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  MMOExposed

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6/14/13 11:51:29 AM#21
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by MMOExposed
Originally posted by Loktofeit
I think a lot of you really don't enjoy MMOs at all. You seem to enjoy finding fault in them far more fun than playing the games themselves. 

way to play the victim card. developers like yourself just cant admit that you all are simply bad.

once you come to that realization, then, you will finally be able to do something more productive with your efforts and hard work.

But... how do you really feel, MMOExposed? :)

Seriously, though, there are hundreds of MMOs out there. It seems to make more sense to spend time playing the MMOs one enjoys than to use that time to constantly post about how MMOs one doesn't like have failed them. Now, if the contention is that one can't find an MMO they like in a seas of hundreds of choices, it seems it's entirely possible they are just looking in the wrong place for what they want.

Thats because many of us that consume the products actually want to product to be better. Sitting back and not saying anything and letting the game stay in a crappy form, is more damaging.

Usually in most cases, Hyped up MMOs that fail hard, are usually the only games on forums that the community allow public criticism. But What about the other games that had issues.

Rift being one of them. I was a huge fan of this game going into Storm Legion, yet still didnt stop me from holding back criticism.

Go back and look at what Rift was like from the start and compare it to now. Clearly things were changed for a reason, because originally it was bad. Most MMOs start out this way. The earlier Developers can catch these flawed designed the better their chances at success.

But Trion Worlds went backwards instead of forwards with Storm Legion, during this high critical competition point and turned heads.

As others have stated, the Animations for Rift are very poor. This been a common complaint. Same with the Race Choices, seeing as the game actually only has 4 races. 2 of the playable races are clones of the other faction race which is why I leave them out.

The game world is very linear, when compared to World of Warcraft's world in Vanilla which was large, but also felt less pathy then Rift's world does.

Most people didnt like the Level Grind in Vanilla Rift, yet the developers went backwards and increased the level grind in Storm Legion, as well as tagging on more hidden grind with their carnage quest which was very poor way of hiding Grinding, which the original concept behind "Questing" was suppose to do. So that clearly was a poor game design decision.

Conquest was poorly designed and gave the general impression that the developers were lazy in the PvP game design. But on top of that, it was moved from level 50 to 60, basically forcing PvPers to grind levels just to play something they were already playing.

Events again in this game with Rifts arent a decent idea. Same flaw that Warhammer's events had, but repeated. same issue GW2's MetaEvents are having, again repeated. By repeat mistakes instead of building solutions?

 

  User Deleted
6/14/13 11:57:03 AM#22
Well if anyone is looking for an MMO that is currently pretty populated in the lower zones... Rift is your ticket.  Everyone seems to be trying the F2P model out.  So it's almost like release day in terms of activity and players.  Usually the best time to play any MMO... when others are actually starting out right along with you.  Of course that will all die down... but for now... lots of activity... which is a 1000 times more activity than there is in WoW and most other games atm.
  GrayGhost79

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6/14/13 11:59:50 AM#23
Originally posted by tazarconan
Originally posted by Caldrin

go back to wow then...

 

Now i am not a fan of themepark games but Rifts is not too bad and the animations are fine lol.. plus its now freee ..

If u think the animations are fine ,you my friend are in dire need of a pair of glasses . If thats not the case if u want to see what good animation is like go try that stupid game u mentioned in your response. As for me im done with wow over 2 years  now and iant going back there . But as i said in past threads lots of times the crap mmos we witness so far the last years that leaded to this decaying situation YOU my friend ME and lots of players bare a serious ammount of responsibility to this situation of crap products cause we are NOT DEMANDING enough from the developing teams.

If you want good animations go to GW2 because WoW's animations are crap as well. Rifts are a bit better than WoWs but I do agree that Rifts animations are crap. However to me the animations don't overly matter unless it's action oriented combat because that is the only place it makes a difference. Beyond action oriented combat complaining about animations is nothing more than nitpicking. 

