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  Opapanax

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6/12/13 11:32:36 AM#21

My only piece of information I have to offer is going Hardcore mode as soon as you are willing and able. It ups the enjoyment of the game a good sum and the AH there is a lot less inflated than the Softcore AH. Since when you die in Hardcore all the items high-end, legends, rares etc all go poof with you.

It lends you into finding more suitable people to play with also, since there are those douches out there that think that PvP'ing is inviting some dude on your friend list into a game where you've set up a death trap in the starting town to have them dead before they even fully load into game.

The servers have gotten better in stability there are still stories of people losing their hardcore toons because of D/C's and game freezes but really I think it's worth the go with Hardcore Mode since you do get a much larget thrill when completeing the difficulty levels.

I'd suggest starting off in Softcore Mode of play getting comfortable with a class and or build and then taking your talents to Hardocre for your utlimate decision on playing Diablo 3.

As far as classes I like Witch Doctor and the Demon Hunter. Demon Hunters can be really squishy so you'll want to be decent with them for hardcore. Witch Doctors can be a bit more forgiving with the pets and they also have a passive that grants a Save-Ur-Ass mechanic that procs on near death (Well technically death is gives you a second life with minimal HP)

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  nariusseldon

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6/12/13 12:09:04 PM#22
Originally posted by Opapanax

My only piece of information I have to offer is going Hardcore mode as soon as you are willing and able. It ups the enjoyment of the game a good sum and the AH there is a lot less inflated than the Softcore AH. Since when you die in Hardcore all the items high-end, legends, rares etc all go poof with you.

I think is the opposite. Prices in softcore AH has been crashing for a long time, because every single piece of rare ever found in game is still in the market.

Unless you are talking about the ultra high end stuff (like 6cc mempo), everything, including entry, or even mid-range legendaries, are dirt cheap.

Secondly, not everyone is suitable for hard core. I don't play HC because i want to experiment with builds, and push what i can do. Currently i am farming MP9 and i die from time to time. I can farm MP8 or even 7 a lot safer ... but i like the challenge.

I also try out new builds (or variations) from time to time. It is very hard to do so in HC mode.

 

  Opapanax

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6/12/13 4:41:53 PM#23
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Opapanax

My only piece of information I have to offer is going Hardcore mode as soon as you are willing and able. It ups the enjoyment of the game a good sum and the AH there is a lot less inflated than the Softcore AH. Since when you die in Hardcore all the items high-end, legends, rares etc all go poof with you.

I think is the opposite. Prices in softcore AH has been crashing for a long time, because every single piece of rare ever found in game is still in the market.

Unless you are talking about the ultra high end stuff (like 6cc mempo), everything, including entry, or even mid-range legendaries, are dirt cheap.

Secondly, not everyone is suitable for hard core. I don't play HC because i want to experiment with builds, and push what i can do. Currently i am farming MP9 and i die from time to time. I can farm MP8 or even 7 a lot safer ... but i like the challenge.

I also try out new builds (or variations) from time to time. It is very hard to do so in HC mode.

 

Yea I'm not all tied up in the AH tend to stay away from it for the most part and when I do get stuff it is normally the cheap but good stuff indeed.

Also yea playing around with builds in Hardcore probably isn't your best choice LoL.. I remember switching one or two skills out in HC to see how some skills would synergize and ended up getting owned because when I needed to do my OH SHIt manuver I didn't have my build right.

You can lose your HC in a flash if you don't stay on your P's and Q's.

PM before you report at least or you could just block.

  sportsfan

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6/17/13 4:38:28 AM#24
Originally posted by BrownAle

Just for the record, I have never seen any community whine and cry about anything as much as the RMAH.

For a system that is 100% optional, and in a game where you are not in direct competition with anyone, ever (well I guess brawling but that's not even the point of the game) I have never seen so much hate placed on a game system before.

Its like the community forgets how popular the D2 3rd party RMAH sites were and pretends that the RMAH being in game is game breaking yet pretends D2 was just fine with a 3rd party site that did the same...its ridiculous.

 

Oh and a heads up, if the idea of beating the game several times over so you can farm the same stuff over and over for the potential of getting loot sounds like grind and boring don't bother with this or any ARPG game.

