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  Taranx

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Joined: 7/26/03
Posts: 153

6/03/13 3:38:42 PM#21
Originally posted by Gorwe

In the genre plagued by uncreative games and by the drive to clone WoW's success, I am looking for good and creative games.

What an oxymoron!

I just can't stand tab target, bland quests, Dungeon grinds, reputation grinds, shallow stories, WoW combat, WoW animations, stand to cast, focus on the endgame, gameworld so bland that players have to bring it to life with an actual Heavy RP, "crafting", ... I mean this has got to end at some point or the other. We've sacrificed Conan, Warhammer, Star Trek, Star Wars, The Elder Scrolls(soon), DnD(Neverwinter- it should've been NWN 3!), LoTR(almost forgot this one lol!)... WHERE DOES THIS STOP???

I agree that we are seeing movement towards both sandboxes and hybrids, but currently we are in the gutter with all the shits, excrements and stuff. Woe be upon this genre...

(I think I'll play TSW+singleplayers until these suits{whose ties are so tight around their necks that they can't think-not enough O2} wake up and realise that you CAN'T REPLICATE WoW's success! Hell, even Blizz can't replicate that "perfect storm", let alone others.)

Is this a good idea? Is anyone else tired of current "MMOs"?

I want MMORPGs back, damn it!!!

Might need a time machine then to go back to the days when we were in AWE of the new Genre. I think it will be a while before that happens again. I remember the first time I played Doom and was "OMG this is so cool!". Or even RTS Warcraft. However how much further have they really come since the originals?

Problem is today the available hard core audience. Kids who are used to not needing to think too hard, they don't need to remember phone numbers, how to get from A-B without Iphone GPS, don't need to plan ahead very far as they can just use texting on a whim etc. The large demand is from them and they have different expectations. I mean really, NWN's? I enjoyed it and feel like I finished it. I just followed the fairy dust from beginning to end

  mikuniman

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Joined: 8/28/06
Posts: 277

6/03/13 3:40:16 PM#22
I think for the many people who post these topics must be tired of mmos in general. Thinking back 10 yrs ago there few mmo choices so you stuck with 1 mmo for the most part. Today with so many choices and lack of subs play style differs where you could play many. I know I've gotten some decent millage out of allot of titles from Coldogs list. OP and the like take a break play some fps or rpgs
  rodingo

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Joined: 1/18/07
Posts: 1716

6/03/13 3:45:39 PM#23
Originally posted by darthbuh

I want carburetors back.

Some things just aren't going to happen.

Most here probably don't know what a carburetor is, much less what it does.

"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor

  Johnie-Marz

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Joined: 11/19/09
Posts: 860

6/03/13 3:46:14 PM#24
Originally posted by mikuniman
I think for the many people who post these topics must be tired of mmos in general. Thinking back 10 yrs ago there few mmo choices so you stuck with 1 mmo for the most part. Today with so many choices and lack of subs play style differs where you could play many. I know I've gotten some decent millage out of allot of titles from Coldogs list. OP and the like take a break play some fps or rpgs

I have to agree, People complain about "WoW clones"  but when you mention games that are different from WoW,  they claim they suck.

So if WoW and Wow clones suck and games that are not WoW clones suck... then you might as well just quit MMO's all together because that is all there is.

As for me, I make no claims that WoW is the best MMO in the universe. I simply played it because it was fun. When it stopped being fun, I quit. If I miss it I'll go back. I'll do the same for any MMO to be honest.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 19498

6/03/13 3:46:37 PM#25
Originally posted by WhiteLantern
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

Star Trek Online is a WOW clone now? what?

And people look at me all crazy when i say Wildstar looks like WOW.

Well, you do have a character. And a storyline happening around you. And levels. And equipment. And ......

 

 

You mean it is a Pool of the Radiance clone?

Or a mario clone?

Or a donkey kong clone?

Does pong has a story line?

  mikuniman

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/28/06
Posts: 277

6/03/13 3:48:40 PM#26
Originally posted by rodingo
Originally posted by darthbuh

I want carburetors back.

Some things just aren't going to happen.

Most here probably don't know what a carburetor is, much less what it does.

you can bet I do

  nerovipus32

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/15/11
Posts: 2716

6/03/13 3:49:09 PM#27
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04

Don't play them. Play one of the games that's not like WoW. Here are a few:

EVE

Darkfall

Planetside 2

Perpetuum

Fallen Earth

Ryzom

Anarchy Online

Lineage 2

Vindictus

Guild Wars

Age of Wushu

Ultima Online

Wizard 101

Asheron's Call 1/2

Xsyon

Wurm

Champions Online

APB: Reloaded

Vendetta Online

Pirates of the Burning Sea

Mortal Online

Dofus

Wakfu

What a terrible choice.

Well, yeah. If you don't like sandboxes and interesting game mechanics.

