* With the XB1 the kinect with use to be a 99 dollar addition comes standard.

The quality? Of what? The parts inside? Same chips made by the same company with minor differences. So are you saying the AMD chips in the PS4 are higher quality than the XB1? Doubtfull.

Features, overhead costs, games, bells and whistles? Who knows, they can say whatever they want, the systems arent even at the stores yet. Things change from E3 to release.

But I will say one thing,Sony said they made the PS3 capable of running Linux and they were not going to take that away....Look what happened?

Another cost people seem to miss on the PS4, the 'extra' 70 or whatever bucks a year you're going to have to pay for a PSN+ account. I still have people crying FOUL! when I bring up that with the ps4 to play online you need a plus membership.

For me, I'm happy with my 360 and my ps3 for now. I will keep my eye on both and hopefully closer to release when they actually show something that could NOT just have been a PC running 'XB1-Fake"dows...or "PS4dos"

So keep an open mind, and a closed wallet....Not a closed mind and an open wallet, like THEY want you :)

 

Now in regards to the price the new Playstation Eye it has already been confirmed to have a price of $59.99 so that is cheaper also PS+ is cheaper then Gold membership so it is cheaper to use a PS4 online in the long run also while this defeats the purpose of many of the features should a person solely want to play single-player games the PS4 would again be cheaper due to not requiring a broadband internet connection which is at a minimum around $30 and upwards of $100 a month.

PS+ is at the most $17 a month or $50 for a year also if you time your purchases correctly you can usually get a few months tacked on to your purchase for free I got 4 months a $20 value for free with my 1 year membership and my friend through the smart use of offers was able to get a whole extra year for free you also get access to random recently released blockbuster games this month they are Xcom, Uncharted 3, and Saints Row 3 later this month.

So yes price wise the PS4 is cheaper without a doubt also spec wise Jack Tretton came out and said it directly at the camera during his Geoff Keighley E3 interview that the PS4 is without a doubt the most powerful game console and if anyone doubts this they can feel free to ask any third-party developer.

 

 

As for more powerful I will have to wait and let the games speak for them selves. I saw both shows and Microsofts games looked way better to me. Remedy seems to think different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rly8s1ZkkL4&list=FLksoyDFtH--Rg7IaTzzU_gw

 

Um.... Really? All we have seen of Quantic Break have been CGI cut scenes that does not prove anything the Xbox 360 CGI wise could make scenes that look better then next gen "gameplay" key there being Gameplay I do not remember seeing any gameplay for any of the next gen X1 exclusives aside from Titan Fall and Killer Instinct most of the games shown at the X1 show were multi-platform.

 

Then form your opinion on what you saw from both Sony and Microsoft.

Well seeing as Titan Fall is the only X1 exclusive I can go off of both the Killzone Shadowfall and Infamous Second Son gameplay looked far better though Titan Fall is a quasi MMO though I can all shoot that down though with a Multiplatform title "In my opinion" The Division was by far the best looking game at E3 and that is an actual full blown MMO and is a multiplatform off all things, though the gameplay shown was being run on the PS4 we have not seen X1 gameplay yet.

Titan Fall isn't even an Xbone exclusive lol... 

 

It will be on Xbox 360, Xbox One, and PC... http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/titanfall-coming-xbox-one-360-pc-2014-6C10261389

 

But it wont be on PS4. I have a kick ass pc but if Titanfall on Xbox One has mouse / keyboard support I will be getting in on Xbox One. PS4 players wont be able to do this.

Why in the world would I get Titanfall on Xbox One when my computer has much better specs and I don't worry about "If" it has keyboard and mouse support. Besides all that my gaming headset is better than any Xbox one, my keyboard is a gaming keyboard so I would lose my software, I'd lose my Razer Nagas functionality. Playing on the Xbox One when I can play on my PC is a huge downgrade. I'd come out cheaper and better by building a PC with the Xbox Ones specs if I didn't have a system that could handle Titanfall. 

My Plan is to continue PC gaming and snag a PS4. An Xbox One and a PC is a bit redundant in my opinion. The Xbox One seems to be doing its best to be a PC wannabe lol. 

  Milander

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Joined: 11/27/04
Posts: 133

6/16/13 2:23:21 PM#97
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Milander
Originally posted by Khebeln

In either case its still PS4 >>>> Xbox One 

In price, quality, and features. Not to mention user friendly.

How do you figure the price is better?

PS4 399.99 XB1 499.99.....