Advantage that D3 has over the rest is the combat is fast, high in action, and looks crazy.  If you don't like the combat and generally speaking find it entertaining and fun to watch then you might want to try other games that have more of a slow combat that's based more off choices you make that are somewhat irreversible.

Game is under rated (community wise) based of a shitty launch, and endgame that was too hard for most (now fixed) and the fact that they have a RMAH in game and its always online (two huge non-factors that were made out to be game breaking)

 

Combat and gameplay are top notch and imo the largest factor in an ARPG.

Plus 1. Diablo 3 as it stands is the MOST underrated game in the history of on line gaming.

In its genre as a casual on line game it simply is dynamite. Both in speed of combat, always groups avaibalable, choice of hardcore play or softcore, easy mode, choices of difficulty (MP 0-10 !), choice of buying things to save a life time ... etc...

If they EVER include a kind of arena play, I think it offers all what current on line CASUAL games need to have.

In the meantime I play hardcore with the goal of defeating Diablo in Inferno with ALL classes available. Good for 1000+ hours of playing time.

You might wonder what's the reason of this "hating". Several things I guess: WOW players who think they are playing an MMORPG with an ever growing end game (NOT the goal) or old Diablo 2 players who simply wanted an 1-1 translation with upped graphics (NOT the goal) and don't neglect the ex WOW players who now want to destroy Blizzard for even inventing PC play and are in an uncontrolled stalking period of their lives against an ex love.

D3 is a great game and it gets better with every patch.

 

 

  emperorwings

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6/17/13 4:47:43 AM#25
Gameplay wise it's Diablo. Wizard and Demon hunter are the easiest classes to play. Last I played the stats were less customizable and it had poor itemization. but gameplay wise it's exactly what you'd expect from a Diablo game. I miss my aoe poison arrow necro from D2.

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  nariusseldon

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6/17/13 3:09:05 PM#26
Originally posted by sportsfan

 

D3 is a great game and it gets better with every patch.

 

 

And probably even better with the new expansion. D2 does not get to the "god game" status until Lord of Destruction either.

 

  nariusseldon

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6/17/13 3:12:14 PM#27
Originally posted by emperorwings
Gameplay wise it's Diablo. Wizard and Demon hunter are the easiest classes to play. Last I played the stats were less customizable and it had poor itemization. but gameplay wise it's exactly what you'd expect from a Diablo game. I miss my aoe poison arrow necro from D2.

Personally i think D3 is much better than D2 in terms of build experimentation.

D3 is less about stat allocation, but skill synergies.

I play a Wiz. Just a wiz has many viable builds. Granted there are two dominent (CM/WW and archon) but many are viable (Meteor, blade, even sleet storm, and arcane dead blossom). It is easy to find discussions (official and unofficial forum, and demonstration (youtube) of builds.

 

 

  Shadowguy64

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6/18/13 2:26:58 PM#28

I still haven't put a lot of time into Hardcore mode. I love the idea of it but then I think of all that time being taken away in an instant *POOF* and being left with nothing.

 

It makes the game fun with the danger factor, but that is a lot of time to lose...ack!!

  nariusseldon

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6/19/13 12:55:25 PM#29
Originally posted by Shadowguy64

I still haven't put a lot of time into Hardcore mode. I love the idea of it but then I think of all that time being taken away in an instant *POOF* and being left with nothing.

 

It makes the game fun with the danger factor, but that is a lot of time to lose...ack!!

That is why while i support the hard core option, i don't play it myself.

I would much rather challenge myself by seeing how much MP i can push .. then trying to play it safe. And you don't really get to experiment with builds until L60 .. and by that time, losing the toon is a lot of pain.

  Shadowguy64

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6/19/13 1:42:33 PM#30

Too bad they don't have a "medium-core" where, instead of losing your character to perma-death, you lose everything you are wearing and carrying.

 

That way your lvl 60 Barb won't have to slog through Normal and Nightmare again, but he'd better hope he has some gear saved in his shared stash.

 

Sure it's not as hardcore as...hardcore mode, but it still has SOME risk to make it interesting.

  nariusseldon

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6/21/13 10:16:12 AM#31
Originally posted by Shadowguy64

Too bad they don't have a "medium-core" where, instead of losing your character to perma-death, you lose everything you are wearing and carrying.