Most of those games aren't even sandboxes

And a lot of them are. I'm not sure what your point is. Is it that you don't like any of those games? Because you can always play something more similar to WoW or move out of the genre if they don't spark your interest.

I like some of those games but most aren't sandboxes including your baby darkfall. darkfall is ffa pvp, that does not equal a sandbox.

  Johnie-Marz

Novice Member

Joined: 11/19/09
Posts: 860

6/03/13 3:49:30 PM#28
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by WhiteLantern
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

Star Trek Online is a WOW clone now? what?

And people look at me all crazy when i say Wildstar looks like WOW.

Well, you do have a character. And a storyline happening around you. And levels. And equipment. And ......

 

 

You mean it is a Pool of the Radiance clone?

Or a mario clone?

Or a donkey kong clone?

Does pong has a story line?

Good point, most of what we play can be traced back topen and paper DnD; and DnD can be traced back to Tolkien and LoTR's; And lord of the rings could be traced back to mythology.

I blame the GREEKS!!!

  BeansnBread

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 5547

6/03/13 3:53:11 PM#29
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04

Don't play them. Play one of the games that's not like WoW. Here are a few:

EVE

Darkfall

Planetside 2

Perpetuum

Fallen Earth

Ryzom

Anarchy Online

Lineage 2

Vindictus

Guild Wars

Age of Wushu

Ultima Online

Wizard 101

Asheron's Call 1/2

Xsyon

Wurm

Champions Online

APB: Reloaded

Vendetta Online

Pirates of the Burning Sea

Mortal Online

Dofus

Wakfu

What a terrible choice.

Well, yeah. If you don't like sandboxes and interesting game mechanics.

Most of those games aren't even sandboxes

And a lot of them are. I'm not sure what your point is. Is it that you don't like any of those games? Because you can always play something more similar to WoW or move out of the genre if they don't spark your interest.

I like some of those games but most aren't sandboxes including your baby darkfall. darkfall is ffa pvp, that does not equal a sandbox.

Yeah, most aren't. But this many are:

EVE

Darkfall (I still consider it more sandboxy because you can build and destroy thing that are persistent in it. You can disagree, that's fine. Just pretend it isn't on the list).

Perpetuum

Ryzom

Age of Wushu

Xsyon

Wurm

Mortal

Pirates of the Burning Sea

 

I don't even play Darkfall btw. I have no clue why you thought it was my baby. Actually, I still have no clue what you are getting at.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  MindTrigger

Advanced Member

Joined: 12/19/07
Posts: 2628

6/03/13 3:54:41 PM#30

OP, you will just have to sit back and wait like the rest of us.  There are plenty of interesting hybrids and sandbox games coming out this year and over the next couple years.  Summer brings the most boring part of the year for those of us following games.  Hopefully we will hear some neat things out of E3 soon to get us stoked, but right now it's still just a waiting game. I'm also looking forward to hearing about EQ Next at SOE Live this Summer.

All those recent kickstarters are in early development, and we won't see any of them in full swing until 2015, unfortunately. Here's to hoping someone pulls a great game off this Fall.

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  McSire

Novice Member

Joined: 5/27/13
Posts: 45

6/03/13 3:54:55 PM#31
The Elder Scrolls Online isn't even out yet, in fact not even out of closed beta and you're placing it in the "Soon to be a failed WoW clone" section? Another generic and pathetic "pretty much every MMO sucks and is boring" thread.

  Dwarfman420

Novice Member

Joined: 6/29/07
Posts: 209

Someone set us up the bomb

6/03/13 3:56:37 PM#32
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04

Don't play them. Play one of the games that's not like WoW. Here are a few:

EVE

Darkfall

Planetside 2

Perpetuum

Fallen Earth

Ryzom

Anarchy Online

Lineage 2

Vindictus

Guild Wars

Age of Wushu

Ultima Online

Wizard 101

Asheron's Call 1/2

Xsyon

Wurm

Champions Online

APB: Reloaded

Vendetta Online

Pirates of the Burning Sea

Mortal Online

Dofus

Wakfu

What a terrible choice.

Well, yeah. If you don't like sandboxes and interesting game mechanics.

Most of those games aren't even sandboxes

And a lot of them are. I'm not sure what your point is. Is it that you don't like any of those games? Because you can always play something more similar to WoW or move out of the genre if they don't spark your interest.

I like some of those games but most aren't sandboxes including your baby darkfall. darkfall is ffa pvp, that does not equal a sandbox.

ffa pvp is not what defines a sandbox. If it did, Vangaurd Saga of heroes would have been a sandbox till they dropped their pvp server.

No levels but skills

Open world as opposed to level zones

End Game is not raiding or achievements

Those 3 to me spell sandbox

* I am talking original Darkfall, not the new hyrbid Darkfall

 

  Icewhite

Made History

Joined: 7/11/11
Posts: 6495

Pink, it's like red but not quite.

6/03/13 3:59:39 PM#33
Originally posted by darthbuh

I want carburetors back.

