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  botrytis

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6/10/13 2:07:13 PM#41
Originally posted by drakaena
Is it perfect? No. Could I do without the modern pop culture logos mixing in my fantasy game? Yeah.
Is it even a full sandbox? No.
But it is a virtual world that players can impact, for good or bad.
I'll take it.

You can have a virtual world like this please take it. I find it very offensive. It is not a fantasy any more.

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  Dihoru

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6/10/13 2:56:24 PM#42
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by drakaena
Is it perfect? No. Could I do without the modern pop culture logos mixing in my fantasy game? Yeah.
Is it even a full sandbox? No.
But it is a virtual world that players can impact, for good or bad.
I'll take it.

You can have a virtual world like this please take it. I find it very offensive. It is not a fantasy any more.

It's not high fantasy. It's a matter of expectations.... for example Firefly's universe mixed cowboys and space operas and no one was moaning about it being offensive, crappy in some people's mind yes but... you're basically telling the devs that their universe isn't "right" when A) it's a blood fictional universe where there are physics defying things and B) it isn't part of an established universe and I will state I am interested to see where this game goes but even if I wasn't I would still tell you the following: Your opinion is just an opinion, it is not a truth and it will never be one, kindly do not tell people what to do with works of fiction you find offensive because that smacks of quite a few bad things none of which I think you truly mean to exhibit.

  Kumapon

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OP  6/10/13 4:58:17 PM#43

Someone's hilarious player house

http://youtu.be/ly65sdnD0VU

  steelwind

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6/10/13 5:39:52 PM#44

My view,

"MMO Community": We're sick of themeparks and want a AAA sandbox with more freedom and the ability to impact the world. TAKE US OFF THE RAILS!

AA is created giving these tools to the player and they use these tools creatively.

"MMO Community": Take it back! Give us our rails back! Devs define our world for us!

This is what comes with a Sandbox. Not everything that players do to the world will appeal to everyone but at the same time taking these tools away will also take sandbox elements away as well. So either accept that not everything will fit into your pre-conceived impressions of a game when it is indeed a sandbox. If you cannot accept this type of freedom and refuse to play a game based on how others are being creative within it, you have no business wanting to play a sandbox game to begin with and are better off sticking to your safe, predictable themepark titles.

  Raven

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"Only the dead have seen the end of war" Plato

6/12/13 6:22:46 AM#45
Originally posted by steelwind

My view,

"MMO Community": We're sick of themeparks and want a AAA sandbox with more freedom and the ability to impact the world. TAKE US OFF THE RAILS!

AA is created giving these tools to the player and they use these tools creatively.

"MMO Community": Take it back! Give us our rails back! Devs define our world for us!

This is what comes with a Sandbox. Not everything that players do to the world will appeal to everyone but at the same time taking these tools away will also take sandbox elements away as well. So either accept that not everything will fit into your pre-conceived impressions of a game when it is indeed a sandbox. If you cannot accept this type of freedom and refuse to play a game based on how others are being creative within it, you have no business wanting to play a sandbox game to begin with and are better off sticking to your safe, predictable themepark titles.

Let me first start by stating I dont have a problem with this feature in AA and I actually want to see it in game.

But there is a fallacy in your argument, it is not as black and white as you make it out to be, sure people want sandbox tools to create their own content, but they want that content to be within the theme of the game, if the game is medieval fantasy then if there is for example a "Create your own spell system" you dont want someone to create a spell that summons a lamborghini gallardo they can drive around.

Mind you there is nothing wrong with having a game that does this, and this fits very well into the mechanics of sandbox games like Minecraft where you have someone building a deathstar next to someone making a lord of the rings inspired city. But in a world where you are expected to be an adventurer in a medieval fantasy setting it does break the immersion if there is all of a sudden a star wars themed city with futuristic textures and coca cola dispensers everywhere.

I dont think anyone would say that the P&P Dungeons and Dragons is not a "sandbox" experience, however there are rules, the game master wont let you summon a lamborghini if you are in trouble in a fight unless the game is built specifically with that rule.

So in conclusion, XLGames is expected to be the "game master" in ArcheAge and are expected to curate the experience and allow people freedom within the universe they have created, so I can understand some people frustration at the fact that you can add things that dont belong in that universe into the game ruining the immersion a little bit.

  Scalpless

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Posts: 1259

6/12/13 6:47:07 AM#46

If this gets in the NA version, I fully expect to see a huge wall "decorated" by an old man's fat ass near a major city. Or worse.

It would be a nice feature if we could somehow get rid of all the idiots playing the game, but as it is, I'd rather not have it. At the very least they should make an on/off switch for it.

  Opapanax

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Posts: 983

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6/12/13 6:54:29 AM#47

As cool as this is and as entertaining it would be to see these types things it wuld need to be regulated out the ass by Trion. There'd would have to be their own system to make sure nothing too filhy or distateful makes it through.

They then could maybe submit some options up for player voting. Another way to make sure things don't get to ridiculous out in the world.

How are these mods handled as far as how long they are left in game. This something that has to be renwed every few months or is it a one time shot it's in game for good type of thing?

This could be really ineteresting to play with for the more creative types, but man abuse is abuse and the system will be abused. Developers should just assume they can't trust us gamers and regulate enough to make sure it doesn't have too many issues.

PM before you report at least or you could just block.