  Shadowguy64

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6/14/13 12:02:52 PM#24
Sorry the game wasn't up to your standards OP. Good luck with your next game. Hopefully you'll have a better outcome.
  Torvaldr

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6/14/13 12:09:57 PM#25

I don't think WoW's animations are any better than most other games, Rift, GW2, Tera, and Neverwinter included.  The engine response time is good, as in when I press a skill I don't feel latency between execution and response, but the actual animations themselves are just... there.

What exactly does a high quality WoW animation entail that other games don't?

  Icewhite

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6/14/13 12:57:15 PM#26
Originally posted by Loktofeit
I think a lot of you really don't enjoy MMOs at all. You seem to enjoy finding fault in them far more fun than playing the games themselves. 

Careful there; forum standards only allow two options - universally negative, or "blaming the players".

If not A, then B.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  TheScavenger

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6/14/13 1:03:12 PM#27

The OP does have a point, the animations are rather bad in RIFT. They are worse than LOTRO which I thought was bad in itself...and there is an obvious 1 second delay for an ability to be cast.

 

WoW the animations are very smooth, and on top of that, the game in general is very responsive.

This is one reason WoW saw so much success (out of other reasons)...it was smoothest animations/responsive MMO I'd personally played (and I've played many). At least at the time it was released. But you press the button to do an ability/spell, and it does it right away. There is no 1 second delay to casting it after clicking the button. That is what makes it so smooth.

 

Even then, games like TERA and a bunch of others...they all have that one second delay when casting an ability and it doesn't feel smooth or responsive at all.

 

That is I think pulled many into WoW, again, at least one of the reasons.

 

With that, I haven't touched WoW after Cataclysm and won't go back unless it goes free to play/freemium.

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  Loktofeit

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6/14/13 1:03:48 PM#28
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Loktofeit
I think a lot of you really don't enjoy MMOs at all. You seem to enjoy finding fault in them far more fun than playing the games themselves. 

Careful there; forum standards only allow two options - universally negative, or "blaming the players".

If not A, then B.

Good point. I fell prey to B there. I get a demerit.

  Storman1977

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6/14/13 1:08:11 PM#29


Originally posted by TheScavenger
The OP does have a point, the animations are rather bad in RIFT. They are worse than LOTRO which I thought was bad in itself...and there is an obvious 1 second delay for an ability to be cast.

 

WoW the animations are very smooth, and on top of that, the game in general is very responsive.

This is one reason WoW saw so much success (out of other reasons)...it was smoothest animations/responsive MMO I'd personally played (and I've played many). At least at the time it was released.

 

Even then, games like TERA and a bunch of others...they all have that one second delay when casting an ability and it doesn't feel smooth or responsive at all.

 

That is I think pulled many into WoW, again, at least one of the reasons.

 

With that, I haven't touched WoW after Cataclysm and won't go back unless it goes free to play/freemium.


another thing that made WoW so successful was that it was designed with the lowest common denominator in mind. It was made to run on almost all machines available in 2004 and to have a shallow learning curve. Mass marketing and ease of access can make for a hugely popular game.

  Gorwe

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6/14/13 1:11:17 PM#30
Oi lokto!

What did I do lol? I was just stating my thoughts and that apb guy was the one that was basically saying that we were pimply geeks. Unless you were talking to him(then why quote my post lol?).

  daltanious

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6/15/13 3:02:37 AM#31
Originally posted by Caldrin

go back to wow then...

 

Now i am not a fan of themepark games but Rifts is not too bad and the animations are fine lol.. plus its now freee ..

I'm sure the best part for you is your last word in post. And I'm sure you are willing to work for free for life time for unknown people around the globe. :-)

  tazarconan

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OP  6/15/13 6:44:57 AM#32
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Sorry the game wasn't up to your standards OP. Good luck with your next game. Hopefully you'll have a better outcome.