Some things just aren't going to happen.

Waiting for Nelson Eddy & Jeannette MacDonald to return to the top of the charts.

Oh...wait...they are both dead, that could be a problem.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  superconducting

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/21/13
Posts: 703

6/03/13 4:00:12 PM#34

Well, you won't see anyone here disagreeing with you.... We are all SICK and tired of WOW clones

 

But for all our sake, I really hope you're wrong on ESO-- if that bombs I will have truly lost all hope for MMOs.

  deveilblad

Novice Member

Joined: 4/25/13
Posts: 149

6/03/13 4:01:29 PM#35
I find it funny the OP says he is tired of boring leveling bland quests and focus on endgame and he says he will stick with TSW until something else comes ? TSW is not original ... You level skills instead of levels thats about it... Heavy endgame focus boring quests really easy dungeons... All your post doesnt make any sense when you talk about TsW after...
  Doogiehowser

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Joined: 3/14/12
Posts: 1939

6/03/13 4:01:36 PM#36
Originally posted by superconducting

Well, you won't see anyone here disagreeing with you.... We are all SICK and tired of WOW clones

 

But for all our sake, I really hope you're wrong on ESO-- if that bombs I will have truly lost all hope for MMOs.

 

I already disagreed and so did others.

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  Johnie-Marz

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Posts: 860

6/03/13 4:04:18 PM#37
Originally posted by Dwarfman420
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04

Don't play them. Play one of the games that's not like WoW. Here are a few:

EVE

Darkfall

Planetside 2

Perpetuum

Fallen Earth

Ryzom

Anarchy Online

Lineage 2

Vindictus

Guild Wars

Age of Wushu

Ultima Online

Wizard 101

Asheron's Call 1/2

Xsyon

Wurm

Champions Online

APB: Reloaded

Vendetta Online

Pirates of the Burning Sea

Mortal Online

Dofus

Wakfu

What a terrible choice.

Well, yeah. If you don't like sandboxes and interesting game mechanics.

Most of those games aren't even sandboxes

And a lot of them are. I'm not sure what your point is. Is it that you don't like any of those games? Because you can always play something more similar to WoW or move out of the genre if they don't spark your interest.

I like some of those games but most aren't sandboxes including your baby darkfall. darkfall is ffa pvp, that does not equal a sandbox.

ffa pvp is not what defines a sandbox. If it did, Vangaurd Saga of heroes would have been a sandbox till they dropped their pvp server.

No levels but skills

Open world as opposed to level zones

End Game is not raiding or achievements

Those 3 to me spell sandbox

 

The problem is, no two people who champion sandboxes can seem to agree on what a sandbox is. Therefore no game is a sandbox.

However, a game doesn't have to be a Sandbox in order to break away from the MMO trends of the last five or six years. Just be different or unique in a specific way. Whether it is setting or combat or the way you do quests.

There are games that have broken from the "WoW Clone" mode but it seems that the loudest complainers against WoW clones don't want to play them either. 

  ThaneUlfgar

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Joined: 4/14/11
Posts: 288

6/03/13 4:04:29 PM#38
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by colddog04

Don't play them. Play one of the games that's not like WoW. Here are a few:

EVE

Darkfall

Planetside 2

Perpetuum

Fallen Earth

Ryzom

Anarchy Online

Lineage 2

Vindictus

Guild Wars

Age of Wushu

Ultima Online

Wizard 101

Asheron's Call 1/2

Xsyon

Wurm

Champions Online

APB: Reloaded

Vendetta Online

Pirates of the Burning Sea

Mortal Online

Dofus

Wakfu

What a terrible choice.

Well, yeah. If you don't like sandboxes and interesting game mechanics.

Most of those games aren't even sandboxes

And a lot of them are. I'm not sure what your point is. Is it that you don't like any of those games? Because you can always play something more similar to WoW or move out of the genre if they don't spark your interest.

I like some of those games but most aren't sandboxes including your baby darkfall. darkfall is ffa pvp, that does not equal a sandbox.

 Replace metal with Rpgs:

  Johnie-Marz

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6/03/13 4:07:31 PM#39
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by superconducting

Well, you won't see anyone here disagreeing with you.... We are all SICK and tired of WOW clones

 

But for all our sake, I really hope you're wrong on ESO-- if that bombs I will have truly lost all hope for MMOs.

 

I already disagreed and so did others.

I don't agree about ESO. If it fails, it was because the Developers turned away from what made The Elders Scroll unique in favor of the Same old Same old.

If it fails it means MMO consumers are tired of the same and want something different. That is a good thing.

  mikuniman

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6/03/13 4:09:00 PM#40
Myself, I don't wait or believe in an upcoming holy grail mmo. I just hope it entertains me and I got what I think was my money's worth. High expectations is what game titles want you to feel. Since you basically rent it anyway when it gets old you move on. Remember you stop liking it not the other way around. When a court jester stops entertaining his king, off with his head.
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