End result...the same. Why? Because the PS4 With the Eye is 499.99 *or just about* With the XB1 the kinect with use to be a 99 dollar addition comes standard.

The quality? Of what? The parts inside? Same chips made by the same company with minor differences. So are you saying the AMD chips in the PS4 are higher quality than the XB1? Doubtfull.

Features, overhead costs, games, bells and whistles? Who knows, they can say whatever they want, the systems arent even at the stores yet. Things change from E3 to release.

But I will say one thing,Sony said they made the PS3 capable of running Linux and they were not going to take that away....Look what happened?

Another cost people seem to miss on the PS4, the 'extra' 70 or whatever bucks a year you're going to have to pay for a PSN+ account. I still have people crying FOUL! when I bring up that with the ps4 to play online you need a plus membership.

For me, I'm happy with my 360 and my ps3 for now. I will keep my eye on both and hopefully closer to release when they actually show something that could NOT just have been a PC running 'XB1-Fake"dows...or "PS4dos"

So keep an open mind, and a closed wallet....Not a closed mind and an open wallet, like THEY want you :)

 

Now in regards to the price the new Playstation Eye it has already been confirmed to have a price of $59.99 so that is cheaper also PS+ is cheaper then Gold membership so it is cheaper to use a PS4 online in the long run also while this defeats the purpose of many of the features should a person solely want to play single-player games the PS4 would again be cheaper due to not requiring a broadband internet connection which is at a minimum around $30 and upwards of $100 a month.

PS+ is at the most $17 a month or $50 for a year also if you time your purchases correctly you can usually get a few months tacked on to your purchase for free I got 4 months a $20 value for free with my 1 year membership and my friend through the smart use of offers was able to get a whole extra year for free you also get access to random recently released blockbuster games this month they are Xcom, Uncharted 3, and Saints Row 3 later this month.

So yes price wise the PS4 is cheaper without a doubt also spec wise Jack Tretton came out and said it directly at the camera during his Geoff Keighley E3 interview that the PS4 is without a doubt the most powerful game console and if anyone doubts this they can feel free to ask any third-party developer.

 

 

As for more powerful I will have to wait and let the games speak for them selves. I saw both shows and Microsofts games looked way better to me. Remedy seems to think different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rly8s1ZkkL4&list=FLksoyDFtH--Rg7IaTzzU_gw

 

Um.... Really? All we have seen of Quantic Break have been CGI cut scenes that does not prove anything the Xbox 360 CGI wise could make scenes that look better then next gen "gameplay" key there being Gameplay I do not remember seeing any gameplay for any of the next gen X1 exclusives aside from Titan Fall and Killer Instinct most of the games shown at the X1 show were multi-platform.

 

Then form your opinion on what you saw from both Sony and Microsoft.

Well seeing as Titan Fall is the only X1 exclusive I can go off of both the Killzone Shadowfall and Infamous Second Son gameplay looked far better though Titan Fall is a quasi MMO though I can all shoot that down though with a Multiplatform title "In my opinion" The Division was by far the best looking game at E3 and that is an actual full blown MMO and is a multiplatform off all things, though the gameplay shown was being run on the PS4 we have not seen X1 gameplay yet.

Titan Fall isn't even an Xbone exclusive lol... 

 

It will be on Xbox 360, Xbox One, and PC... http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/titanfall-coming-xbox-one-360-pc-2014-6C10261389

For the love of Gawd people, when will you learn...When PS4 or XB1 say "Exclusively on <insert console here>" they are talking for the CONSOLE not "everywhere" For thme, who CARES about the PC because it isnt in their field. Console are consoles PCs and PCs...Out for XB1 and PC but not PS4 = XB1 Exclusive....PC and PS(Vita)(P)(3)4 and not XB? PS exclusive. :)

 

  Drakynn

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Joined: 3/02/08
Posts: 2051

6/16/13 2:24:17 PM#98
Originally posted by Shauneepeak
Originally posted by Milander

Actually Local Gamtstop has it listed at 69.99, guess everything is more expensive in Canada. (shrugs) Still, price is about the same. So the "OMG WHy is it so expensive for XB1?!?!!?" that exploded out when the price was announced, see, it really isnt, you just cant NOT get the kinect :)

As for Sony's "Please stay with us, here take this crappy games free, as long as you give us your moneys!" isn't such a big thing.....M$ is doing it too. :) So really, no the price of the PS4 isnt cheaper without a doubt...As for Jack's quote, I've seen the spec's from AMD (whistles innocently) they can SAY whatever they want, no one is going to waste air calling him on it.