Its ok,i have to play an mmorpg over 2 years. I play last 2 years Age of wonders 2 shadow magic multiplayer with friends.But i cant deny i miss playing a good mmorpg.Sadly at least for me havent found something that good yet. Waiting Archeage that new mmorpg from Lord Brittish ,Cidatel of Sorcery with the last 2 games will try something different from what we ve seen so far in the genre.

  Hatefull

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6/15/13 7:02:38 AM#33
Originally posted by Storman1977

You know what I'd like. Video of the two games running on the critics machines. With the same equivalent settings (if you're running WoW on ultra, then do the same with Rift/Tera/whatever) Preferably side by side. Just to see how much water their argument holds when having to back up their statements with proof of how the games run on their machines.

Now, if you just don't like the game (or don't want to like the game because of how much you have invested in another game) then just say so. It's ok to like different games. For crying out loud, my favorite MMO(DDO) is a long running joke to most on here.

You said pretty much exactly what I was thinking on this topic.  Basically put your money where your mouth is with this graphics/animations crap.  No one will of course, but it would be funny to see the honest results of this.

Good post.

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  Battlerock

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6/15/13 7:05:41 AM#34
Originally posted by Cetra
Originally posted by Caldrin

go back to wow then...

 

Now i am not a fan of themepark games but Rifts is not too bad and the animations are fine lol.. plus its now freee ..

yes what he said. Come back to wow like me. I rather pay a sub for higher quality mmo.

Exactly

 

The wow hunter vs the rift ranger is an easily decipherable example of how much fluidity means to games. WoW enhances it even more with the amount of control you have over your pets and what your pets look like.

Rift is ok, but if you played WoW --- Rift feels unplayable

  Seelinnikoi

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6/15/13 8:52:01 AM#35
Originally posted by tazarconan

On Rift 's open beta i tried it for a week and after reading many things about the game didnt bought it on launch.

You lost all your credibility right there...

So you say you test a game and yet had to take your decision on opinions written about others?

 

Go back to WoW or any other hole you crawled out from. Thanks

  Issiea

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6/15/13 9:31:41 AM#36

To be fair Rift is somewhat clunky in game play.  It seems to be worse in PvP compared to PvE.

 

That pause thing annoyed me too and I think it was one of the main problems that I decided to not continue playing the game.  I don't recall most of the other games I've played that had this problem.  All of them were fairly fluid.

 

 

  Onomas

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Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

6/15/13 9:35:32 AM#37
I am a sandbox junkie and hate most theme parks today for what mmorpg's have become. That being said, I enjoy and like Rift, im back playing and it has changed so much. Though I do hate the tutorial and wish it could be skipped, it feels so dumbed down now compared to a year ago. But I actualy had fun the last few days, something I can not say about some of the other new aged games. And as I said earlier, that's coming from a sandbox junkie ;)
  User Deleted
6/15/13 9:36:27 AM#38
The only really annoying thing in Rift is that you can't keybind to your mousewheel up/down.  Prefer using the mousewheel for changing targets as opposed to tabbing.  In Rift, selecting/switching targets really fast is crucial especially when there's always a gazillion targets spawning/running around in rifts.
  DavisFlight

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6/15/13 9:40:32 AM#39
Originally posted by Caldrin

go back to wow then...

 

Now i am not a fan of themepark games but Rifts is not too bad and the animations are fine lol.. plus its now freee ..

If you aren't a fan of themeparks you wouldn't like Rift. It's one of the most themeparky, as its a direct clone of the father of themeparks.

  Onomas

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Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

6/15/13 9:44:56 AM#40
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Caldrin

go back to wow then...

 

Now i am not a fan of themepark games but Rifts is not too bad and the animations are fine lol.. plus its now freee ..

If you aren't a fan of themeparks you wouldn't like Rift. It's one of the most themeparky, as its a direct clone of the father of themeparks.

Except for the fact that your so called father of theme parks is a clone of older mmorpg's, and copied so much from them. I still don't know why everyone keeps saying wow clone, when in fact WOW is a clone.

 

And I like rift, and dislike theme parks, so there might be a chance they will like it.

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