  GwapoJosh

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6/12/13 6:55:14 AM#48
Originally posted by tkreep

does that mean i can run around looking like batman, thats awsome!

who wants to make a guild called Justice League

Sure! But I get to be batman ;)   You can be my odd little sidekick.

 

Edit:  And on a serious note.  There is no way this feature will be in the NA version of this game.  Us Americans are offended by everything and Trion can't check every pic before it's put in game by a player.

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  GranDux

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6/14/13 3:29:01 PM#49

Lovely.

Too bad the tools will probably be restricted. America mainstream can't handle original games, and someone somewhere out there will be offended at a drunken barney picture or red district and whine the feature out the game. More rules and less fun, America is still in diapers when it comes to fun and play.

  DarthRaiden

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i make art,
till someone dies.

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6/14/13 6:38:11 PM#50

uhm get mature folks..this reminds of people looking at others on the street and then:

"Look , look"

"these one here has no taste on apeal, lets call the police and show him"

"police police where is the police ? this man here has no real taste", "we supposed to live in conformistic way", "dont allow that freak to ruin the taste of majority"

i am at least happy on a MMORPG that gives freedom and choices ...and i will certainly sure LMAO at many "creative" things brought us by some freaks ..but i am not want to not allow it..

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  Tierless

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joie de vivre

6/16/13 12:34:53 AM#51

I hope they have an RP server that doesn't allow this.

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  MindTrigger

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6/16/13 12:53:10 AM#52

Weird, I didn't know about any of this.  It's a lot like Second Life with those tools available.  Second Life isn't a game though, it's much more like a 3D WWW or "America Online" type thing.

It can be interesting, but I'm not sure Western gamers want this stuff in their games.  This also explains the cars everyone was talking about a few weeks ago.  The Asian version seems very "anything goes".

 

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  wizyy

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6/16/13 5:08:56 AM#53

Well, I expected this to happen way back when I read that you could import any picture on a tabard and ship's sail...

I like to have a laugh as anyone, but we will see obscenities and whatnot at every corner if this tool get OKayed in western version.

Some people will enjoy this freedom but ArcheAge will be ridiculed by most, imho.

 

These shenanigans may attract people from the infamous GOON Squad, though, and when you add the world PvP (ganking), they may come in numbers to AA.

  Zyromkiru

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6/16/13 5:33:02 AM#54
As cool as this feature is I see many problems with it and I'm sure trion will probably tweak it or not put this in the game. I know that  a lot of people will be putting up images that trion won't approve of.
  Ngeldu5t

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6/16/13 7:28:18 AM#55
I really hope they put restrictions and doesn't allow this to happen on the western version.I like the world of AA and  do not want to see it spoil with IRL pictures.

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  superscott99

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6/16/13 8:24:31 AM#56
Predict it will NOT be included in NA release. Irresponsibilty runs rampant over here, especially on the internet, and a freedom like this would be abused. Sad though, it's probably one of the better tools I've ever seen in a sandbox.
  coretex666

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6/16/13 8:43:16 AM#57
Originally posted by superscott99
Predict it will NOT be included in NA release. Irresponsibilty runs rampant over here, especially on the internet, and a freedom like this would be abused. Sad though, it's probably one of the better tools I've ever seen in a sandbox.

I agree it is a nice feature in a way, but I think it cannot be put in players's hands. You do not log in a fantasy world to see the same commercials and plenty of other stuff you are annoyed with IRL.

 

Currently playing: L2 Chronicle 4

  Treekodar

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6/16/13 8:50:02 AM#58
Originally posted by coretex666
Originally posted by superscott99
Predict it will NOT be included in NA release. Irresponsibilty runs rampant over here, especially on the internet, and a freedom like this would be abused. Sad though, it's probably one of the better tools I've ever seen in a sandbox.

I agree it is a nice feature in a way, but I think it cannot be put in players's hands. You do not log in a fantasy world to see the same commercials and plenty of other stuff you are annoyed with IRL.

 

Then destroy it?

Eleanor Rigby.

  RollieJoe

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6/16/13 8:54:15 AM#59

There is absolutely no chance, none, 0% that this feature or anything like it will make it into Trion's AA, or any major Western MMO.   Western players and especially US ones simply aren't mature enough by and large to be able to handle other people's preferences.  Also Western/US laws would never allow this feature to exist without massive oversight by Trion, costing them thousands of man-hours.

 

It is interesting to read about how this is being used in the Korean version, but again, for better or worse, this will not, under any circumstances, be in Trion's version.

  coretex666

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6/16/13 8:55:29 AM#60
Originally posted by Treekodar
Originally posted by coretex666
Originally posted by superscott99
Predict it will NOT be included in NA release. Irresponsibilty runs rampant over here, especially on the internet, and a freedom like this would be abused. Sad though, it's probably one of the better tools I've ever seen in a sandbox.

I agree it is a nice feature in a way, but I think it cannot be put in players's hands. You do not log in a fantasy world to see the same commercials and plenty of other stuff you are annoyed with IRL.

 

Then destroy it?

I am not sure you can destroy everything everywhere in the game.

It would be a full time job destroying this stuff anyway.

I think RL commercials have no place in fantasy MMOs. Having Haris Pilton NPC in your game is one thing, but having vending machines and commercials all over the place is too much, imo.

Currently playing: L2 Chronicle 4

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