Oh man that really sucks I live 3hrs from the Canadian border =D I don't see why there is still such a  price difference when the the Canadian dollar keeps bouncing back and forth between $0.98-1.05 American.

Also yes Microsoft has just started giving out free games but they all have been around 4 years or so old when Sony actually hands out free games that are as little as a few months old and always has a minim of 18 a month 12 for PS3/PS4 and 6 for Vita and this has been confirmed to continue for next gen during Sony's PS Home E3 PS+ slideshow.

Also yeah I agree the difference is not that big but it is at least 20% and look how much people pay for a 20% increase for a CPU/GPU....

Not to mention by the wording M$ is only doing the free game thing till Xbox One launch whilst the Sony thing is ongoing.Also whilst subjective the list of PS3 titles given away on Sony's service don't seem "Crappy"

Difference in prices is explained by taxes like GST,individual province sales taxes and possibly import duties.

 

  Phry

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Joined: 7/01/04
Posts: 5413

6/16/13 2:24:32 PM#99
Originally posted by Maelzrael

The seems like such a paid advertisement thread.. but I'll play along just in case.

I currently have signed a petition and joined a few facebook pages to Boycott Xbox One.

I have read that Microsoft has sold their privacy rights to the government(Homeland security/NSA) and that the Kinect will need to be hooked up to the "always on" feature in order for your log in to be verified. This could mean that the government would have audio and visual access to a large portion of the countries living rooms. If you take this information and combine it with the information you can find online about our Presidents stance on our privacy, well you've got quite a conspiracy theory to think about anyways..

I also do not agree with shutting down the mom and pop game stores with the inability to trade games.  Gamestop can diaf, but these local shops that sell old consoles and games will eventually have nothing to sell with the cloud system in place. The corporations and the stockholders already make enough money off of us as it is, why do they need to make more?

Xbox one is just the perfect example that with Capitalism, the rich will always get richer at the expense of the less fortunate.

Ps4 on the other hand is doing things the way they should be..atm at least. I dislike Sony quite a bit, but for now, if I do buy a console, it will be a PS4, a Wii U, or nothing.

It is worth mentioning, and although this will probably sound out there and tinfoil hat variety of information.. its nevertheless true, that while Microsoft themselves may not be monitoring the whole kinect thing, any deal with homeland security/Nsa etc is something they would not officially, or unofficially be able to confirm, nor would they be obligated to advise people that their systems may be subject to intercept, quite the reverse under the usual conditions of such organisations.

But even if you ignore that whole can of worms, the PS4 is far more user friendly, at least in terms of games, and isnt that what this is all about, not sure i care about a system that can handle Tv anyway, theres hardly ever anything on worth watching

  Jockan

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OP  6/16/13 2:25:26 PM#100
Originally posted by Kendane

The only game I am disappointed that I can't get without the XBox One is Dead Rising 3, since it sounds like a pretty cool game. But you know, with all the shitty requirements for the new XBox, screw it, I can live without Dead Rising. Besides if XBox One shares a similar fate as the Dreamcast, I can probably get Dead Rising 3 anyways, at the very least on PC. But to be frank, the restrictions on the system are just stupid. All it tells me is Microsoft is greedy and couldn't possibly care less about the gamers even if their lives depended on it, so why bother with it.

I imagine the overall quality of both systems will be just about the same, just like it was for the 360 and PS3, and I just get the benefit of not having DRM, being able to share games, etc with the PS4. To be honest there is no reason whatsoever to get the XBox One unless you really REALLY want to play Dead Rising 3, Titanfall, or maybe Foroza 5. 

Lastly OP, no offense but you kind of sound like you're a Microsoft employee trying to sell the XBox One to us, which if that's the case is actually awesome, please answer our questions so maybe I can find a reason to get one. Just get a mod here to verify it for us and you can do a Q and A, relay some concerns back to Microsoft so the response to things like always having to be online aren't just "LAWLZ DEN GIT A 360 SCRUB!"

 

 

I am just somebody who has an intrest in the system because its going to be different. Forza 5 will be a launch title taking advantage of cloud computing. That's real to me, not reading that sony purchased a cloud server a year ago when I am sure these systems have been in development for the last 5 years. Did they get word that Xbox One will be built around cloud and then they simply are trying to now get in on this?

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