 

That way your lvl 60 Barb won't have to slog through Normal and Nightmare again, but he'd better hope he has some gear saved in his shared stash.

 

Sure it's not as hardcore as...hardcore mode, but it still has SOME risk to make it interesting.

I agree.

And they do need some way of taking items out of the system (i heard about ideas like let you improve on an affix, then make the item account bound), otherwise items become less and less valuable.

Hence the prices of everything, except the top end 1 in a billion item, crashed.

  Opapanax

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6/21/13 10:35:56 AM#32
Originally posted by Shadowguy64

I still haven't put a lot of time into Hardcore mode. I love the idea of it but then I think of all that time being taken away in an instant *POOF* and being left with nothing.

 

It makes the game fun with the danger factor, but that is a lot of time to lose...ack!!

Yea it's a real bitch losing your toon in HC. Mostly when you feel it could've been avoided, I've lost two level 60 toons, and although it "hurt" I wasn't completely swayed away from giving it another go.

Most times its good to take a break after losing a higher level toon in HC. So that your nerves settles and you can get the motivation to push back through into Inferno again.

I'm working my way back up to 60 now. Think my new Demon Hunter is Level 51, I'll hit level 60 and then try and focus on getting my gear where I want so that I can tackle the later stages of Inferno difficulty again. I got past Belilal on my last run which should damn near be a coast to the end since he's like the one boss that most people know can end their dreams in a flash.

The bigger dangers are the Elite mobs and the affix's the come with. Some make for some really, nasty, nasty combos indeed.

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  Opapanax

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6/21/13 10:36:59 AM#33
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by sportsfan

 

D3 is a great game and it gets better with every patch.

 

 

And probably even better with the new expansion. D2 does not get to the "god game" status until Lord of Destruction either.

 

 Lord of Destruction was the piece that made Diablo 2 a masterpiece..

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  Fdzzaigl

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6/21/13 10:39:21 AM#34

I liked Wizard a lot more than anything else that I played.

It had a good balance of damage and survivability for me.

  nariusseldon

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6/24/13 1:30:27 PM#35
Originally posted by Opapanax

The bigger dangers are the Elite mobs and the affix's the come with. Some make for some really, nasty, nasty combos indeed.

That is why i don't play HC. Unless you go for really low MP (and over-gearing the encounter), there are combo of affixes that are just impossible to beat (although the combo depends on the class).

In general, a combo of cage, arcane sentry, vortex ... can be very deadly and kill you in seconds .. with zero recourse.

But that is also the fun of the game .. there is always a potential challenge just around the next corner.

  nariusseldon

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6/24/13 1:31:16 PM#36
Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

I liked Wizard a lot more than anything else that I played.

It had a good balance of damage and survivability for me.

I also play a wiz as my main .. hybrid archon mainly.

What do you play? CM or one of the less standard builds?

  ElderRat

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6/24/13 1:34:21 PM#37
I like witch doctor and monk.

Currently bored with MMO's.

  Shadowguy64

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6/25/13 12:17:43 PM#38
Originally posted by ElderRat
I like witch doctor and monk.

 

I leveling my WD right now I'm lvl 52 in Hell mode and, thus far, my WD is also currently my furthest hardcore character (only Act 2 of normal...level 17...heh)

 

  nariusseldon

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6/25/13 8:39:20 PM#39
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by ElderRat
I like witch doctor and monk.

 

I leveling my WD right now I'm lvl 52 in Hell mode and, thus far, my WD is also currently my furthest hardcore character (only Act 2 of normal...level 17...heh)

 

How do you like your WD so far? I have a baby L60 WD .. and i find the most fun build to try is a zero-dog build. It is really cool to use them as homing missiles.

 

  Shadowguy64

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6/25/13 8:45:21 PM#40
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Shadowguy64
Originally posted by ElderRat
I like witch doctor and monk.

 

I leveling my WD right now I'm lvl 52 in Hell mode and, thus far, my WD is also currently my furthest hardcore character (only Act 2 of normal...level 17...heh)

 

How do you like your WD so far? I have a baby L60 WD .. and i find the most fun build to try is a zero-dog build. It is really cool to use them as homing missiles. 

 

Well, I've been playing my WD like I would a Hunter in an MMO. My four dogs and Gargantuan do my tanking and my WD moves around and DPS's from range with Poison darts and acid rain. 

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